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Zabi
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 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: Requesting: A link to the sub of episode one of Stream |
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| A bit late (It has been almost a year since WPP released then denied it) but I'm now showing my family the raws and it would be easier to show a sub instead of explaining what is going on even if it is for just one episode. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't know WPP made a sub for Stream...
And this brings up an interesting question I've had regarding them and subbing in general:
I realize that EXE has been licensed up to Axess, so it's been hard to sub legally. However, Stream is up in the air, and Beast has only been out recently. And for some series (such as Naruto), people are still subbing them regardless of licensing issues. My question is: since there is still a demand for EXE subs, why aren't any groups taking up the torch and subbing? WPP is taking their sweet time doing...nothing it seems.
I would certainly like to have the rest of subbed Axess, and subs of Stream and Beast.
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Zabi
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Aether wrote: | | I didn't know WPP made a sub for Stream... |
They took the episode down soon after it was put up and then denied it ever existed. I have no idea why. I'm on 56k (high speed internet does not exist where I live) so I had no chance at getting it in time.
| Aether wrote: | And this brings up an interesting question I've had regarding them and subbing in general:
I realize that EXE has been licensed up to Axess, so it's been hard to sub legally. However, Stream is up in the air, and Beast has only been out recently. And for some series (such as Naruto), people are still subbing them regardless of licensing issues. My question is: since there is still a demand for EXE subs, why aren't any groups taking up the torch and subbing? WPP is taking their sweet time doing...nothing it seems. |
Other groups don't seem to care about Rockman EXE. Most of the Rockman EXE fans I see at forums act like they can speak japanese anyway.
| Aether wrote: | | I would certainly like to have the rest of subbed Axess, and subs of Stream and Beast. |
Same here but the anime being released in english (not by fans) uncut would be even better. Life isn't fair. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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What if they can actually speak Japanese? Never thought about that, did you?
Anyway, apparently subbing Rockman EXE at WPP is hard because many people are reluctant, or something. I forget Izumi's actual wording, but I think it's bevcause they're getting short on staff willing to sub it.
The Stream sub was an April Fool's Joke, anyway.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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The sub actually exists, but the staff at WPP denies the release as a joke.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I have the sub,if you guys would like I could upload it to Megaupload? :] |
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Zabi
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Proto wrote: | | I have the sub,if you guys would like I could upload it to Megaupload? :] |
Megaupload sux. It always gives me "download complete" when the file is nowhere near finished. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Okay. I realize that being outside the community, most people do not understand the nuances of digital fansubbing, and I don't mind explaining it to those who are interested, with some logic and insight into what we call "fansubbing politics".
| Aether wrote: | | And for some series (such as Naruto), people are still subbing them regardless of licensing issues. |
Apples and oranges. Naruto has a HUGE fan base and was being subbed by a dozen or more groups before the license was announced, not to mention they were over 100 episodes into the series at that time. You may notice that "reputable" groups (as far as I know, but don't quote me there because I'm not a Naruto fan) did not continue to sub it, for the reasons I'll list in the next answer, but rather many "narutard" groups appeared out of nowhere and picked up at whichever episode they pleased - either that or the reputable group worked "underground".
You can count the number of fansub groups that have worked on the EXE series with one hand, and there was exactly one group (or one amalgamation of a group) working on it when the license was announced. Yes, EXE certainly does have a fanbase...but the number of fansubbers in that fanbase is very small, and the number of Japanese speakers to do translation is even smaller.
| Aether wrote: | | My question is: since there is still a demand for EXE subs, why aren't any groups taking up the torch and subbing? WPP is taking their sweet time doing...nothing it seems. |
Thus, I'll happily tell you why no groups are "taking up the torch", as you put it:
Doing a licensed series is a blacklisting in the fansubbing community. You can't distribute on some of the more popular IRC servers (e.g. EnterTheGame), can't list your releases on animesuki.com or envirosphere, and are generally made fun of/looked down upon by the "legit" groups. No established fansub group wants to tarnish their reputation by continuing a licensed series, much less taking up one that has been long licensed. And there is no doubt, from some peoples' viewpoints, that Stream and Beast will be licensed eventually. What they think is, if it's about to be licensed, why bother starting?
Now, as for why no other groups of Rockman fans have been formed to sub either of the seasons...they have, but seemingly due to lack of staff (same problem WPP is having; lack of translators to be precise) they have fallen apart after 1 or 2 episodes or never managed to get off the ground. I would like to think that if there was a sudden influx of fluent Japanese translators in the community, that rather than starting their own fansub group they would contact WPP so that Axess could be continued. But that's probably too much to hope for.
| Aether wrote: | | I would certainly like to have the rest of subbed Axess, and subs of Stream and Beast. |
Yeah, so would I. XD
| Zabi wrote: | | They took the episode down soon after it was put up and then denied it ever existed. I have no idea why. |
Because it was an April Fool's Day joke; after the previous year's joke (the infamous "access 11") we thought it would be funny if we put out a REAL sub and see who would refuse to download it, thinking it would be fake. The rest of the joke was pulling the sub and pretending it everyone had imagined it.
| Flame Buster wrote: | | Anyway, apparently subbing Rockman EXE at WPP is hard because many people are reluctant, or something. I forget Izumi's actual wording, but I think it's bevcause they're getting short on staff willing to sub it. |
Yeah, we're short on translation/typesetting power. If you know how to do either of those things, feel free to look us up. XD
| Proto wrote: | | I have the sub,if you guys would like I could upload it to Megaupload? :] |
As long as you don't reencode it, please.
....I hope that clears up some misunderstandings. Feel free to ask me any questions you might have.
That aside, I realize you are new, Zabi, but please do read the REO forum rules; more specifically:
| PlaguedOne wrote: | Do not request files, images, codes, or other things unless specifically allowed to within the thread you are posting in.
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There is only one thread on the forum in which you are allowed to request episodes, and within that thread, there's this:
| Ryouko wrote: | +You are only allowed to request an episode if you have over 50 POSTS. This is to ward off users who sign up for the sole purpose of leeching. We will check your posts to make sure they are legitimate as well - not just nonsense gibberish to raise your count.
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Anyway, I'll commandeer this thread for further discussion on what I just posted, and leave it unlocked for now.
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Zabi
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Izumi wrote: | That aside, I realize you are new, Zabi, but please do read the REO forum rules; more specifically:
| PlaguedOne wrote: | Do not request files, images, codes, or other things unless specifically allowed to within the thread you are posting in.
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There is only one thread on the forum in which you are allowed to request episodes, and within that thread, there's this:
| Ryouko wrote: | +You are only allowed to request an episode if you have over 50 POSTS. This is to ward off users who sign up for the sole purpose of leeching. We will check your posts to make sure they are legitimate as well - not just nonsense gibberish to raise your count.
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I got bad news for you. That topic is titled "Rockman.exe Stream & Beast Downloads (No Subs) +Revised+" and I am asking for a subbed episode therefor that topic does not apply to this at all. I make sure to read rules and such before I start posting. I am not new either I registered months ago I just rarely post. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I think You're missing her point. You're NOT allowed to request ANYTHING in this forum unless someone is already offering them or a request thread has been opened and approved by the staff.
And that in the only request thread avaible requires you a minimum of 50 non-spamy posts to be able to request anything, otherwise your request is taken down and you're warned/banned if repeated. Please, abide to rules in the future. Also keep in mind people will offer to upload to the services that best work for them, so, be thankful and try downloading from their source, if you have trouble contact the member privately about it. Things like "Megaupload sux" can affect the view of the general population of the forum towards you.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Izumi wrote: |
Doing a licensed series is a blacklisting in the fansubbing community. You can't distribute on some of the more popular IRC servers (e.g. EnterTheGame), can't list your releases on animesuki.com or envirosphere, and are generally made fun of/looked down upon by the "legit" groups. No established fansub group wants to tarnish their reputation by continuing a licensed series, much less taking up one that has been long licensed. And there is no doubt, from some peoples' viewpoints, that Stream and Beast will be licensed eventually. What they think is, if it's about to be licensed, why bother starting?
Now, as for why no other groups of Rockman fans have been formed to sub either of the seasons...they have, but seemingly due to lack of staff (same problem WPP is having; lack of translators to be precise) they have fallen apart after 1 or 2 episodes or never managed to get off the ground. I would like to think that if there was a sudden influx of fluent Japanese translators in the community, that rather than starting their own fansub group they would contact WPP so that Axess could be continued. But that's probably too much to hope for.
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Ah, I was wondering when someone would make a thread like this. I recently began to wonder about the future of EXE dubbing since it seems like all has dried up.  I'd like to chime in here with my own questions and comments if I may. Sorry if this gets off topic. -_-;
I thought that even though Axess had been licensed, it was still being subbed because the company dubbing it also cut out portions of it and even entire episodes, not to mention the fact that the DVDs do not contain the original Japanese dialogue with subtitles. Isn't that reason enough to continue fan-subbing without being black listed? (And shame on anyone who would black list WPP :puku: )
Since WPP does provide a service to the Internet community (albeit a free one) those who do and have downloaded eps from there in the past come to expect a certain amount of output in a given time. If there isn't then they would at least like a reason posted up on the main page. Otherwise it starts to seem like everyone is abandoning ship and all torrents and downloads could stop any day. Is there any chance of a notice getting put up on the main page to let everyone know what's up?
If WPP is looking for good subbers, perhaps that could be added to the main page as well. A sort of "help wanted" poster if you will. I'm like a lot of sub watchers and only know a few words here and there, but there are probably a few out there who may want to help if they knew help was needed.
I try not to watch any EXE unless it is subbed, so...I've mainly seen what WPP has up. I may have seen a few dubbed eps here and there, but it airs while I'm at work and I really hate the voice work so I'd rather see it subbed. What are the chances of it starting back up? Slim to nil or better than GaoGaiGar making it to American television? lol
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Plantman wrote: | I think You're missing her point. You're NOT allowed to request ANYTHING in this forum unless someone is already offering them or a request thread has been opened and approved by the staff.
And that in the only request thread avaible requires you a minimum of 50 non-spamy posts to be able to request anything, otherwise your request is taken down and you're warned/banned if repeated. Please, abide to rules in the future. |
Put those in the rules. I'd rather obey them than break unwritten ones. I'm a huge fan of loopholes so they shouldn't be hidden in a topic that clearly says "No Subs".
| Plantman wrote: | | Also keep in mind people will offer to upload to the services that best work for them, so, be thankful and try downloading from their source, if you have trouble contact the member privately about it. Things like "Megaupload sux" can affect the view of the general population of the forum towards you. |
You have a point. Megaupload might work well enough for high speed users and in that case I could ask a friend to get the episode. I know one that owes me a favor anyway. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Zabi wrote: | | I got bad news for you. That topic is titled "Rockman.exe Stream & Beast Downloads (No Subs) +Revised+" and I am asking for a subbed episode therefor that topic does not apply to this at all. I make sure to read rules and such before I start posting. I am not new either I registered months ago I just rarely post. |
I've got news for you, Zabi, talk back to the administration and you risk being banned.
Perhaps you missed the first thing I quoted:
"Do not request files images, codes, or other things unless specifically allowed to within the thread you are posting in."
I didn't see anyone giving you permission to request fansubs, so I guess that puts you in the position of "rulebreaker".
You've been registered for six months. In the grand scheme of things, that's new, but I guess that can be let slide. I'll admit that I only looked at your post count to judge whether or not you were newly registered, since you were so blatantly violating forum rules.
*addendum*: You've posted since I started writing this, mentioned a loophole. There are no loopholes involved; the "do not request" quote came from this topic:
http://www.kishuku.com/reo/viewtopic.php?t=3707
Trigger - I'll have to get to your questions later tonight. :)
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Gasp! A thread called "ROCKMAN.EXE ONLINE FORUM RULES - Read before posting!" and the entire forum's rules are located in it?! WTF!
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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ZOMG! Thats BRILLIANT! a forum topic just for rules?
What will they come up with next!
*agrees with plantman Izumi and PlaguedOne 100%*
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Excuse me for being redundant, but the 'you're not allowed to request anything' rule already is clearly stated in the Rules post of this forum. You might like to re-read it to refresh your memory. Do not abide only for the few guidelines stated in the entry page towards this message board. Always review the welcome/general forums, for all the important information is posted there or in our news section.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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That explains it. I skimmed the spam section when I first read it because at every other forum I've been to spam is just stuff like flooding and advertising. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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*AHEM* Back on topic:
Thank you, Izumi, for clearing this up for me. I was starting to lose faith in EXE subbing. But since there's a valid excuse for this, I may just start asking around to see who's willing to sign up to help you guys out!
I'd comment more, but I'm on my way out to work -_-;
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Proto wrote: | | I have the sub,if you guys would like I could upload it to Megaupload? :] |
same here, Ill gladly upload it |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the Sub for whoever wants it,If any admin or mods don't want the link up then they can remove it or I'll remove it...
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