Beast 24 Talkback (SPOILERS)

Nenji · Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:51 pm Post subject:

I liked the Stream Finale personally. It was symbolic and far more effective than the CF. Members brainlessly bashing Duo. I agree that a little more dramatic conflict may have been nice, but the Ending still felt very effective to me.
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hobbit_hunter · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:46 am Post subject:

YamiKusanagi · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:05 am Post subject:

In my opinion, fillers can be either entertaining, or a waste of time. I was actually rather pleased with this series. All plot, and only one episode was a filler.

Like many people have probably said, Stream was packed with fillers and the plot got scrunched up towards the end of the season.

I assumed that Beyondard's technology was about the same as Earth's technology, if not more advanced, before the [spoil:43e40beb96]Dimensional Area Incident.[/spoil:43e40beb96]

And I assumed Trill's ability of shrinking viruses was from the power of the Synchronizer. It doesn't hurt to assumed things, but hey, I could be wrong about Trill.

Well, that's all for my two cents. Hopefully, Rockman will go under a "Chou Juuka" form.
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Nenji · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:10 am Post subject:

I'm reasonably sure we saw Beast Over in Beast 22 I think, or 21. The one where he battled Z Cloudman at any rate.
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Crimson Seiko · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:10 am Post subject:

That was 21. 22 was Kirisaki's debut.

Beast had a reasonable amount of fillers (and filler-ish episodes), actually... the only real difference is that, even though most of them were pretty dull (in my opinion), it's not as big a concern because we weren't getting a new dull filler every single week, i.e. Stream...
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Nenji · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:54 am Post subject:

Character devolpment is an important part of the series though, so those Fillers did serve a purpose.

Also, does anyone know exactly why Iris returned to Barrel's PET but not Colonel? We definately know something happened but I'd assumed that Iris had merged with Colonel to help him resist the Beastization Factor. But, that isn't the case it seems.
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Crimson Seiko · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:04 am Post subject:

Not completely sure. To me, it seemed like... when Iris destroyed the beast element in Colonel (in 23), she was still within the Copyroid... just severely wounded or something (which explains why Dingo was carrying it around still... that would seem odd if there was no one inside of it). So when Colonel plugged into the Copyroid later, they were somewhat "merged." This is why Colonel was using Iris's little forcefield ability thinger when he was traveling through the cyber network. But Colonel sacrificed himself to destroy the D-Area Generator around Wily's lab, so only Iris returned.

But, ask someone who speaks Japanese. That's just my assumption.
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**Ryouko** · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:35 am Post subject:

That's pretty much it right on the nail. Iris' ability to pass through firewalls allowed the copyroid and Colonel to pass through. In the end, Colonel had to sacrifice himself in order to destroy the dimensional area generator. No more B. Colonel. :<
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Tachyon360 · Le Croissant Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 740

What I don't get is why Colonel had to sacrifice himself. Even after Wily kinda took control of Colonel, Iris seemingly got him back together. Would've it been that hard to wind up for a second attempt at Screen Dividing the generator?

**Sol** · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject:

It could have been a number of different reasons. One being that Colonel didn't have enough energy to produce another Screen Divide, and saw no other choice. I would imagine fighting against the Beast element inside him took up a tremendous amount of energy, so his energy would have been insufficient to deal another attack. Hence, his sacrifice.
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Tachyon360 · Le Croissant Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 740

If that's the case, why not send everyone with a Synchro Chip through the Dimensional Area? They were able to last long enough in Beyondard's weird gobal DA, and there's every reason to believe that CF would behave normally inside of a normal DA.

Crimson Seiko · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject:

Yeah... I was wondering why Netto, Enzan, or Laika didn't find a way to build up enough speed and blast through the D-Area... you know, just like they did multiple times in Axess, kinda like in that one episode dedicated to the technique...
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**Sol** · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject:

Again, keep track of how long each event is going on. Netto, Enzan, and Laika exerted themselves to their limit by staying in Cross Fusion, and their bodies are still recovering. I doubt if they would have enough strength to blast their way into a Dimensional Area, since only a scant few minutes have passed during the whole episode, which is definately not enough time to recover.
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Proto · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject:

What I don't get is why Lan was able to withstand the CrossFusion more then Laika and Enzan.

Crimson Seiko · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject:

He was ready for it. Those were the first times Laika and Enzan tried Cross Fusion... it caught them off guard.

Thing is, though... using Cross Fusion to go through a Dimensional Area only takes a few seconds to do. I'm sure they could withstand a little bit more pain for that amount of time...

Then again, I guess it might be a bit complicated to deal with Cross Fusing through a D-Area while in a proximity that already acts like a D-Area.
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ComicX6 · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject:

Just finished watching it. With Colonel's deletion, there is now a major plothole: why was Iris running from Colonel's shadow in Beast 12? And what was he doing there anyway? Silly writers.
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Flame Buster · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:

Nenji · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject:

My reasoning was that Rock had some sort of Aura around him; if you look at the artwork for the Beast Overs they have the same Aura. Also, he powered up substantially suddenly, as you say there may have been another explanation it's just what I thought.
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Flame Buster · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject:

I suppose it can be thought of either way. I just thought that maybe Rock was doing a DBZ knockoff attack, or something. My only reasoning behind my theory is that Rock seemed to be in too much control to fit *exe6 spoilers*[spoil:6a7eafdcc6]the Beast Over in the games.[/spoil:6a7eafdcc6]
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Crimson Seiko · Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject:

Come to think of it, Beast 12 DOESN'T make sense. Why was Iris running from the shadow of Colonel...?
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