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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess what folks? Today's the day Rockman ZX gets released in Japan! Now we get to learn about the interesting stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to double post but nobody else seems to be talking about this.

What I can confirm for this is that:

[spoil:864d449c20]There are a grand total of 8 Live Metals that I know of in the game.

Live Metal X - X
Live Metal Z - Zero
Live Metal H - Harpuia
Live Metal F - Fefnir
Live Metal L - Leviathan
Live Metal P - Phantom
Live Metal V - Dr. Vile (I feel sorry for anyone who was EXPECTING Vava)
Live Metal O - Omega[/spoil:864d449c20]
In addition you'll need to have Megaman Zero 3 + 4 for connectivity.

[spoil:864d449c20]This will allow you to face bosses from the past

Megaman Zero 3
Childre Inarabitta
Deathanz Mantisk
Blazin Flizard
Devilbat Schilt

Megaman Zero 4
Pegasolta Eclair
Fenri Lunaedge
Noble Mandrago
Sol Titanian

You will even go up face to face with Omega himself (I assume this is after you face the previous 8 bosses). As a reward for not throwing these games away you will recieve Live Metal O.[/spoil:864d449c20]
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So anyone else ordered their copy yet? I just have but I sold my Zero games to get it. Mildly annoying.

So what is [spoil:0be433644d]Live Metal O?[/spoil:0be433644d]
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, [spoil:1bdfe805af]Live Metal O = Omega, the final boss of Zero 3. But will that mean Omega the gigantic robot, or Omega in zero's real body....[/spoil:1bdfe805af]
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ridiculously spoilerific post compiled from multiple posts on GameFAQs, Undersquare, and news posts on Atomic-Fire and Rockman PM.

I still don't have the game myself so feel free to point out errors. I merely only compiled this list to answer the above as well as any future questions.

[spoil:c7c6b5e157]First things first, we all know that before activating ROCK ON, you play as the human versions of Vent(Van) and Aile(Eeru). Why would you want to be them? Answer is revealed. There are certain areas where you have to be them to access. Remember how in Rockman7, you needed to take off the Super Adapter at some points to slide because the armor was too bulky? Same case here.

Differences between Vent and Aile:

Remember how in Biohazard 1 you could play as Jill or Chris, with Jill being weaker but having an easy story and Chris being stronger but having a harder story? Same case here. Only Vent is the easier game and Aile is the harder game while at the same time, weaker.

-Vent is slower but doesn't take much recoil from enemy attacks.
-Aile is quicker and takes a good amount of recoil.
-Vent has a powerful double buster charged shot with Model X.
-Aile has a more efficient dash.

Overall, you should start with Vent, and when your skill goes up, play with Aile.

The design is the same as the Zero series though much more exciting with the two screens.

Now for the Real Spoilers:

Throughout the game, you can obtain the following.

-Model X
-Model ZX
-Model HX
-Model FX
-Model LX
-Model PX

You begin with Model X. This is really basic. Has all the abilities that X had plus a Double Buster.

Through the beginning of the game, you understand what the Live Metals actually are. Live ie meant literally...these metals are the living essense of the past Repliroids and they guide you. So for the first part of the game, X will be your mentor. At some point in the game, your sempai, Girouette, will be greatly injured. From that point, you will have Model ZX. That's right, you can no longer single ROCK ON to Model X. ZX is your default Live Metal. It's okay, you still have Model X's abilities other than the Double Buster. You also gain the Zet-Saber if you're Vent, and the Buster Shot if you're Aile. Some other abilities will be enhanced as well.

Before that point though, you will have obtained Model HX, FX, LX, and PX. You're going to be using this more than ZX. Upside is that they are waaaaay stronger and you won't want to use ZX. Down side is that they are element based (Lightning, Blaze, Ice, Shadow) and you should be careful. These four also have overdrives that are neccessary to use at some points. Your attacks gain elemental properties. HX has electic double Sabers for his overdrive, FX burns everything with attacks, LX freezes everything, and PX gains Shadow Dash to pass through attacks unharmed.

You obtain each of the Shitennou's Live Metal's twice. The second time upgrades your charged attack.

For example, HX starts out with Plasma Bit, an eletric ball, and goes to Plasma
Cyclone, a tornado.

LX's charged shot is a halberd swing that creates ice platforms to ride on. Level 2 is an ice dragon instead.

FX is the powerful Megaton Crusher shot from the Knuckle Busters. Level 2 is the Ground Break shockwave technique.

PX starts with a large fuuma shuriken and for the second attack, creates a shield aura.

HX and LX are your best friends in travel (air or water) as well as close range. FX and PX are your best friends in range, and PX is the master of stealth. Also, as Harpuia was intelligent in his living days, HX will provide you with boss weaknesses throughout the battles. PX also has the radar and night scope for certain missions and can hang from the cieling or walls while FX has the buster edit ability, allowing you to aim with the touch screen.

Weapons:
-X: Double Buster
-ZX: Zet Saber (Vent), Buster Shot (Aile)
-HX: Double Sabers
-LX: Halberd
-FX: Knuckle Buster
-PX: Kunai

Who's the enemy of this game? The one leading all the Irregulars? Early reports revealed the human Serpent to be an antagonist character....but just a human???

Dr. Vile is back. Yes, we thought we killed him at the end of Zero 4 but he too became a Live Metal. He is controlling Serpent. He's not the only one to come back. His pet Omega's here too, in the form of Zero once again.

But that's not so bad because we can play as him too. Not Model V...(who wants to play as some old doctor with a fish tank on his head?).....but Model O....or OX actually.

Btw, Bosses regain health. No more sitting around.

By combining Rockman Zero 3 and Rockman Zero 4 into the Nintendo DS W-gate, you can face off against four bosses from each game.

Rockman Zero 3:
-Childre Inarabitta
-Deathtants Mantisk
-Blazing Flizard
-Hellbat Silt

Rockman Zero 4:
-Pegasolta Equrell (I can't spell this guy's name >.<)
-Fenrir Lunaedge
-Noble Mandrago
-Sol Titanian

Beating all eight will result in a Live Metal object known as "Strange Stone". This later will be traded for Model O. Through Double ROCK ON, you can become Model OX.....which is nothing more than the form of Omega Zero you fight at the end of Zero 3. In other words, you are the final boss and you will have the saber abilities from the past games when using Overdrive. Pretty neat.

"Isn't OX nothing more than a stronger ZX?"

Model OX is way better than Model ZX. ZX has no O.I.S. (Overdrive Invoke System) and therefore is nothing more than a slightly weaker yet advanced (or stronger depending on how you look at it) version of Model X. Model OX is a super version of ZX. At first it does nothing more than turn you into Zero with the standard Zet-Saber. However, hit A and activate Overdrive. First thing you'll notice is that Overdrive lasts FOREVER. Not only that but you have all three elements at your disposal. Fire for Ryuusenjin (Up + Attack), Elec for Sonic Boom (Down + Attack), Ice for Kuuenzan (Attack in the air), and neutral for Rakuhouha (Down and buster). Also, ever shot from the Buster is a charged shot though you lose the Saber charge.

I forgot to mention that when Serpent uses Model V, he can control enemies. I should also mention that Girouette is not a human, but half human half Repliroid. After you obtain Model Z, Girouette sadly dies and becomes a Cyber Elf. He's gone off to join Zero and all the other dead heroes. Sad[/spoil:c7c6b5e157]
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how would someone be [spoil:982aff114a]half human half reploid?[/spoil:982aff114a] Like a [spoil:982aff114a]cyborg[/spoil:982aff114a] or something?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember in the early news reports of how the human race and Repliroid race gained aspects of each other? In other words, Girouette would be a Repliroid with biological parts, a new model. Which explains how he was able to become a Cyber Elf.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, i leave you here some screens of me playing ZX, i got the game this morning so i been playing it since then, and guess what!?
I already have some screens of:

[spoil:c55dd30f8f]O-LiveMetal A.K.A "Strange Stone":
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i113/riku_kun/uporg437072.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i113/riku_kun/uporg437071.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i113/riku_kun/uporg437069.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i113/riku_kun/up119875.jpg
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Pretty neat huh? And i thought the secret metal was going to be some kind of powered X Model. A very cool add-on indeed by Capcom, enjoy the images.
And now back to playing ZX.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw those yesterday on RPM and GameFAQs.

Personally I think that using [spoil:923b4d254d]Model OX would make the game too easy but oh well.[/spoil:923b4d254d]
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a little interesting thing I heard. Not much of a spoiler really but an interesting Easter Egg nonetheless.

[spoil:24595dc915]If you play as Aile you will occasionally run into people who will be able to change Aile's hair color, clothes and shoes. These are permanent things, but you can revert back to your old style anytime. You won't be offered any sort of makeover as Vent. This is for girls only![/spoil:24595dc915]
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mind if I ask a dumb question?

In ZX, do all humans REALLY have machine bodies?

If so, it may lend weight to my hypothesis that Prarie is Alouette's great-grandaughter.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking that they either ment cyborgs, or that technology can now make artifical bio organs, so that reploids now have organs made from artifical materials, but they are still organic.

But the mavericks still in the Outer are probably still all mechanical.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm, about Prarie...

[spoil:9f62a0f9cc]Prarie IS Alouette. This is only revealed in Aile's playthrough...which seems to reveal more storyline overall (such as Girouette's role and the final boss dialogue) The 'onee-chan' she refers to in one scene is indeed Ciel, leader of the former Resistance and the first leader of Guardian. Prarie reveals that she has been around of ro hundreds of years. How she appears older must have to do with the new technology. No word on why she changed her name though.[/spoil:9f62a0f9cc]

The Irregulars are indeed completely mechanical.[/spoil]
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just figured something... There's an image in the Physis calendar for Rockman Zero 4 where Alouette is with Ciel and holds what looks like a little kitty... Well, this kitty shows up in the anime goo trailer when we see Prairie. If Prairie and Alouette are different, at least they have the same kitty
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

....please read what I just said in regards to your last part. >.<
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They should definitely make Prarie a playable character when they make a sequel to this.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrkXFuZion wrote:
Ummm, about Prarie...

[spoil:4ad59bde18]Prarie IS Alouette. This is only revealed in Aile's playthrough...which seems to reveal more storyline overall (such as Girouette's role and the final boss dialogue) The 'onee-chan' she refers to in one scene is indeed Ciel, leader of the former Resistance and the first leader of Guardian. Prarie reveals that she has been around of ro hundreds of years. How she appears older must have to do with the new technology. No word on why she changed her name though.[/spoil:4ad59bde18]


[spoil:4ad59bde18]It could have just been a body modification of sorts. That old guy in the Zero series got his appearance changed over time, maybe Alouette just felt that since she was getting older or something it was time to change her appearance to reflect it?[/spoil:4ad59bde18]

Just a thought.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really have to et this when it comes out over here. I see Live Metals are called "Model ZX, HX, etc." Do you have to combine the Live Metal with the Model X you get at the beggining or does it automaticly come as Model " "X?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They automatically become the double Rock On form. You can never use the model alone, which isn't neccessarily a bad thing because having Model X as the base grants the X-Buster/ZX-Buster and such.
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