Okay, seriously, why all the hate?

SuperDanny · Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject:

I have a perfect file in Blue Moon and I'm not even halfway through Red Sun. I was dissapointed with EXE 4 in many ways:

I didn't like the new overworld sprites, way too small, I miss the large ones.

Pretty much every tournament scenario was pointless and just annoying, never interesting or fun (maybe save a very select few, like Blues' scenario... which was still tedious but, man was it interesting). They all took place in areas of the net you already knew, sometimes they took way too long, and seemed more like very very tedious BBS requests then plot chapters.

The game's entire story was very weak and not memorable at all. Felt like a "filler" game, nothing too important happens in EXE 4, when your looking at the series as a whole.

Netto never calls Rockman "Saito". If this is wrong someone please correct me and tell me where it happens. I loved the Netto/Saito thing the game story had, and it was never referenced in this game much, if at all.

Dark Chips. So, incredibly, powerfully, earth-shakingly AWESOME in the Anime... ridiculously stupid and pointless in the games. Yeah, let me use a Recovery 1000... JUST so I can get a DRAIN HP bug, and PERMENATELY LOSE a Max HP point... absolutely retarded. And having to be "Dark" to use Muramasa and other cool chips/PAs? Not worth it, and just annoying, nothing more.

What I liked:

Soul Unisons are awesome. Not awesome enough though for 3 playthroughs of an already tedious game.

Fightable navis, so many! And fighting Normal Navis/Hell Navis was very cool, I wish sooooo much they would've continued that (just, outside of ridiculous randomly generated tournament brackets of course).

Although I hated much about EXE 4, I really appreciate what it did for the series. It really was like, a new beginning for Rockman EXE. And not just brand new sprites/mugshots and Soul Unisons, but... beyond the game. EXE 4 triggered Rockman EXE Axess, which is today still my absolute favorite TV show ever. At that time, the Battle Chip Gate came out, and the new toy Advanced Pet, which both used a REAL PHYSICAL library of toy battle chips. The Axess card game, the E-Reader+ cards, just, SO MUCH merchandising and publicity exploded with EXE 4 behind it all, it really put Rockman EXE out there as a huge game franchise. But, of course, that all had nothing to do with EXE 4's quality level... that was all marketing and whatnot... so yeah, EXE 4 sucks Razz

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mega rock.exe · Net Savior Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 133

I guess I need to put my thoughts too. I'll start with the sprites. Personally, I liked the new smaller sprites. Seems to fit the map better the old "titan-like" ones. The overall colors of the game changed for the better. I was getting tired of grayish-colorless skin tones and stuff. Some things retained BN3, sprite-wise. Again, my opinion. I'm usually picky about those things. Things must change anyways. It would be terribly dissapointing if the same overworld, mugshot and in battle sprite were used in all 6 games.

Abiisan · Net Agent Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 285 Location: Midwest

Ya, I never quite got over making it to the third playthrough where I would finally attain Rollsoul, only to watch the cartridge smash in a doorframe the day I was likely to get it. As a result, I never used Rollsoul and, even though I bought the game again, I was a bit too sad to start over again and hope I'd get lucky. Roll Soll and its chapter was really looking like it would be one of the game's highlights in my book.
I probably would'nt have minded playing though it multiple times like that if they had added a few more changes with each playthroigh, just so each one felt a bit more unique and made me want to play it again for the story anf its changes, not just for the different souls to collect.
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Roll Soul · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject:

Okay I have a question and I know, this isn't exactly an opinion thing, but then again I already said my piece, so I'll go ahead and ask.

Am I the only person who got Roll Soul on their first playthrough? oO; XD It seems to me that everyone I hear from has gotten it on their third.
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Shakai · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject:

Nenji · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:51 am Post subject:

I also got Roll Soul on my first play through, it also ensured my brother would never Netbattle me again. T_T
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Hubstyle Master · Net Savior Age: 32 Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 175

I liked that FireMan made a comeback, and the ability to battle any navi at Higsby's. All of that stuff is great and all, but the most of the navi's look seriousely messed up in 4,5, and 6. Like ColdMan, BlizzardMan, and CircusMan (WTF), and I really didn't like Soul unisons. 3 should've been the last game in the series. But, you make some interesting points of view, but once you've played the first three, playing the second part of the BN series (4,5, & 6) will only lead you to dissapointment. But I do agree that BN4 had its strongpoints, but it also had it's weak points. I've played BN1-3, and now I just GameShark my BN4, save next to higsby's, and play the little tournaments he has there. If they hadn't turned Lan into a midget and kept Bass' attack pattern, the old ACDC town, made cooler viruses, chips, and P.A.'s, made Duo a little less cheap (also... WTF Capcom) and made cooler Navis, then it would be aa really cool game. These few sugestions would have a HUGE impact on the game, and a lot more people would enjoy it.

**PlaguedOne** · Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject:

Coldman and Blizardman looks almost identical to their Robot Master counterparts. Circusman is a contest entry design, so blame whoever came up with him. XP

While I may not have enjoyed BN4 all that much, I don't agree with your assessment that 4-6 are all bad. BN5 is one of my favorites. I loved to play out the Liberation Missions. BN6 isn't as good as 5, but I still enjoyed the game.

Why would they not change Forte's attack patterns? So you can memorise it and never take any damage from him? It's Forte... he should get harder to fight. They -should- be changing navi attack patterns, to keep it challenging.
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XHunter17 · Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject:

Well I own both versions of EXE 4 and while the Tournaments add no plot to the story, I still find this game quite enjoyable.

well thats basically all I have to say. I really don't see a point in arguing about if this game was good or not because everyone has their own opinion ^.^

but me personally I love playing this game along with the other EXE games.

*bricked*
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Shakai · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:45 am Post subject:

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Really? Cuase I just saw it as an extra way to restrict standard chips some more. I can't even put two Tri Arrow3's in my folder, unless theres an NCP that I don't know about...

Midnight · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject:

Shakai is right--I found the new sliding system of chip restrictions to be a somewhat better than that of the previous games with respect to folder building. The upper-level chips are heavy on the MB usage, anyway; so changing the system from the old highlander ("There can be only one") to the newer system doesn't affect it much. On the other hand, it means that the smaller chips get a larger share in potentially good folders. Not many things were nerfed in this change, save maybe the fact that there can now only be 3 Invis * to a folder. Other than that, the new restirctions, coupled with the plethora of * chips, makes EXE6 a far richer and more diverse game with respect to the metagame.
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tuxdev · Net Savior Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 139

For some odd reason, I felt 6 was the summation of the rest of the series. It is like the developers actually looked into what made each of the past iterations good. Chip restrictions from 1, permanent transform from 2, NaviCust from 3, Navi based transforms from 4, playing as another Navi from 5.

If the story line in the multiple runs of 4 were somewhat different, then going through the story again would have been much more bearable to me. I didn't get through it the second time because it was so boring.
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Shakai · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject:

Revenant · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject:

I got Burusu soul on my first playthrough.

Though, I thought the game was too long and disjointed to flow. The massive downtime between combat was harsh. It made the deaf man cheer, so to speak.

Duo was interesting, and was far cooler of an addition than Nebula Gray--pardon me, I just got a phonecall of a recorded man saying how illegal immigration sucks-- and had a better ride, but the storyline was amazing in that everyone was turning to children who won a tournament because the most obvious baddie ever sabotaged the only asteroid defence system ever thought of.

Look! It's got a network!
Sweet! There's a navitourney! Well I'll be! Let's put a little kid in vacuum to saev teh dai! God knows Laika and Enzan would be better choices.

Logically, Duo wouldn't be able to touch anything asife from Protoman's shield, and technically the sword.

Just an odd question, but has anyone used so many dark chips that their health has gone to one? Or is it possible to go beyond that? That would rock.
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Hubstyle Master · Net Savior Age: 32 Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 175

To answer your question Revenant, I've borrowed my copy od BN4 to my friend, and my HP was at 1000 something, and he got a little carried away with the Dark chips, so my HP actually DID go down to one.. until I regained it with Navi Cust. Programs and Gameshark codes.

In BN4,Dou was in the game for what? The last five seconds? In all of the other games, they lead on to the final boss, telling us at least something about it. And the other games had the final boss as a part of the main storyline. They should have told a little bit of info on Duo before sticking him in at the last minute.

The whole Nebula thing was messed up to. I couldn't tell who was the main villan. Duo or Nebula. And... What was Nebula's main goal? To make an asteroid crash into the earth thus killing themselves along with everyone else? I just don't get the plot, If there is any at all...

subaru · banned onoes :< Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 7

bn4 was a good game but its the one that i thought was a huge downfall. I did not like the idea of having to go through the game 3 times to actually beat it.

**Sol** · Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject:

Please don't bump up dead threads. Thanks.
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