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ComicX6 We're working on it!
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Keep in mind though, this is only the first game. Future games could make an attempt to bridge the 200 year gap. Though if they do, I hope that they don't botch it. _________________ ' I don't care if the buzz isn't real- I can roleplay being drunk!'
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kram_elbog Cross Fusion!
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I said probably well known, didn't say he was for certain. And I thought [spoil:9952b7d3d8] War Rock was an FM Seijin, because I thought that what the beings of the FM planet called?. [/spoil:9952b7d3d8] _________________ I didn't lose my mind, I sold it on eBay!
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DrkXFuZion Soul Unison
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 895 Location: I'm Lost!!!
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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kram_elbog wrote: | [spoil:cbab848338] War Rock was an FM Seijin, because I thought that what the beings of the FM planet called?. [/spoil:cbab848338] |
...only he's not that either. If you've played to the final scenario, it is revealed that [spoil:cbab848338]he is actually one of the few survivors of the AM Planet after it was destroyed by Andromeda. The third scenario also hints at this as the three satellite AM Seijin tell War Rock that they are unable to grant Harp the power of Star Force as the two are completely different beings.[/spoil:cbab848338] _________________ ~DrkX (Resident over-sexed camera-whore & Facebook zombie.)
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kram_elbog Cross Fusion!
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: |
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ah, that makes sense, I've beat the game but of course I don't really know much Japanese so yeah, thanks for clearing that up, now the series makes much more sense. _________________ I didn't lose my mind, I sold it on eBay!
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PhantomReaver Kyuuketsuki
Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 209 Location: Black Maverick Earth in Poland
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:28 am Post subject: |
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Heh. Got 4 marks already. Now, only M Comp and this last one :D
But well, I knew that Warrock is [spoil:b30471fedf]AM Sejiin, but if he is from AM Planet, then why Cepheus call him "a traitor"?[/spoil:b30471fedf][/spoil] _________________
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Sketch The Boy who is Very Sart
Age: 37 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 2349
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:31 am Post subject: |
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[spoil:8f134c5131]He thought War-Rock was from the FM Planet. So therefore, traitor[/spoil:8f134c5131] _________________
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TriggerEXE Net Savior
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 175 Location: Sector X-13
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Oh, okay. No shouting at someone who has only heard rumors now. -_-;
But now that I've heard these things, let me present this theory...that someone probably has already thought of. Heh.
[spoil:1f836c9294]FM planet? AM planet? What do we find FM and AM on? Radios right? What was Netto's son's name? Ratio! Connection? Or...is that already established? Like, Ratio is more or less credited with creating the "Wave" system and such in the game. If not and he isn't mentioned at all, then you have to wonder. Some kinda connection could be there.
Also, it looks like they cross fuse in this game. Is that true or do they just look very similar? Or is that how the wave system works? Everyone fuses and goes wave diving?[/spoil:1f836c9294] _________________ Power wielded by incompetance leads to nothing but self destruction. |
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PhantomReaver Kyuuketsuki
Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 209 Location: Black Maverick Earth in Poland
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: |
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To Trigger EXE
[spoil:053d7d5da1]Raito's name was created by Capcom because of Dr.Right (Light). Right, Raito, Raito, Right - get it eh?
As for Waves - There are navis on the wave roads normally. But Warrock is an ALIEN. Not every person on earth has Alien in Transer :D. And Subaru Fuses with Warrock (Warrock looks like Wolf to me ) into Rockman (it's called Denpa Hekan), and he is going on the wave roads. You can still err...plug? onto electronic devices. You just have to go to te Wave Road and jump into this device. Nice, eh? Bosses are also Denpa Henkan - Humans who fused with FM Sejiins.
And we don't know yet WHO created Wave World. For now we only know who created Brother Band System. If I understood correctly, Hoshikawa Daigo created it. [/spoil:053d7d5da1] _________________
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DrkXFuZion Soul Unison
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 895 Location: I'm Lost!!!
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: |
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PhantomReaver wrote: | To Trigger EXE
[spoil:2b901e4b0e]Raito's name was created by Capcom because of Dr.Right (Light). Right, Raito, Raito, Right - get it eh?
As for Waves - There are navis on the wave roads normally. But Warrock is an ALIEN. Not every person on earth has Alien in Transer :D. And Subaru Fuses with Warrock (Warrock looks like Wolf to me ) into Rockman (it's called Denpa Hekan), and he is going on the wave roads. You can still err...plug? onto electronic devices. You just have to go to te Wave Road and jump into this device. Nice, eh? Bosses are also Denpa Henkan - Humans who fused with FM Sejiins.
And we don't know yet WHO created Wave World. For now we only know who created Brother Band System. If I understood correctly, Hoshikawa Daigo created it. [/spoil:2b901e4b0e] |
Navis can also interact outside the wave roads as long as they remain near wave roads, wave space, or within range of the network/dennou where they are located. For instance, Trademan is able to "sit" on top of his card trader machines, certain navis can be seen around with the Visualizer.
The term for entering a network is called Waving in. The term for a fusion is known as Denpa Ningen (Wave Human). "Denpa Henkan" means "Radio Wave Conversion", hence why Subaru says "Denpa Henkan! {the name you entered}, On Air!" when he transforms.
"Light" would make more sense as a way to interpret "Raito"s name due to his surname being "Hikari"...
...big story of how all the humans met their FM Seijin...
[spoil:2b901e4b0e]Ox appears before Gonta after Subaru humiliates Gonta with his War Rock upper. (War Rock possesses his arm and uppercuts Gonta, who was being annoying.) He offers Gonta power to allow himself to prove himself to Luna.
Cygnus appears before Utagai Shinsuke and convinces him that he can be trusted, unlike all those around Utagai who have "betrayed" him in some way or another.
Harp appears before Misora, who is angry at those around her, particularly her manager. Harp treats Misora as a goddess of music and Misora accepts her as a "mother" of sort. Harp is somewhat of a pacifist though and joins WarRock because she doesn't want to destroy Misora's home planet.
Libra appears before Ikuta and manipulates him into becoming his host, taking advantage of Ikuta's huge fear of being fired due to his large family.
Ophiuchus appears before Luna specifically because she knows she can get to WarRock and Subaru through her and offers Luna the ability to get revenge on her parents.
Gemini has been in contact with Tsukasa long before the start of the series and has been orchestrating many of the events that occur throughout the game. His job as right hand to Cepheus is to keep a watch on Earth, which is seen as a possible threat to the FM Planet because of Cepheus' misguided opinion. Tsukasa was an orphan and thus, Gemini found it easy to make companionship with him.
THAT's why the other characters have FM Seijin. It's not an ordinary thing. Subaru and all others who can perform Denpa Henkan are very special people. Everyone else still relies on navis.
As for the other three, Shouken Chiyokichi, Ogami Juurou, and Jean Coronne XIV, it is unknown how they met their partners although Subaru is surprised that they do have partners in the first place. It's somewhat assumed that the three FM seijin Cancer, Wolf, and Crown were wanderers.[/spoil:2b901e4b0e] _________________ ~DrkX (Resident over-sexed camera-whore & Facebook zombie.)
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PhantomReaver Kyuuketsuki
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, Yes I forgot about Navis in Real world.
And after credits Harp said something like [spoil:9df3d33caa]"we can only be with person who have sadness in his heart"[/spoil:9df3d33caa] or something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong. _________________
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ComicX6 We're working on it!
Age: 34 Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1071 Location: Listening to 'Secret Agent Man'
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I have seen rips of generic navi-like beings. What are they exactly? Are those still navis, or are they something else? _________________ ' I don't care if the buzz isn't real- I can roleplay being drunk!'
- Balmung, .hack vol. 1
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kram_elbog Cross Fusion!
Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 1043 Location: Somewhere
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Comic X6, those generic navis are generic navis. Just like there are certain specialized navis which do whatever their name implies. [spoil:4de5b18ba4]tradingman/tradingman SP operate the card traders, openman opens doors and so on.[/spoil:4de5b18ba4] _________________ I didn't lose my mind, I sold it on eBay!
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TriggerEXE Net Savior
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 175 Location: Sector X-13
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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DrkXFuZion wrote: | PhantomReaver wrote: | To Trigger EXE
[spoil:b9975d0076]Raito's name was created by Capcom because of Dr.Right (Light). Right, Raito, Raito, Right - get it eh?[/spoil:b9975d0076] |
"Light" would make more sense as a way to interpret "Raito"s name due to his surname being "Hikari"... |
Hah! I knew it! There you go. :]
[spoil:b9975d0076]There is no 'L' and technically no 'R' in the Japanese language, but it gets translated that way in English. So Right becomes Light or Hikari. Since his surname is Hikari...he could very well be related to Netto's family. Maybe not directly, but somehow.
Now I have another question. Since you've explained that WarRock merges with Subaru, does that mean his merged form is the "navi" form he takes on when he "Waves In" or does he look like WarRock? I can only go from what pics I've seen and all I've seen is the main character looking like a human merged with a navi. This is getting very TRON-ish. (No, not Tron Bonn ) [/spoil:b9975d0076] Thanks again! ^_^ _________________ Power wielded by incompetance leads to nothing but self destruction. |
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Enzan Chaud [Tuxedo Mask]
Age: 36 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Location: Laredo, Texas
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.capcom.co.jp/ryusei/
Pictures of Warrock can be found here, as well as other things. There's a saying that even if Rockman fans don't know Japanese, they can get by somehow. The Buster that looks like a dog is WarRock, and his real form looks kinda like a dog/wolf. also, you could just watch the first episode on youtube or something like that.
Hoshikawa Subaru isn't related to Hikari Netto, it's more like IF his surname was Hikari he WOULD be related to Netto, but he isn't. Hikari Raito was Netto's son, so he is a direct decendant of Netto... you get it? :O
EDIT: nevermind the central paragraph, forgot XD; _________________ http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=100000142872316
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Sketch The Boy who is Very Sart
Age: 37 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 2349
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Since we don't have separate threads for game questions and general discussion, you should still mark spoilers, please. _________________
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DrkXFuZion Soul Unison
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 895 Location: I'm Lost!!!
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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TriggerEXE wrote: | DrkXFuZion wrote: | PhantomReaver wrote: | To Trigger EXE
[spoil:48a5e467bf]Raito's name was created by Capcom because of Dr.Right (Light). Right, Raito, Raito, Right - get it eh?[/spoil:48a5e467bf] |
"Light" would make more sense as a way to interpret "Raito"s name due to his surname being "Hikari"... |
Hah! I knew it! There you go. :]
[spoil:48a5e467bf]There is no 'L' and technically no 'R' in the Japanese language, but it gets translated that way in English. So Right becomes Light or Hikari. Since his surname is Hikari...he could very well be related to Netto's family. Maybe not directly, but somehow. |
Errrr, what the heck are you talking about? Hikari Raito has nothing to do with Ryuusei no Rockman. Hikari Raito is Hikari Netto's son. The main character of Ryuusei no Rockman is Hoshikawa Subaru...
Quote: | Now I have another question. Since you've explained that WarRock merges with Subaru, does that mean his merged form is the "navi" form he takes on when he "Waves In" or does he look like WarRock? I can only go from what pics I've seen and all I've seen is the main character looking like a human merged with a navi. This is getting very TRON-ish. (No, not Tron Bonn ) [/spoil:48a5e467bf] Thanks again! ^_^ |
Ryuusei no Rockman is the character you've seen all over the place...ie the human wearing blue armor. WarRock is the creature on his left arm. _________________ ~DrkX (Resident over-sexed camera-whore & Facebook zombie.)
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JunkmanSP Colonel of Junking up
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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There seems to be some kind of new character or campaign thing named
Legend Master Shin(Aparently it's Masukazu Eguchi's new avatar in the series) Seems he'll basically fill the same role as Meijin did in the EXE series. _________________ Here's lookin' at you kid. |
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Unknown Neo Cross Fusion!
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Cool. Famous for a new era. I wonder if real Mejin will dress as him. |
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DrkXFuZion Soul Unison
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Legend Master Shin is the man who stands on top of Amaken and sells you your Legend Force for 3000Z. The event that was just mentioned, Wave Masters 2007, involves having a representative of Capcom adding LM Shin to your Brother Band. He starts off at level 35 at which he grants HP+45, GigaClass+1, and his Favorites are Invisible, Recovery200, RadarMissile2, DragonSkyEX, LeoKingdomEX, and PegasusMagicEX. He has no Brother Force Best Combo listed.
...not really great...you're better off having a Level 100 Dragon player since MegaClass+1 is more useful than GigaClass+1 in this game unless you're also a Dragon player. Giga cards are rather "blah" in this game. _________________ ~DrkX (Resident over-sexed camera-whore & Facebook zombie.)
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Sketch The Boy who is Very Sart
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: |
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I don't think he takes any zenny in exchange for his services, I've gotten like...5 cards from him at one time and my zenny never went down. _________________
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