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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Official Rockman ZX Advent Discussion Thread! *Spoilers?* Reply with quote

So, yeah I didn't see a thread for Advent, so I decided to make one. It seems we don't have any details other then the name. So, discuss?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's...rather difficult to discuss something when all you have is the name. Confused Speculation time, then!

I think it's possible, though highly unlikely, that new Biometals will be based off of bosses from the Zero series. Why them? Because they already used up all the main characters in the first game, so what else is there?

Either that or they'll tweak the existing Biometals so that they'll be stronger (Px for example was awesome, but didn't really have much tactical value) and let you start the game with them, or cause something to happen to make you lose all the Biometals and force you to reclaim them, similar to Metroid. The latter makes the most sense, but Capcom has surprised us before.

Oh yeah, and they'll fix the map system, that's pretty much the one complaint everyone has.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may not even star the current cast of the series. It could be just a bunch of new people using all new bio metals for all we know...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if they plan to release the game this next July, so to follow suit with its predecessor, and have the US version a few months ahead. I sure hope so!



...looking at it this way, RockmanZX "2" would come out even BEFORE Megaman StarForce "1" comes out in the US... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know but hopefully it'll have some metals as good or better the PX and HX. Kunai spamming and great movement rules.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to unstick the ZX one and stick this one in it's place.

So, scans came out yesterday...Rockman Model A...possibly Axl?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...I hope one of the two characters is Female. I'm gonna miss Aile ;_;

Edit: Well, One of the two Characters, Ashe certainly does look like a girl....hopefully, it isn't the case like it was with Giroutte ^.^
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt that thing stands for Axl. The only simularity I can see at the moment is the dual guns. Other than that, it looks more like Zero Series Zero than anything else.

I hope we learn a lot more about Pandora and Prometheus, as it looks like they will have a very big role this time around. I wonder what happened to Vent and Aile though...

BTW, Prometheus looks even more insane and awesome in his new official art.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ComicX6 wrote:
I doubt that thing stands for Axl. The only simularity I can see at the moment is the dual guns. Other than that, it looks more like Zero Series Zero than anything else.


...despite the fact that the Live Metal Model A itself looks a lot like Axl's head.

"Model Advent" would make more sense but...the similarity to Axl's head is way too strong.

I hope we learn a lot more about Pandora and Prometheus, as it looks like they will have a very big role this time around. I wonder what happened to Vent and Aile though...

Homing Shot and Lock On mode look totally kickass...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also want to know. Plus those do look cool. I do hope to know about the two from the last game. Do they have biometals? And which?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are scans? where?!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The first post. I also gave an explanation of the actions in the game. There's a tidbit about Live Metal Model V but I'm having a hard time reading it. :/

...and a Live Metal for Vent and Aile would seem silly as they don't exactly possess any powers on their own. >.>
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

- A mysterious ability: Rockman Model A can assume the form of fallen enemy Repliroids?

Okay this is WAY too many similarities now. I'm fairly sure that will work quite like the models from ZX, as in you defeat a boss and you get its "model", this time just they don't exist physically and it's all model A's work...
I just don't see any clear reference to Axl's helmet in this model, sure the body has a very similar color scheme, but that's all there is to it body-wise. This model just looks like a Rockman experiment.

Probably model A was a prototype work of Ciel's when trying to make model X, copy shot ability included, just gotten out of hand? <_< That'd explain a lot.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, after reading a bit more, I'm changing mu tune. Now I believe that it is possible that the Model is Axl, but until more info arises, I'm not gonna be 100% sure.

Now, something I've been curious about: why do so many fans absolutely detest Axl? I can understand hating X7 as a game, but why him? It's not his fault that Capcom royally screwed his introduction over. I heard that he was fine in Command Mission and Paradise Lost (subtitle of XCool.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. So Model A can change forms? Like having the different metals from the first game? And I'm guessing grey is a lot like aile from game 1. Since he's a "failed experiment".
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ComicX6 wrote:
Okay, after reading a bit more, I'm changing mu tune. Now I believe that it is possible that the Model is Axl, but until more info arises, I'm not gonna be 100% sure.

Now, something I've been curious about: why do so many fans absolutely detest Axl? I can understand hating X7 as a game, but why him? It's not his fault that Capcom royally screwed his introduction over. I heard that he was fine in Command Mission and Paradise Lost (subtitle of X8 ).


I happen to be one of those Axl-detesters, and I have to say that I don't hate him, I just don't like his inclusion among the "legendary" characters of X and Zero. X and Zero are special because they were the first two reploids, they're the most powerful, and they were created by the scientists of the Classic era. All throughout the X series (and the Zero series for that matter) they were key to all the story events because they carried that legacy with them. All of a sudden, 7 games into the series, Axl shows up out of the blue and automatically gets included in this inner circle. I, as well as many others, said "What the hell?" and tried to ignore him as much as we could, hoping he'd go away.

Yes, he filled a bit of a better role in Command Mission. But one of the reasons he's annoying is that in X7 he took away a number of the qualities that made X significant in a fight, having X's proficiency with ranged attacks as well as being faster and more agile. Really all X had left was his Charged Shot, and as an X fan, that bugged the hell out of me.

Placing Axl as the primary Live Metal in Advent won't deter me from actually buying the game, since ZX has got to be one of Capcom's best platformers to date. But they better have a pretty freakin good reason for him to be in the limelight here when he's been completely absent from the entire Zero series.

Edit: Here's a freaky thing that just occurred to me. Advent might be considered a side game (like Megaman and Bass) as it isn't titled ZX 2. While it'd certainly be unusual to do as the second game in a series, it might be Capcom's way of filling us in on what's been going on with Axl during the Zero series (like how he ended up as a Live Metal) and giving us some insight into Pandora and Promethius, as they don't seem to be antagonists this time around. We may just see a ZX 2 with Vent and Aile, during which Grey and/or Ashe may show up. Is it really unlikely? You bet. But it's definitely something to consider, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correction: X and Zero are not Repliroids...Zero is just a really powerful robot and X is the first robot to have a complete free will (as well as really powerful...)

Repliroids are based on X, hence the name being a portmanteau. Repliroid = Replicate Android. >.>

And I'm pretty sure Pandora and Prometheus are your enemies as well. Definitely Prometheus and I can't see Pandora as neutral either.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Model A looks more like a re-reinterpreted Axl than a Zero. Far too little red, for one thing. Keep in mind Inti redesigned the cast for MMZ, and redesigned those again for ZX. So this is like Axl, twice removed from MMX8.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh my God, Prometheus looks freakin' AWESOME.

Anyways, yeah, I'm definitely saying it's probably a Model A (Twin Guns, Slightly Purple-ish, Pseudo-Copy Shot, Model Design? Come on, that's gotta be Axl.) Which is nice, since I liked Axl, personally, and it'll be pretty interesting to run around the stages like that.

I am a little bummed at no Aile from the looks of things, but hopefully there'll be a good reason for that.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bah!

Axl and everything past X5 shoulda never happened! As much as I loved X8, why couldn't they just stick to the less plothole'd universe of no X6 and up? D:

I'm really hoping it's not Axl, rather a biometal that's a new thing all together. They never said biometal was made from the remains of reploids ya know.
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