Ryuusei and the rolling thing.

Zepper · Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 20 Location: Brazil

(possible spoilers and English faults)

- This new anime isn't so bad, but still doesn't match the old Rockman.EXE anime. Yes, I like it a lot and the following things have no intention of dropping anything. It's just a few points I'd like to share with everyone, in hope to discuss the Ryusei no Rockman episodes a bit deeper.

1. Why "Ryusei no Rockman"? From what I know, the 'creatures' from FM planet can move through the universe freely... like a comet? Nope, they move through radio waves and invisible... Unless you take Subaru's glasses, right? Anyway, a poor choice in my opinion.

2. War-Rock... already meaning "war" as default? He looks like a traitor, but not much is detailed or spoiled. Most of info is showed on episode 1.

3. The "replacement" for the old ACDC Town guys is very "weak". They're not included in most episodes, or with a weak joining... -_-;; Simply, they don't own the same kind of personality as Meiru, Yaito and the rest of that dudes, plus the same bonds of friendship with Subaru, as Netto did. All I see is that "inspector gadget"-like policeman chasing Subaru like crazy. -_-;;

4. Was Capcom doing some kind of promotion for the anime when playing the main theme during episode 17? o.O That battle against the Gemini guys was... ridiculous.

JH24 · Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:41 am Post subject:

Personally I like the Rockman-exe series better as well but on the other hand I have the feeling that this series is still establishing itself and I hope the series (it is already quite good IMHO) will become better with the development of the storyline.

1. I can't answer that question, maybe it will be explained in future episodes.

2. To be honest, I still don't entirely know what to think of him. He does seem like a nice guy with good intentions, but for now I guess it is hard to tell what his background is. It is possible he is a traitor (I am not saying he is), but he could have done it because he believed he had no other choice. Or maybe he has selfish motives, who knows. His name could imply that he is a soldier of some sort. But I guess that for now it is all speculation. Also, my knowledge of the series is not really great.

3. I agree, but we must keep in mind that we haven't seen them that much and the serie is relatively young. I hope that as the serie progresses, the characters will grow and develop as well. I do like that "inspector gadget" character, he seems like a honest man to me. His real name is Goyoda, as far as I know.

4. I personally liked it to hear the song in an episode itself. The battle against Gemini was, despite a lot of still-shots (well-drawn though) pretty exciting and enjoyable to watch IMHO. What the reason was for playing the song in an episode, I don't really know. Maybe the writers thought it would fit in.
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**Sketch** · Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject:

Not EVERY FM is an enemy, in the games, Cancer Bubble, Wolf Forest, and Crown Thunder are approachable for battle anytime. It's unknown how they get their FM partners but...they're not evil.
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DanSidney · Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject:

I like the name of the series. "Ryuusei no Rockman", the Rockman of the shooting star. If you play the game, it makes much more sense since almost everything in there is somehow related to the stars. And anyway, it's quite self-explainatory. It's "a Rockman" coming from the outer space, and what better could come from outer space like a falling star? Also don't forget that "falling stars" are known to grant wishes. :3

WarRock is just a name so to have Subaru become Rock-Man. Razz

Like Harp + Misora becomes Harp-Note, WarRock + Subaru becomes Rock-Man. :p

The chars so far aren't explained in a lot of depth. Don't forget you had Meiru, Enzan, Dekao, Yaito and the rest of the bunch for 4 whole series, while Ryuusei has just aired for 19 episodes up until now... :p More character traits will be revealed as the plot advances. And as how the series will unfold with its sequels. :D

Your point about self-promotion just makes no sense by itself, or at least I'm not sure I understand it so I'll skip it.

In all honesty Ryuusei is quicky growing on me as my favorite series. Because it drifts off from the usual anime scheme of the four-friends with the guy with a crush on the girl, the gruff guy that always hangs with the small kid, and all the stereotypes. Although this anime has the same stereotypes, they all behave very differently from what we expect, Subaru and WarRock themselves are unlike what one would expect out of a Rockman anime. :3
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Unknown Neo · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject:

I'm not that found of kizamaru. Gonta's ok since he has an FM sometimes. But what does kizamaru do? Anything?

DrkXFuZion · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject:

Crimson Seiko · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Ryusei and the rolling thing.

Zepper · Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 20 Location: Brazil

1. Is "Ryuusei" or "Ryusei"? Those torrents bring "Ryusei", like a few topics from here.

2. No clues about War-Rock origins. He hasn't a constellation like the others, right? I'm thinking to see "War" as a short form of "Warrior"... what do you think about it? ^_^

3. Those school-guys are not involved in the story like the Rockman.EXE chars were in the beginning. I didn't mean the same behavior OR the same bounds of friendship but... it was MERELY a comparison, since I wouldn't like "copies" of them. -_-;;

4. Do you remember the moments from Axess where the main theme plays (Futatsu no Mirai)? Yes, this same thing has occurred on episode 17. I have no better words to explain then...

Dark Lord Zenigame · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject:

Eh, I have to say that the general quality of this show so far is a lot higher than that of the old EXE anime. It may not have as many interesting side characters than EXE, but it makes up for that in that its protagonists are far better than Netto and Rockman, at least in my eyes.

Subaru is neither stupid nor an uberbadass. That's really rare to see in a shounen anime/manga protagonist.

Misora's also an improvement over Meiru in my opinion, seeing as how she's somethig more than the usual "fated love interest" character for once.

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DanSidney · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:37 am Post subject:

Sorry to break this down to you, but the manga is not a very valuable source.

I mean, it even had Ox Fire become a friend of WarRock after saving a puppy.... and I didn't see this anywhere in the anime or in the game...
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ComicX6 · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:39 am Post subject:

I dunno, maybe because he's never called himself that in the canon sources? (not meant to sound arrogant)

Besides, 'Ryuusei no Rockman' is kind along winded for a name, even if it's just an alias. Rockman is much more concise and easy to say.
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DrkXFuZion · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:43 am Post subject:

That's why it's called as a full name. No one likes full names, hence why Subaru will call War Rock as "Rock". The same goes with Netto and Rockman in the manga. Rockman is always called as "Rock" (or Rock-kun by Roll). People don't say "Rockman X", just X. "Sage Harpuia", "Fairy Leviathan", Fighting Fefnir"...no one uses the full title. Full names/titles AREN'T obligatory so it shouldn't even be that big of a deal.

Ugh, I'm pretty sure there's one point in the story where the full title is used as well. >.>
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Enzan Chaud · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:53 am Post subject:

If I recall correctly Subaru was actually going to call him self "Rokku--mmm---" the man just came in because someone thought they heard it... I think
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Crimson Seiko · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject:

I don't know if anyone previously answered the question regarding "Ryuusei" or "Ryusei" (one or two U's), but basically... it's either. The "U" sound in the title is a long "u"... literally, it's "Ryuusei," but those kinds of things are often shortened to just "Ryusei"... like Dekao's surname, "Ooyama," often being written as "Oyama"... or Yuuichirou to "Yuichiro." If you want to get super-technical, you need a bar over the vowel to be completely accurate, but either Ryuusei or Ryusei are correct. I use Ryusei for the simple fact that all of the official sources (Capcom, Xebec) do when naming their files.

I didn't mean to stir up so much trouble regarding Rockman's full name, and I'm not trying to prod it along more... but I haven't seen evidence passed "I think"'s... so I still ask someone provide me with something more concrete. I'm not doubting that his name could be "Ryusei no Rockman," but for informative purposes, I want something a bit more concrete is all, and any medium (manga, games, anime) is valid.

(And don't argue that one medium isn't "canon." As we've seen with EXE, all three mediums have their own storylines altogether and don't interact outside of concepts and characters. The manga isn't canon to the games or anime, but likewise, the anime isn't canon to the games or manga, and the games aren't canon to the anime or manga. They're separate entities and all valid sources depending on the subject matter.)
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