Rockman instead of MegaMan?

Zepper · Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 20 Location: Brazil

(possible english flaws)
- Well, it's better MegaMan than RainbowMan. Smile

Anyway, it's time for Capcom to make a decision regarding the "Mega" adaption on Rockman series. I believe that "Mega" designs an american production from the original Rockman, edited. Well, I'm unsure how familiar the "kids" are when finding the Rockman word. Do they know it's the japanese version?

- Anyway, going straight to the point. It's time for Capcom to end up the "Mega" replacement. New stuff is popping up and this adaption sounds funny in many cases, as "War-Mega" instead of "War-Rock", and the "old" M.E.G.A. thing instead of the original R.O.C.K. transformation. Come on, we're no more in the (good) NES times of Rockman/MegaMan, where this change wasn't so bad after all... As small note, Capcom have done this if you consider the logo. They're using the japanese logo, but still written "Megaman". It was started, if I'm not wrong, with MegaMan X7.

- Plus, what's SO wrong with the japanese music? With the modern videogame systems, why not dual-audio, as english-japanese switchable? Sad

LBD_Nytetrayn · Net Agent Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 244 Location: Toronto

1) "Mega Man" is a well-known, established brand in the US and around the world, and switching to "Rockman," which I'm sure many of the more casual gamers and fans may be unaware of as the Japanese name, could really wreck things.

Koji Igarashi tried to globalize the "Castlevania" name by switching to that in Japan to match the rest of the world, so he could do more without directly involving Dracula. Big backlash, and it lasted for all of one or two titles before returning to it's original Dracula-themed moniker.

Plus, more people would be inclined to think of stones and boulders with a name like Rockman.

2) If anything, given the rest of the world, maybe they should change it to Mega Man, which works better in most cases. I haven't heard that "War Rock" is going to become "War Mega," (rather, "Warlock," a pretty close approximation of the Japanese name) but Rockman has become quite silly a name, in my opinion.

It was used as a pun in the names of the first two robots of the series, and had NOTHING at all to do with anything beyond that until MM3, when they decided to continue the theme with Blues and Rush, and later with the likes of Beat, Forte, and Gospel. But otherwise and before then, "rock" had NOTHING to do with the character. He's not in a band, you never see him listening to it, he never does a single thing that relates to rock and roll in any way, shape, or form that I can remember seeing.

Really, calling him "Rockman" in reference to stone and boulders and such makes more sense, in regards to his power, strength, and courage. The character is rather "like a rock" in those regards, and probably feels just as hard were a normal person to take a shot.

And straight downhill from there. I prefer the seperation of "Rock" with Roll and "Mega Man" in the original series. But after that, the name makes less and less sense, only being a carryover of a joke. "Mega Man" at least implies something relevant to the characters.

It isn't until Legends that the name really works at all again, thanks to Roll, and I think that they should have called him Rock, until either a) he discovers his past, or b) let the media call him "MegaMan," after driving off the Bonnes.

Battle Network presents an odd scenario, in that it links Rockman/MegaMan.EXE to Roll, who has no relation to him. If there's an explanation for that, I'd love to hear it.

So, those are my thoughts on the subject.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"
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Nenji · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:14 am Post subject:

People can fall in love and have crushes without having back-stories that cause incest. :/

Roll likes Rock, Meiru like Netto, it's really that simple.
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Enzan Chaud · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:04 am Post subject:

The Rock and Roll pun is cute, R.O.C.K. on was also a good pun, and Rock is a recurring name in anime, but Mega really makes no difference when you compare it to anything other than the puns. In regards to your question as to why it's "Mega", Inafune hasn't complained about it at all, so I don't see why anyone else would.
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DanSidney · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject:

I think he meant the "Rock and Roll" pun instead of "Megaman and Roll".

Also "R.O.C.K. on" sounds much cooler than "M.E.G.A. on". Those are the puns he meant. Although even if not in a pun-istic way, they still serve their purpose.
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Unknown Neo · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject:

Plus isn't rock the first megaman's "real name". Since he was made by doc. light his name would be rock light and his title would be megaman.
But they wouldn't change the name of the whole series. That would take too much trouble.

Rock Miyabi · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject:

Well, I think LBD summed up most of my thoughts. Although personally, just because Rock doesn't do anything rock related and Roll not having the power to roll round objects at the baddies doesn't bother me much. Odd, but not as odd as some of the anime name changes to me. Like I believe Inafune said in the anniversary collection video, the Rock and Roll naming has more to do with the series having what he hoped would be memorable music than anything (although that's really paraphrasing). And also, as already stated, we do see Megaman called "Rock" in the US, so I don't personally think a unified change is really necessary. It might be more damaging to the US marketing and sales than anything. Sure, I didn't know when I first played a Megaman game that it was called Rockman in Japan, but I kinda like calling him by either name anymore.

Don't exactly know what you're talking about with the Japanese music though, Zepper. I believe the soundtracks to the games are nearly exactly the same, with the exception of a few J-pop intros/endings and whatnot throughout the course of the many series. In the anime there is a dramatic difference, but not in the games.
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Zepper · Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 20 Location: Brazil

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**PlaguedOne** · Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:10 am Post subject:

I like the term "Rockman" for all series. As events in ZX and DASH would seem to confirm, the name "Rockman" has evolved far past just a pun. Rockman is now a title of honor and power. Those who used the live metals were called Rockmen. Juno and Trigger in DASH were both titled a Rockman. I think the same applies to Zero for the Zero series. He is a strong and heroic character deserving of the title.

Well, that's my take on it. "Megaman" has come to feel rather generic, to me.
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Zepper · Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 20 Location: Brazil

- I like the original, not the dubbed. ^_^ There's a "huge" difference between nipponic and american cultures. Just watch that USA cartoon Mega Man and the Rockman.EXE, and I don't mean classic mode x EXE mode strictly.

- Anyway, it's clear that most of guys like the "Mega Man" label instead of "Rockman". As Inafune said to dislike the "Mega Man" form, you're saying the same for the "Rockman" form... ^_^;;

Shakai · Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject:

Oyy, for the last time, it's Megamerge, not Mega on. But they kinda screwed that up when they didn't bother dubbing ZX, and just left it as "Rock on!" leaving millions of non-web-surfers bewildered and confused.

I agree with Pyo about Rockman being a title of honor, but Megaman works just as well for me. Rockman or megaman, Aile/Vent's still a hero. It doesn't matter much to me.

As for Rockman.exe, Rockman and Roll does seem kinda...off...but I despise that series' dub.

As for Star Force? They're gonna have a tough time explaining how Subaru's hero name will be "Megaman" if War Rock's name is "Warlock" XD

Never got far in Legends/Dash, so I'll leave that alone.
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Abiisan · Net Agent Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 285 Location: Midwest

I really liked the music theme, particularly Rock and Roll, but I can understand why Rockman as the name of a non rock-based hero would have more trouble over here. I had always been fine with it being a reference to his steadfastness and will as someone else said, but more people will appreciate a word like Mega than Rock in the US
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