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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shakai wrote:
As well, one of them said something like "Gemini tou Harp" referring to Gemini and Harp as...someone not going with their plans I guess? I believe that's the case.
Close enough.
Gemini - nobody knows what he's up to.
Harp - as Harp Note acts like she's on Warrock's side most of the time

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I mean, if my translation of their speech, in my head of course, is correct then Utagai plays a bigger role instead of being Cygnus' puppet.
From what I can gather, right now Utagai IS Cygnus.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I'm a little so-so on Shingo Adachi's style when it comes to Amachi (his face is a little too rounded in my opinion, makes him look boyish but this is just personal taste) he did a fantastic job conveying the emotions in that encounter atop the roof.

Plus, Ox trying to Denpa henkan with the good inspector had some hilarious results.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nenji wrote:
Ox trying to Denpa henkan with the good inspector had some hilarious results.
HULK SMASH!

sorry. couldn't resist Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was oh so very tempted to say that, but I've used the reference a bit much lately and decided to leave it to someone else. [:D
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, the ending was very well done. In terms of animation, emotional impact, voice-acting, just very well done IMO.


It is interesting to see the division between the FM's, especially regarding what Gemini might be planning.

I wanted to take a break from the series so I could focus more on the subs because I still feel I know too little of the series and characters but after seeing the past two episodes, I am not so sure anymore.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor Warrock....*sniffles* Crying or Very sad

Why are you so mean to poor warrock, Subaru-sama! Shame on you!
Evil or Very Mad *whacks Subaru*

Man I feel really sorry for Warrock. If he did this, he probably didn't mean it. He probably just wanted to be friends with Subaru. Darn it, Cyngus! You had to say something you jerk! Evil or Very Mad

(Just my opinion Razz Don't brick me for being silly, I'm on a sugar rush Twisted Evil )
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But here's the thing: Cygnus was telling the truth. He may have been exaggerating it or blowing it out of proportion to get Subaru to lower his guard, but it was true. WarRock himself confirmed it.
In that respect, Subaru has every right to be angry at WarRock.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Due to what Subaru did in that episode I hate him even more, he trusts an evil swan *** over his own partner that saved his life more then once.

And well, *removed the wrong info to prevent confusion*

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Subaru did is absolutely understandable.

What would you do if someone you've spent a relatively short time with turned out to be your father's murderer, or at least acknowledged that he commanded an assault that presumably led to your father's death?

It's not just a matter of trusting Cygnus. Subaru went and flat-out asked WarRock WTF went down on that station.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had never expected that the series would take this direction regarding the storyline. When re-watching this episode I started to feel sympathy for Warrock as well. He definitely shows that he cares about Subaru as he warned Amachi about the boy's situation. When Subaru started yelling at him at the end I felt really sorry for both of them.

I am still wondering why Warrock couldn't tell Subaru about what really happened. Why did he remain silent when Subaru asked him again what exactly took place on the space station? If Subaru's father was still alive, what kind of motive would Warrock have not to talk about it? Or maybe Warrock has made some kind of promise to Subaru's dad. I have difficulty believing that Daigo would really be dead. I better stop speculating, the possibilities are endless.


Why did Warrock end the conversation? Was it because he noticed that Amachi was listening to their conversation?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JH24 wrote:
Why did Warrock end the conversation? Was it because he noticed that Amachi was listening to their conversation?
I noticed that, too. That's why I mentioned when Amachi entered the scene in my translation of their conversation.
Whether or not that was the case, it wasn't clear.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted to thank you for the translation of the final scene, Numbergirl. After I watched the episode again your translation made the emotional impact even bigger for me.


I start to get the feeling that Warrock might have ended the conversation because he felt Amachi was nearby. As you said it wasn't clear but Warrock was in the middle of the sentence when he stopped.

It makes me wonder if he would have told the truth if Amachi hadn't shown up in time. Subaru's reaction was so emotional, he was torn between anger and sadness because of the 'betrayal' of his close friend and that he now believes his father is probably really dead.

The music gave the whole scene even more impact. It is a long time ago that a Ryusei episode impressed me as much as this one. I like this eppie even more then the one with the battle before.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I feel that WarRock ended the conversation because Subaru couldn't take much more. Subaru it seemed was already emotionally traumatized, and WarRock didn't want to hurt Subaru any further.
But that's just my opinion. WarRock didn't seem to give any indication that he knew Amachi was there.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AGF-Antoine wrote:

Warrock just locked Subaru's dad up since he fused with Andromeda.


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Ummmmmm, no he didn't...

I thought I already explained this... in order to save Daigo from the attack, whom he had become friends with, Daigo begged War-Rock to convert him and his crew into pure Denpa. War Rock had a great deal of trouble with this as he felt that if he did such a thing, Daigo would not be able to change back, or worse...he could kill Daigo. At least that's what happens in the game.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, then I was wrong Laughing

Ah well, everyone makes mistakes.

I never played the game and didn't see the anime subbed Embarassed

Anyways, you made it clear to me whats the case.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really do lose a lot when you can't understand everything. But it was a great episode.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still, what AFG said will probably be the explanation they'll use when Ryuusei gets dubbed.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's more prudent to wait until the dub debuts before making comments like that. It's still very unlikely that Daigo's dead.
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