View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
Midnight This is a Hilbert Space
Age: 37 Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 3089 Location: The AfterMath. Otherwise, New York City.
|
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Malik wrote: | Tied into the media and mainstream, people are generally afraid of being different. For males, the mainstream is "manly" factor. It's hard for me to explain, but going with what HeatShadow said, those males are afraid of the "feminine" male. They can't connect with them for whatever reason, and would rather keep conformity. |
It makes me recall a quote from the Simpsons: "Never say anything unless you are absolutely sure that everyone thinks the same way that you do." Homer may have been poking fun at the unwritten social "code" of the schoolyard, but that portion seems to have credence in society. People fear change and differences from the norm, and it is those differences that some people tease out and explode into greater proportions, and that leads to bias. It happened with the slaves when they were first brought over from work, and now we have deep-seated racism prevalent in some places. Gender bias is no different. _________________ Today, these three players are after Big Bucks! But they'll have to avoid the Whammy, as they play the most exciting game of their lives! From Television City in Hollywood! It's time to 'Press Your Luck!'--Rod Roddy
The Kingdom of Loathing: An Adventurer is You! // I ♣ Seals
Avatar by Spork. I very much appreciate it! <3 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Unknown Neo Cross Fusion!
Age: 40 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 2933 Location: Unknown
|
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
That does sound like a little BS Malik, I use emotions for a lot of things. I just don't have a lot of reasons for some emotions. Anyway, women can do things that seperate from emotions too. And I've heard of guys being raped. I saw it on a law show real quick once. It happens. Like that old joke about jail. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Izumi darenimo wakaranai
Age: 41 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1002331 Location: Osaka
|
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Unknown Neo wrote: | And I've heard of guys being raped. I saw it on a law show real quick once. It happens. Like that old joke about jail. |
If you think it's an old "joke", then you obviously haven't read any true-life accounts of jail time. _________________ One of the three EXE sisters! *Armstrong-style pose*
avatar by caramell_dansen |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Plantman It's only Forever... Not long at all!
Age: 44 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1819 Location: Mexico
|
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Unknown Neo wrote: |
Actually yes. I'd wouldn't be able to find anything that isn't so that would bother me. It'd probably be the same thing and so, it'd get a similar to slightly lessened reaction, |
Do you realize that 80% of your answers make no sense and you're spitting an answer for the sake of doing it?
This answer made no sense, said nothing, and brought absolutely nothing new to the conversation. Exactly the same happens with your answer to Malik.
It's not BS, btw. It's just proving you aren't reading carefuly what's being said before you answer for the sake of answering. It's part of the male nature/development/way their mind works; to be emotionally dettached during some activities.
It's been field of study about the way the male brains operate. The majority of males are a lot more methodical for some things, they get the job done without emotionaly involving themselves into their task.
An exercise tested men in the task of changing the diaper of a baby. They were given the instructions and procedure and left alone with a camera and the baby to change the diaper. Most of the tested males concentrated in changing the diaper and completely ignored or avoided any involvement with the infant whose diaper they were changing. Once their task was done, they stepped back from the infant. Only one man talked to the baby and played with him even after getting his diaper changed.
When the same exercise was applied to a group of women, the women were playing, talking to and interacting with the baby while changing the diaper, thus emotionaly involving themselves with the child, they reacted to the reactions of the baby and once the diaper was changed most of time they picked the baby and played/interacted with it even further.
What malik said it's true. It's not that men are emotionless and have no emotional reaction to events and actions involving them. However, the average male brain is more likely to act with an emotional detachment, while it's prone to focus and involve more into performing a task and excell at it.
Women tend to have a more emotional reaction to things. And isn't a question of 'sexism' or 'gender bias' alone, it's the way our brains have developed into over the years. _________________ Hecha en MÉXICO - Avatar by Me.
"Logic is the Ultimate Weapon." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Nenji Nenjiro ja ne!
Age: 37 Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1535 Location: South...of the North Pole!
|
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I would have to disagree if your argument is based on the previous example Planty. What you've demonstrated is that women have a stronger maternal instinct. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the point over all, but that evidence isn't a good indicator.
However, I can't really add more to this particular vector of the discussion, enjoying art and being involved in it's production; inevitably I have to add emotional attachment to things to create that emotion in the picture of music I'm performing. _________________
Previously known as "HiKaizer" |
|
Back to top |
|
|
HeatShadow Hydralisk Specialist
Age: 37 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 864 Location: Hidden within shadows....or under the table.
|
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:27 am Post subject: |
|
|
Actually, Planty's point of men being emotionally detached does make quite a bit of sense.
When I play a video game, watch movie or read a book, I tend to get emotionally involved with the characters in the story. (I'm a guy by the way, which means I would probably fall into the minority of sensitive guys) A friend of mine, however, tends to remain emotionally detached from such stories; he'll insult them and make fun of them when they're doing poorly or doing something awkward, and only praises them if they're doing exceptionally well. While he admits that he mostly does this jokingly, I have observed him doing this unconsciously often (even going so far as to use language I won't repeat here).
Indeed, I've noticed similar behavior among many of my male friends, while I've noticed many female friends developing emotional attachments to characters.
So yes, I do believe there's quite a bit of truth to Planty's statement. Actually, now that I think about it, it has alot to do with each genders' reaction to gays. Because the average man lacks an emotional attachment to others, he thinks only of himself, which probably explains his fear of gays. The average woman, on the other hand, can see through her emotional attachments that gays and lesbians are, despite their differences, still people and thus not unlike herself. In other words, she can put herself in their shoes and see that they don't really deserve to be shunned or feared. _________________ Stuck In The Middle With You; a Metroid and Halo crossover
Devil May Cry: Renegades |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Plantman It's only Forever... Not long at all!
Age: 44 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1819 Location: Mexico
|
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
That was just one of the examples, but was the one that directly had to do with emotional dettachment from males.
Notice your example has to deal with emotional attachment put into 'something' not 'someone'. Your emotional attachment is towards something you enjoy, doesn't directly have to do with your reaction towards someone else's reactions to your actions.
A woman is more likely to be affected by someone else's opinion or attitude towards her, a woman is more likely to find offense at something you say. And a woman ultimately is more likely to have an emotional reaction to things. And a woman is more likely to hold a grudge if you say the "wrong thing."
Notice I never said, and Malik either, that men cannot have an emotional attachment, but that it's less likely they'll want to involve into emotional attachment past a task/job/work. IE - You can be very emotionaly attached to your art or music, but could be very hard for you to relate with school mates, girl friends, relatives, etc. (Notice this is an example, not saying you're like that.) Some Males can be more emotionally attached than others. Just like there's females that can be very emotionally dettached too. _________________ Hecha en MÉXICO - Avatar by Me.
"Logic is the Ultimate Weapon." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Unknown Neo Cross Fusion!
Age: 40 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 2933 Location: Unknown
|
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I meant people use it as a joke. But yeah, I did not understand what I put in that quote. I feel kind of sorry I did. But I do get kind of drawn into things. If I'm not splitting my focus. Some movies, games, and things I read I can get more involved with it. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Kenshiro1119 Guest
|
Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:43 am Post subject: |
|
|
My parents are the meaning of Double-Standard, and my grandparents surpass them. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
Bluetab template design by FF8Jake of FFD
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
|