Food For Thought; Global Warming

HeatShadow · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: Food For Thought; Global Warming

http://www.break.com/index/tough-to-argue.html

Got a spare 10 minutes? Good, because the guy in this video has something to say about global warming and it's worth hearing. Spread it around, get other people to watch it. Not only is he a pretty good speaker, but he's got a pretty good argument too.

Or does he? What do you think?

DISCUSS.
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Dougurasu · Net Agent Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 242

I think his argument is pretty sound, but there's an even worse worst case scenario. What happens if we DO something about it and Global Warming is true and we CAN'T stop it.
I'm defenitely not saying we shouldn't combat global warming, I believe it's there and that we should do something about it, but con-people are gonna use that argument, that we can better sit back and do nothing cause we can't stop it anyway. Pretty weak argument tho, but yeah. So instead of having a no possibility of global change in the first column, we still have a chance of that, even tho it's smaller than in column B.
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Nenji · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:49 am Post subject:

Whether you believe, or disbelieve Global Warming exists there's still good reasons for going green as a race. Green alternatives are usually renewable, and also are better for the environment.

I believe that Global Climate Change is most definitely occurring. I cannot say to what extent though, there's so many different opinions and reasons for different levels of severity that I'm just confused.
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Heliumbunny · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:12 am Post subject:

Here's what I think about global warming:
It might be happenning, but I don't really care. What makes people think that we have the perfect climate right now? Maybe it's changing for the better.
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**Sol** · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:01 am Post subject:

Heliumbunny:

If it is changing, it's certainly not for the better.

For example, ice caps around the world are steadily melting, and they've been standing for hundreds of years, if not thousands. Fish populations in certain spots are either decreasing or vanished completely, mainly because the waters they lived in are getting too warm. And who knows what else around the world is changing because of climate change?

I'm not saying to care about it, since it's not good to worry about, but you should keep it in mind.
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Midnight · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:06 am Post subject:

Dougurasu · Net Agent Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 242

I think this whole issue is part of a much larger encompassing problem. The whole human race is stupid and does not care. We're talking about people of which probably 20 percent willingly takes in poison (Smoking, and even though it's not instantaniously killing, it still should be considered poison) of which a huge number of people likes to get drunk and lose control over their own body. We wait for Hurricane Katrina to hit and only AFTER that do we take measures. We use fossil fuels knowing the fact that once we're out we're going to have to exploit something else. We're exploiting animals and breeding them so we can eat them. We're not even catching animals anymore, we're freaking making sure that animals get born only so we can eat them.

The human race is a race of selfish bloody idiots. To hell that we're intelligent, we're a money-driven stupid people. Alright of course not everyone is like that. And most of it isn't the fault of people living here right now, but dude, we're one sick race if you think about it.

lol as a disclaimer, I by no means wasn't trying to offend anyone in particulair. Smile

In fact most of the blame probably doesn't even fall on us, I think a lot of the people on Earth try to live their lives the best as they can, but that's not to say we can't do anything about it :p Okay, I'm done talking now.
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**Tabby** · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject:

This makes me wish that we'd run out of fossil fuels faster, that way we'll be forced into using more green energy. Since, alot of people's stances are "if it isn't broken, don't fix it"
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Rock Miyabi · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I don't think there's really any way you can say the climate is changing for the better, Heliumbunny. There is only so much of a temperature increase the human body can take. Example today, here in Minnesota, it's the 4th straight day of 90 degree temps. And we're in a pollution warning again. For the average healthy person, probably not going to notice any difference other than it being warm out. But for people with respiratory conditions, young children and the elderly, the added CO2 in the air makes it potentially deadly. And we aren't exactly high on the polluted air list like Los Angeles or other cities typically are. But I actually did feel kinda weird breathing when I was mowing the lawn yesterday evening...

Lakes are definitely being affected. Lake Superior has been steadily decreasing at an alarming rate according to some recent studies. Saw a report on the news last night that some divers/researchers are worried about added erosion it's causing after winter freezes and spring thaws, which is affecting the shipping industry up there this year.

And as far as using up the fossil fuels, well, as long as a bunch of rich people control them and governments do nothing but *wink wink nudge nudge* deals behind everyone's backs for their own selfish interests, the average person is going to be continually screwed and forced to use them until the billionaires feel they can make a profit off of wind/solar/etc. power. As stupid as many in the human race can be, when they're the ones in power, well, it's not fun to feel like your voice won't be heard. Neutral

But yes, I agree that when something doesn't actually involve a person directly, they are less likely to believe or care about something. And this matter is no different. If people don't feel like they're being affected, they're probably just going to brush it off and mostly ignore it. I do believe global warming is happening, but exactly to what extent, and how much is a result of human negligence is another story. Which might not be able to be totally proven, anyways, without records dating waywaywayway back.
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megarush · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject:

I would have to say i have a neutral point on the line of beleive in global warming or not
I do beleive that something has cause the temperature to go slow up and that smog warnings have been slightly on the rise...and other stuff too
but i have already read in newspapers that antartica was also going over her usual temperature both getting hotter and getting colder.Plus about fossil fuel,we must not forget plastic is made from fossil fuel(not fully though i think)most of the things we have including our own clothing is made with some plastic.
with those both sides I sometimes say yes there is global warming but sometimes I go no global warming is just to scare people.This looks mostly like kill ourselves by heat or kill ourselves by having no more money
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Vast Rendan · Age: 32 Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 14 Location: USA

I am one of the animal-concern people with global warming. All of the penguins in Antarctica aren't dying without a reason. I think we need to take steps to prevent further global warming. I live in a big agricultural state and it seems as though we are always in a drought. With having a drought, no corn, meaning no ethonol, meaning no safer fuel. Not to mention that local rivers and creeks dry up to only a trickle!

It really seems as though we are also in a war with getting fossil fuels. That is why *some* people think we are over in Iraq anyways. With the presidental elections in 2008, I almost want the Green Party candidate to win, because we difinitely need someone going for the enviroment.

I really liked the video, it showed well the outcomes of both sides. I'm definitely in the Yes, we need to take action side. The whole "It-doesn't-matter-to-me" is like the whole "I-won't-get-addicted" with drugs, because IT[/you] WILL!

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marihikari · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:49 am Post subject:

My opinion on global warming is a little different form some of the most well-acknowleged ones- first of all, i do think it's taking place, but i don't think it will bring about the end of the world as a result of it. My friend's dad who's a hydrogeologist thinks that the earth goes into periods of heating and cooling, and this will supposedly lead into another ice age period. Nonetheless, i don't know much else about this matter.
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DrkXFuZion · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject:

**Malik** · Local Prinny Deity Age: 34 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1179

We talked about this today in APUSH, funnily enough.

Apparently, the only positive of global warming is that the colder countries would benefit due to warmer climates for agriculture.

But the economies of all the other countries would probably crash to hell and back, not to mention all the flooding and animal extinctions.
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Kain.EXE · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject:

Even if we can't stop global warming completely, we should at least make an effort to at least slow it down. One of the best solutions would be to find a different (and clean) fuel source. Not only would that cut down carbon dioxide emissions, but it also would help the U.S. free itself of being dependent on oil.
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marihikari · Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject:

megarush · Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject:

[quote="Malik"]Apparently, the only positive of global warming is that the colder countries would benefit due to warmer climates for agriculture. [/quote]
Well i don't think it's going to pass fast as last winter has been the worst we had since a good 5 years.Even though winter fully started a day after christmas,it did a good hit with 4 big storms making it end later too.For us it just seems to have displaced and added a few storms to it.
Just about an hour ago i was reading this last september article(it was in my locker and since school is finishing i brought it back home)which stated if we took care of what we throw in the garbage we could lower up to 70% less pollution by simple recycling and using decomposable materials(like bananas)and doing compost.then it stated what good it did....i should try and put up the actua article.
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