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SeijinKage13 Myō-kage no Ningen
Age: 34 Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 674 Location: why bother? Nobody cares, really.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: Autism and if anyone cares |
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Autism has been recognized as a big genetic problem that has occured mostly in the US. This disorder is recognized by social, speech, and comprhension difficulties at a very young age. Many autistic people have been either lonely or antisocial, but some are either very intelligent or really good at memorization. Many children and adults are affected by autism and other branching disorders, like Asperger's syndrome. I brought up this topic in order to see what other people have to say about it. I have also forgot to say that I have Asperger syndrome myself, and that is no lie (I checked out my medical documents). Anybody has anything to say about it?
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ACME-Rian REO's Resident Intern
Age: 35 Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 404 Location: Stuck in a red state known as Texas...
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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This is an interesting topic for all of us at REO to talk about,as I also have AS.People don't pay attention to autism/AS sufferers,but if there's enough awareness,maybe they'll actually listen.
We may look normal,but we're suffering...quietly... _________________ Things are going to be changing soon in the next few months.Stay tuned for updates and the like. |
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Lils Party Like a Rock Star
Age: 32 Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 314
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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I've wondered what it's like to be an autistic child, it must be pretty hard. I'm pretty familiar with some of things autistic children do when they're young and when they grow older. It's just horrible for me to think about these children that weren't exactly understood or treated the best.
My brother is autistic, and it sure breaks our family's heart to see that a misunderstood child that has a genetic problem is causing so much stress and disables us to be the best family. It's affected my life greatly. =/
Autism and other genetic disorders are all over the country and its been overlooked because it's a behavior and genetic disorder and requires a lot of attention and factors like trust in the parent.
When my parents noticed that there was something wrong with my brother at the age of 4, they took him to the doctor. He told that he could try something on my brother and it might help the autism go away and he can live without this disorder. I'm not sure if it would actually help, but my parents didn't trust the medicine and didn't use it.... They soon regretted this decision and still argue about it to this day.
[edit] Also, services are offered such as people to help you, working like a social worker. I'm not sure if many people would like to give away their child like that, along with their money.
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AngelfanA16 Nebula
Age: 34 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Angel Stadium
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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I also was diagnosed with Asbergers syndrome as well. I don't really see it as a set back, or how it affects me.
As for autism, i don't have it. I work as a teen helper for a sunday school class (kidnergarten) and several children have it. I find it as an annoyance because they always seem to distract the other kids and fight with them. But, as long as I treat them like normal kids, they're fine. Little bit of help here and there, but at the end of the day, I get that great feeling of satisfaction. _________________
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Tachyon360 Le Croissant
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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What irks me about Asperger's is the fairly recent fad of people diagnosing themselves, citing above-average intelligence and social ineptitude. I've noticed that those same people also tend to follow geek chic.
In my opinion, autism and related disorders are only getting the kind of attention they are getting because of the aforementioned poseurs. I don't see it as any more of a problem than any other congenital disorder.
Mind you, I'm not brushing it off, nor am I questioning anyone here that claims to have it, but I do feel it is unnecessarily hyped up. _________________ *placeholder* |
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SeijinKage13 Myō-kage no Ningen
Age: 34 Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 674 Location: why bother? Nobody cares, really.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: disagree |
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Tachyon360 wrote: | Mind you, I'm not brushing it off, nor am I questioning anyone here that claims to have it, but I do feel it is unnecessarily hyped up. | I disagree to that. I told one of my classmates about my problem, but he went and mocked it, calling it "ass burgers" (sorry). What I'm saying is that many people make fun of it because of how little they understand it. Yes, I do think that I feel more intelligent and they agree, but because they are teens with a really "normal" life my classmates tend to insinuate that I have no life, that I'm gay and sensitive, and some boys in my class even stare at me weird just to tick me. |
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Tachyon360 Le Croissant
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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It's certainly a problem, but there are other problems that simply aren't getting the same level of attention.
I'll stand by what I said, that autism is hyped up. It's only one among many diseases that demands a certain level of understanding from society, and it's only one among many that can have a rather large impact on a family. _________________ *placeholder* |
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maverick_hunter_17 Dark Revived Hunter
Age: 39 Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 640 Location: Maverick Hunter Zone 17B
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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i have it too but was misdiagnosed later on you can tell that i had it though from the way that i am, i basically have HFA
HFA: High functioning Autism _________________
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Nenji Nenjiro ja ne!
Age: 37 Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1535 Location: South...of the North Pole!
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: |
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My brother has Aspergers, so I have a different experience being that of someone who lives with an Asperger (not a real noun but it'll do). He's gotten some really good help and can now deal with a lot of things much better than he once could.
I think though, sadly unless you live with someone who has it, it's difficult to appreciate just how much Aspergers affects someone. _________________
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Zippo Hoshi no Senshi
Age: 40 Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 849 Location: Pupupuland
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not terribly convinced about HFA or Asberger syndrome. Honestly, people are likely just introverted and geeky... they don't necessarily have some syndrome or disorder. It's likely thrown around overzealously by a some psychologists who want everything explained and to fall into neat little categories. Sure, the syndrome itself likely exists, but I'm willing to bet half those diagnosed don't really have anything wrong with them... just a unique personality.
That's just my two cents. I fully admit I'm not a psychologist... _________________
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Talec
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 28 Location: Northeast PA, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Myself, my immediate family, and several of my extended family are Aspies..
I wouldn't say I "suffer from it". It's just how I am. The only things I have that cause suffering to me are the comorbid anxiety disorder + sensory hypersensitivies, both of which have been dulled with a prescription of 10 mg/daily Paxil (powerful anti-anxiety drug) and some lifestyle adjustments.
But really, I greatly prefer my Aspie mindset over what the "neurotypical mindset" appears to be like.
And it is usually fun. :]
Zippo wrote: | I'm not terribly convinced about HFA or Asperger syndrome. Honestly, people are likely just introverted and geeky... they don't necessarily have some syndrome or disorder. |
Thing is, there's a cloud of traits/symptoms that define ASD. When a person can identify 50-70% of them as being accurate to themselves, I'd say that's a pretty good chance they're Aspie/etc. (That's how it is for me and my family.) _________________ "Hold me tight," said La Corona to the tin frog. "I am only coloured dots like the rest of the picture."
"No," said the tin frog. "You are no longer only a picture, you are my beloved."
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Nenji Nenjiro ja ne!
Age: 37 Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1535 Location: South...of the North Pole!
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Oh trust me Zippo, Asperger syndrome is real. I live with my brother who has it and there's definitely no mistaking it for anything else. _________________
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ChibiForte ニンジャ
Age: 31 Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 675 Location: EA/TAU
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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I know two people who have severe autism, and I feel so horrible about the way some people are treated. Like one of them this tenth-grader named Elliot. He's a bit on the dark, hostile side, but it's only because people make fun of him so much. It makes me want to cry about how horribly kids would tease him just because of the way he looked and acted. CrossFusionStarman knows him well, and after he started talking with Elliot, so did I. He's actually a very nice person, and even though his reactions aren't exactly as fast as everyone else's, he's a very nice kid.
SeijinKage13 and all the rest of you suffering from this, I hope you guys all know that even if it doesn't seem like it's that big, you'll all be in my prayers. ^_^ _________________
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Kain.EXE Net Official
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 391 Location: Can't stay still.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:34 am Post subject: |
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ChibiForte wrote: | He's actually a very nice person, and even though his reactions aren't exactly as fast as everyone else's, he's a very nice kid. |
Yes, I know some people who are autistic or mentally retarded, but they're complete sweethearts to everyone. It's very touching, really.
Even the ones that are autistic or mentally retarded, but not complete sweethearts to others, I would never make fun of them. It's messed up to make fun of people with mental disabilites.
I just thought of this quote, feel free to use it if you want, against those who make fun of these people: "You might think these people are messed up, but you're the one who's messed up for making fun of them." |
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Lils Party Like a Rock Star
Age: 32 Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 314
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Kain.EXE wrote: | ChibiForte wrote: | He's actually a very nice person, and even though his reactions aren't exactly as fast as everyone else's, he's a very nice kid. |
Yes, I know some people who are autistic or mentally retarded, but they're complete sweethearts to everyone. It's very touching, really.
Even the ones that are autistic or mentally retarded, but not complete sweethearts to others, I would never make fun of them. It's messed up to make fun of people with mental disabilites.
I just thought of this quote, feel free to use it if you want, against those who make fun of these people: "You might think these people are messed up, but you're the one who's messed up for making fun of them." |
I definetly have to agree. But there are those who are more fortunate than others that were born with HFA and Asperger's rather than a more severe form of autism; and I think they are lucky they were not born with something worse that could've disabled them forever.
I don't know what hope there is for autistic patients because not much is being done (I'm sure there are lots of people working on it, but they're not getting far)... When they grow older and their parents are too old to take care of them, and the other children want to go on their own path with their own family... I think the autistic child will be sent to a social worker or someone that takes care of them. Just thinking about that makes me cry and definetly break their family's hearts. _________________ I'm bringing sassy back
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Kupo.EXE Darkloid
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:47 am Post subject: |
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not to be rude or anything but I just read this up on wikipedia trying to see what this aspergers really is and in the diagnosis section they list signs
Quote: | 1. Qualitative impairment in social interaction;
2. The presence of restricted, repetitive and stereotyped behaviors and interests;
3. Significant impairment in important areas of functioning;
4. No significant delay in language;
5. During the first three years of life, there can be no clinically significant delay in cognitive development such as curiosity about the existing environment or the acquisition of age appropriate learning skills, self-help skills, or adaptive behaviors (other than social interaction); and,
6. The symptoms must not be better accounted for by another specific pervasive developmental disorder or schizophrenia.
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now is that or is it not the most ambiguous symptoms list I have ever heard?
now all of those could possibly apply to me(that significant impairment in important areas of functioning I'm a little unsure of), but theres nothing frigging wrong with me (believe me, I've had a mental evaluation).
so can someone who has this affliction be kind enough to describe differences in behavior or physical wellness than someone like me? |
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SeijinKage13 Myō-kage no Ningen
Age: 34 Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 674 Location: why bother? Nobody cares, really.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: situation |
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I apologize to bring up this old thread again, but I want to answer an old question with a detailed post. To answer that question, I had a more different Aspergers Syndrome-related situation before (as you know already, that IS connected to Autism).
Think of it like this (I went through this already): You and your family go to a party. There, you have no interest in anyone, except for your personal interests. Somebody decides to talk to you, but you end up talking, on quote, like a robot. That person goes away, and yet you seem to have no interest in it. You start mumbling yourself about it, thinking about what happened. Then, you try to interact with kids around your age by playing with them. They play a game that you seem to take interest in, but become serious about later on. You then think that they really aren't friendly. You then start complaining about it, but the so called "friends" aren't listening to you. They see this as fun, to break rules and to make silly jokes about it. You could not understand what they are doing, so you run away from them.
Some of those ambiguous symptoms are not easy to find in a doctor's office. Sometimes, you got to look at what happened before. I know it would seem that the hypothetical situation above would sound confusing to anyone, but this is how I see things.
Impairment of social interaction is like how I talk to people, in a robotic or monotinous tone. Restricted behavior and/or interests would be like me only playing a game that I like that others play or taking everything in a literal or serious sense. The impairment of important skills like understanding jokes or being friends puts anyone in misery. Plus, talking fast without stopping can annoy people as much as not showing any interest in them. Finally, schizopherenia deals with having a voice in your head, while someone like myself with an autism-related condition talks to myself, not to anybody else.
Long story short, autism is greatly judged by how you act in the real world with people constantly, not in a doctor's autopsy (well, except in a DNA test). Others can never understand what people like myself feel like when we see the truth of our condition. It's really gut-wrenching and my body is in pain everyday at just how people can't help me recover and cope with my problems. But, the truth is, everyone suffers, probably more than I do, and I just choose to ignore myself, become invisible to many, because I don't want to feel humiliated and feel even more pain. I'm merely a ghost to many of my so called "friends" and I don't really have any solid relations at all. I hope this answers your question, and sorry tofor having to make such a long post. |
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Oh my God, you will not believe the newsflash I just saw.
Four assigned caregivers attacked one of their patients, an autistic woman. And that's not the worst part of it: these caregivers...I mean thugs...are sentenced to only one year in jail because no visible serious injuries were inflicted, nor could the autistic woman say anything about serious injury. If you want my opinion, I'd say they should get at least 20 years of jail (or even jail for life!) for the following reasons:
-They're caregivers, supposed to be responsible for those who can't handle themselves, not make their condition worse.
-Even if there were no serious injuries seen, there was enough pain for even an autistic person to cry.
-The four of them ganged up and attacked a helpless person. Regardless of how little that person suffers, attacking like that should warrant serious punishment.
-It's just ****ed up to treat autistic people like that. _________________ War may not be the right answer, but when you're in one, ending it effectively and with positive results is a must. Vote John McCain for U.S. President.
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Miss Kitty
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 29 Location: Netopia
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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I have a form of autism called Hyperlexia, and like Asperger's Syndrome, it's a high-functioning form marked chiefly by skilled linguistic ability and good memorization skills. Mine in particular left me both gifted and learning disabled; I am very good with the English language and was reading at college level in 2nd grade, yet I am absolutely terrible at math and have never done very well in it through all my years in school without tutoring or special assistance of some sort with it. Socially, I was extremely aversed to talking and interacting with my classmates all the way up until I was in high school and had finally gained the courage to try and make friends. These days, thankfully, I am doing much better socially, and on the subject of academics, if all goes well, I will be graduating with my two-year degree in May.
I actually chose to do a presentation about autism in my Speech 101 class in my second semester, and although I can't say it had a lasting impact on the class, I can say it was rewarding enough to bring many of the alarming facts about it to light. _________________
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Lils Party Like a Rock Star
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know where parents can get assistance to "lessen" the austism?
My parents are growing old... Stressful... And thinking bout my autistic brother just bursts me into tears so easily. _________________ I'm bringing sassy back
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