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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we'll get back to the original plot by the time episode 50 rolls around... :\
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there's a water and fire libra then would they have just one balance thing or there just be water or fire on both? I'm over thinking this aren't I?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They'll probably have both pans filled with either fire or water. :B
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, I wonder if they're just stalling until more info on the second game comes out... It's too bad that there is still a wealth of game material that hasn't been used yet. Luna's parents, the giant viruses, Jammingers, net navis...

Oh well. We'll see how this turns out by the fall.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ComicX6 wrote:
Hm, I wonder if they're just stalling until more info on the second game comes out...

Oh, it was obvious months ago that that's what they're doing.

ComicX6 wrote:
It's too bad that there is still a wealth of game material that hasn't been used yet. Luna's parents, the giant viruses, Jammingers, net navis...
Oh well. We'll see how this turns out by the fall.

Well, (game spoilers)... Luna's parents? All they did in the game was get come down hard on their daughter, which caused Ophiuchus to target her. There's not much else they'd be interesting for. The giant virus concept was done to DEATH in EXE and I'm glad they're not doing it again. And while Jammingers and Net Navis are still unused, there's really not a whole lot you could do with them. Jammingers are about as significant as the Standard Navis of EXE, and those five Net Navis had barely any relevence at all in the game... The only real thing they need to use still is Cepheus, but they can't really do that until they're ready to conclude the first RnR's storyline... Which won't be until they're closer to the second game.

We'll reach 51 episodes by October 6, which will be roughly one year after the anime premiered. The first RnR came out in December 06, two months after the anime premiered, and the second RnR is currently due out in that same general time. Since we keep getting plots in pairs, we should be reaching a conclusion very soon. After all, 43 is called "Collapse of Libra Balance," implying he's dying, so obviously things are going to break down soon. Then they'll be ready to use RnR2 material, even though there's still 2 months for the game to come out.

So, the filler plotlines are probably going to end right after this little Utagai arc coming up.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think Ryuusei's biggest flaw is that it fails to use the game material to its full potential. Take, for example, Tsukasa. His split personality thing appears to have been ignored; he goes along willingly with Gemini. Think of how many episodes they could sqeeze out of that, and the psychological toll it could take on the characters.

Luna's parents, while probably not deepest characters, could catch on to their daughter's crush, inflict some sort of punishment, stir Luna's resentment or something, paving the way for some crisis that Rockman solves, thus forcing them to see him in a new light. You could easily get three episodes out of that.

While Ryuusei's fillers aren't that bad (with the possible exception of the human-virus episode), a parade of them is still a bit annoying, seeing as how they haven't truely run out of material yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me thinks you two should use spoiler tags. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ComicX6 wrote:
Well, I think Ryuusei's biggest flaw is that it fails to use the game material to its full potential. Take, for example, Tsukasa. His split personality thing appears to have been ignored; he goes along willingly with Gemini. Think of how many episodes they could sqeeze out of that, and the psychological toll it could take on the characters.

Luna's parents, while probably not deepest characters, could catch on to their daughter's crush, inflict some sort of punishment, stir Luna's resentment or something, paving the way for some crisis that Rockman solves, thus forcing them to see him in a new light. You could easily get three episodes out of that.

While Ryuusei's fillers aren't that bad (with the possible exception of the human-virus episode), a parade of them is still a bit annoying, seeing as how they haven't truely run out of material yet.

Oh, now come on. How many things from the EXE games were ignored or changed in its anime? You can't truly expect everything to be brought over. And it could be worse: in the manga, there is no Tsukasa or Gemini; Gemini Spark is a single entity who alternates between white and black, and the two forms can even merge to a single super bisho form. Be happy what we have in the anime is only a minimal change.

And the Virus Human episode? C'mon, that episode was good... amusing, and the art was really good... a lot better than that Rockman Express Mail junk.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mind if the anime is not a perfect adaptation of the game. I do mind when details in the game are ignored that could make the anime even better.

I actually liked the mail filler more than the human virus. The former was a cute episode showcasing a boy's earnest desire to help people and make up for his mistakes. The latter I found to be dull and predictable. The only thing that I found entertaining was the comic relief Goyoda provided.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More episode titles, and let me tell you... These ones are really throwing me for a loop. I've translated them the best I can, but I can't quite make sense of any of them on my own. Also, there are no summaries, so we're all together on the speculation train. Here you go...

(Also, if episode 48's title is any indication, maybe I'm off-base with my assumption that this particular series of the anime is concluding at 51 episodes. I can't imagine what War-Rock's politeness status has to do with the end of the story. Of course, not many of EXE's final episodes had much to do with a finale either...)

第45話「宇宙人も悩んでいる」
Episode 45 - "The/This Extraterrestrial is Also Troubled"
(I guess another FM-Seijin is as troubled as Libra is in 44, "Collapse of Libra Balance")

第46話「Wルナの大奮闘」
Episode 46 - "W Luna's Difficult Struggle"
(Yes. W Luna. I don't know what that means either.)

第47話「Wルナの天国と地獄」
Episode 47 - "W Luna's Heaven and Hell"
(Even more bizarre... This sounds almost really serious.)

第48話「ウォーロックはジェントルマン」
Episode 48 - "War-Rock the Gentleman"
(And then we get this... Fu-wha?!)

UPDATE - I've been informed the "W" may possibly reference "double," which would make sense considering the FM-Seijins can turn into the humans they once possessed. Won't know for sure until the episodes air or the summaries are posted.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting. I wonder what's going to happen to them. And gentleman? That makes little sense at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New titles and summaries! Per usual, I'm not fluent in Japanese, so double-check these if you know more than me.

第44話「リブラ・バランス崩壊」
Episode 44 - "Collapse of Libra Balance"
Art Director: Masayuki Nomoto
The summary translated by Babelfish references that the Libra of water and the Libra of flame separate into individual personalities, and the Libra of flame starts on "terrestrial invasion." From the looks of TV Tokyo's summary, it looked to me that the real Ikuta would finally meet W-Ikuta, but maybe that's NOT the case. Hmm...

第45話「宇宙人も悩んでいる」
Episode 45 - "Aliens Also Worry"
Art Director: Masayuki Nomoto
Still about Libra... I'll just copy/paste the Babelfish translation: "The diary which put together your own experience the libra which applies to the prize of the novel. The diary of the libra was chosen in grand prix and large hit, libra boom visited again. Is, but the libra of weak water is pessimistic, when also this position they are brittle ones."

第46話「Wルナの大奮闘」
Episode 46 - "W Luna's Difficult Struggle"
Art Director: Akira Takahashi
This summary is... odd. It mentions Luna deciding to win Rockman over with homemade cooking, and it mentions... that, in order for Ophiuchus to "support life," she must take out a part-time job. What?

第47話「Wルナの天国と地獄」
Episode 47 - "W Luna's Heaven & Hell"
Art Director: Akira Takahashi
Something about Luna's plan to lure Rockman with her homemade cooking succeeds, and then Cancer makes a loud noise, and Luna comes running, or something. Hell if I know. But it definitely doesn't sound like we're working up to a conclusion... at least one that won't be rushed.

(No new info on 48)

第49話「がいこつチェンジ!」
Episode 49 - "Skeleton Change!"
(not positive about the "skeleton" part at all... when Babelfish translates it, I get "It is, Secret Change!" However, my dictionary matches up "がいこつ" as meaning "skeleton," and the remaining part of the title is obviously "change"... so it's hard to say... I'll work on getting a better translation soon)

第50話「告白」
Episode 50 - "Confession"
(Easy translation, and obviously regarding War-Rock...)

第51話「ブラザーバンド」
Episode 51 - "Brother Band"
(Another easy one... I wonder if this IS a finale?)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: curious Reply with quote

Hey guys, I just checked on the official site. Apparently, they took out the summaries for episodes 46 and beyond. I wonder why?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you meant the Capcom site, they weren't posted there yet. They only have until part 2 of the Libra split-personality arc.
The Xebec site still has the W-Luna summaries, and no new ones since they were posted.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ideas for the lunas sound interesting. Because they sound funny. But I'm guessing skeleton means crown thunder. But those last two sound very interesting.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Episode 52's title is out: [Negative Energy]
Definitely looks like a second season's in the making Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you think they'll finish up the first game then slowly start on the second?
When is that out anyway?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 2nd game comes out in November, which I think was the norm for the EXE games.

Well, it's nice to know that there will be more than 51 episodes. Makes all of this mediocre filler we've been getting recently a little more bearable... a little. I'm guessing there's going to be 56 episodes, just like EXE.

Hmm, for some reason I'm thinking the first episode of season 2 will have Subaru getting his ass handed to him by Bly.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am happy that there will be more than 51 episodes as well. Hope that the plot gets heavier for a great conclusion. But I'm going to steal from info from Seiko, since he has not posted it here yet. Something may have changed since he posted this at On-Air, but I'll assume it hasn't.

We know Ape Escape (Saru Getchu) airs in the other half of the timeslot, and they release episode titles in the same manner. You'd think that Ape Escape's season would end at the same time as Ryuusei. But, we have some intrigue:
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check out the episode title for Saru's 51th episode...

"サイゴ" or "saigo"
And here's what my dictionaries tell me saigo means...

saigo
(n-adv,n) one's last moment; one's time of death; (P)
saigo
(n) (1) last; end; conclusion; (exp) (2) (after -tara form or -ta form followed by "ga") no sooner than; right after (often having negative consequences); (3) (arch) one's final moments; (P)

And what do you know, as of that post, there was no episode title for Ape Escape after that, yet Ryuusei's 52 was released.

So, my speculation is that there is a CHANCE...albeit probably small...that Ryuusei could finally get a full 20+ minutes. If not for next season, at least for a final episode or two for this season. While it could just mean another show will take Ape Escape's place or it'll just be on hiatus until Ryuusei finishes out this season, nobody knows yet. But have hope!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well since brother band isn't the final ep I'm gonna make a guess that thats the ep when Subaru and Misora finally become actual friends.
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