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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, Gemini would have probably wanted to avoid killing his fellow FM-ians if possible. That would have been suspicious not only to the FM-king, but also War-Rock and Harp. They would probably figure out that something was wrong if the FM-ian attacks suddenly ceased, and that would prematurely stop Tsukasa/Gemini's plans. He was probably getting desperate because of the order, desperate enough to risk it.

Dunno, just a theory.
I'm thinking more on Gemini and Tsukasa hoping that the other FMs would be finished off by Rockman while they were trying to gather negative energy... Neutral
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I got the impression that if Gemini didn't kill the FM-ians, it wouldn't have added to the negative energy (?) Is that right?

And, well, it would be suspicious if they suddenly stopped attacking and died one by one. Rockman would turn up before Gemini was done collecting negative energy.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I can speculate a bit, I think yes, minus energy = FM sejin energy. Possibly AM sejin energy too. So the energy that actually feeds Andromeda is the same that fed the dimensional generators from EXE Axess. Only this time more crude. Andromeda is supposedly made of waves that were lost in space, right? Could it be all the dead EM lifeforms that actually gathered up in sacrifice? Sorta like... souls?

My idea is that they could actually rebel eventually (hey it happened in Axess).

Just an idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think a lot of things can translate into negative energy. The FM Seijins were gathering negative energy from human emotion by causing terror, weren't they?

That was the impression I got, anyway. I know it seemed like a lot of it wasn't real negative energy (i.e., all of Cancer Bubble's tears from that weird Luna episode arc)... But, they obviously filled it with something by this episode. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been a big deal that it broke. (Because, after all, G-Spark had repaired it/a new one by the end of the episode.) Since they were doing nothing but random attacks since episode 32, I assume it was human emotions filling the key.

But, anyway... G-Spark is collecting it by harnessing the energy from other FM Seijins. Seeing as the FM Seijins are a "warful clan," as War-Rock said in episode 3, then it makes sense that their bodies would convert into negative energy the same way negative emotions would...

I don't necessarily believe it would apply to AM Seijins the same way, however, because AM Seijins seem to represent "positive energy." We've never seen an FM Seijin that was a good guy, and we've never seen an AM Seijin that was a bad guy, so... it makes sense to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We've never seen an FM Seijin that was a good guy, and we've never seen an AM Seijin that was a bad guy, so... it makes sense to me.
Wrong! Harp is an FM Seijin that has allied herself with Warrock and Misora, remember?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides we don't know for sure that AM-ians are actually good. And that'd be quite general to think. There may be some traitors too, you know? We haven't just seen anything yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's with Minus Energy anyway? All of it reeks of Masaru Emoto's pseudoscientific experiments on how emotions affect snowflakes. The story writers had better come up with a load of technobabble to justify it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But, they obviously filled it with something by this episode. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been a big deal that it broke. (Because, after all, G-Spark had repaired it/a new one by the end of the episode.) Since they were doing nothing but random attacks since episode 32, I assume it was human emotions filling the key.


They probably were that stupid, making a big deal over the bottle when it broke. The key was fake, so they couldn't have actually filled it with something. I was under the impression that the bottle was filled with Cancer's tears from episode 41.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But, they obviously filled it with something by this episode. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been a big deal that it broke. (Because, after all, G-Spark had repaired it/a new one by the end of the episode.) Since they were doing nothing but random attacks since episode 32, I assume it was human emotions filling the key.


They probably were that stupid, making a big deal over the bottle when it broke. The key was fake, so they couldn't have actually filled it with something. I was under the impression that the bottle was filled with Cancer's tears from episode 41.


Lol it wasn't an impression. That IS so. LOL.

The FMs had no idea that key was fake, so they tried to fill it, and failed. Except Cancer, that cried into it thanks to Misora's teen drama, and plenty of Luna's beatings. Eventually he even tries to summon Andromeda (and fails, DUH), and gets more beatings, which cause him to spill the fake key empty.

He also developed amnesia but that's another topic. :X
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

o_0 I was rather confused when Cancer managed to make the key glow during the teen drama thing though. For a second there, I thought his twisted reasoning regarding negative energy actually worked.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeijinKage13 wrote:
Crimson Seiko wrote:
We've never seen an FM Seijin that was a good guy, and we've never seen an AM Seijin that was a bad guy, so... it makes sense to me.
Wrong! Harp is an FM Seijin that has allied herself with Warrock and Misora, remember?

Dammit. I remembered that just now and rushed to see if anyone caught me on it yet. >_o
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