Tribe 5 (Snowcone with your spoilers?)

ComicX6 · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject:

? What's up with the up in arms over Misora? This is only one episode, and she shows up next ep... While I am disappointed that Misora was one of the characters that had their past stripped in the anime, I don't think she's gonna take the Meiru/Jasimine route (ie: pointless bitching), at least not yet... she better not.

There was a piece of concept art of Misora's mom somewhere... I believe I saw it at Atomic Fire a while back. I don't know if it's been transfered over to the MMN yet though. There was this really cute sketch showing Misora sleeping over some sheet music, with her mom putting a blanket over her or something. I don't recall what she looked like except that she was wearing a kimono I think...

EDIT: Ah, here it is: http://blue-bomber.jvmwriter.org/media/Art/displayimage.php?album=30&pos=42

Yeah, Misora's a better character than later seasons Meiru. I think that fantasy she had of crossfusing in Axess sums up why I didn't like her much by that point. And even when she did do something, someone had to bail her out. Over, and over. At least Misora can hold her own somewhat better.
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DanSidney · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:11 am Post subject:

Tachyon360 · Le Croissant Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 740

It's the far-flung future. You'd think repairing something like that wouldn't be such a big deal.

Besides, it's not like she went and said, "Oh well, easy come, easy go." Misora did get pretty damn ticked that episode.
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TheWebbuilder · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:16 am Post subject:

Backing up a bit, I think one of the reasons that everyone's so concerned about Misora's role in Tribe is because of her role in Ryuusei.

Misora did almost nothing but save RockMan's bacon, and as such came across as the stronger of the two (although that really isn't a fair idea; Misora didn't save RockMan because was stronger, but because she was perpetually able to perform sneak attacks); now that Tribe's started up, Misora's been beat down pretty quick and the previews seem to suggest that Misora's going to take a back-seat role, and thus come off as the weaker of the two.

It's a little disconcerting.

Back to the current discussion, it's not as if Misora's the only one to get the wrong end of the stick in Ryuusei. Outside of Utagai, nobody had a backstory or any real character development. One thing I discovered during Visit is that we really don't know anything about any of the characters or what motivates them. Ryuusei focused too much on the FMs, and their development was rather pointless due to the fact that they all died off, with Cancer Spade's exception, in one episode.

The angry Misora in Ryuusei 52? is perhaps the version of her character I liked most. At least in that episode she came across as a real human being instead of a flat one-dimensional plot device.

Hopefully Tribe will spend some time going back and fleshing out the characters a little, but somehow I doubt it. Bly/Burai is probably going to end up with more character to him than Subaru is.
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ComicX6 · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject:

Um, about the guitar being a presant... That was from the game, so seeing as how Misora's mom has faded into the realm of non-existance in the anime, so does that aspect of the guitar...

Come to think of it, no one really had parents in the Exe anime, save for Netto, and Enzan had a dead mother and his asshole dad in that one flashback. Yaito had that generic plump richguy dad in the second Elecman episode though...

Same for Ryuusei too. Luna's parents are now on a perpetual vacation it seems, and Misora's don't exist at all... Then they turn right back around and have Tsukasa not only living in a two story house, but also having a car in the drive, when he was an embittered orphan in the game.

Yeah, trying (and largely failing), to develop the FMs was pointless since they all died in less than two episodes.

As for Misora's role, I'm still not seeing anything that warrants the warning sirens everyone else seems to be giving off. We're only five episodes in out of fifty-something. If she hasn't don't much by thirty, then we should be worried. Maybe this season they'll have her beat a UMA all by herself. We can speculate, right? Remember, she did hurt Bly all by herself last week, which is more than Subaru can attest to.

Once Bly's novelty has worn off, I'm sure he'll become a much more managable foe, just like how Blues completely overpowered Rockman back in early EXE, but by Axess the gap seemed to be closed a bit.
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Unknown Neo · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject:

ComicX6 · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject:

Misora's mom unfortunately doesn't exist in the anime.
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Tachyon360 · Le Croissant Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 740

Not yet, she doesn't.

Come to think of it, this may well be a very strong option with which to grow Misora's character. Misora's mom could be introduced for the sole purpose of being doomed to die. Hell, it could be taken a step further - Misora's mom could actually be killed, lending not only a heavy bought of grief, but also a seething desire for vengeance.

Unknown Neo · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject:

That might be a lot though. Has a non-evil character been killed on screen? Maybe it would be a flashback or something.

ComicX6 · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I highly doubt that'll happen, seeing that this show is even more kiddier than Exe, and cause every good guy who 'dies' just comes back later, like Misaki and Yuriko.

But I still think they should have Misora beat a UMA alone. That would be nice.
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Tachyon360 · Le Croissant Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 740

Ah, but if you'd go the flashback route, you'd need some sort of plot device that would neatly explain why Misora has apparently been coping so well up to that point that it would be brought into play.

Besides, tragedy fresh off the storyboard would be more powerful than a stale memory.

Mind you, I'm not holding my breath here. Odds are, they won't introduce Misora's mom at all, or if they do, she'd be only either a background character (albeit alive and kicking) or something of a footnote on an episode centering on Misora's past.

One can hope, though, eh? (I use the term "hope" loosely here. Seeing tragedy strike one of my favorite characters in the series wouldn't exactly be sugary sweet.)

EDIT: @ComicX6, I'd argue that of the two series, EXE was the kiddier one. I mean, Axess took a slightly darker turn, but on the whole, I'd say Ryusei isn't quite as light-hearted. Perhaps I'm mistaken and it's just emo culture slowly seeping into Rockman, but still...
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ComicX6 · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject:

Yeah, the writers could do so much better with some of this stuff. Good thing Viz has English credits, cause now we know who to direct our ire towards.

Ryuusei started out somewhat seriously for the first 25 episodes, then got real serious for the next six, then got insanely kiddy for the next 20, and finally grew up a bit for the last few.

And when I type 'Exe', I'm referring to the anime as a whole. When I type 'EXE', I'm referring to only the first 56 episodes.
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