How do *you* explain Megamn Sydrome in MMBN?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think the enzan theory would work. All Blues uses is swords, you don't see Enzan slot-in in a Forte chip and kill Rockman.... I think that...uhh.... i agree with the virus' and navi's getting stronger. Except that the Hi-Cannon and other chips are weaker from .EXE1.... Maybe someone should e-mail capcom asking about this? :D
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForteXXGS wrote:
i don't think the enzan theory would work. All Blues uses is swords, you don't see Enzan slot-in in a Forte chip and kill Rockman.... I think that...uhh.... i agree with the virus' and navi's getting stronger. Except that the Hi-Cannon and other chips are weaker from .EXE1.... Maybe someone should e-mail capcom asking about this? :D

It was a joke, ForteXXGS. Seriously, I agree with the virus and navi theory.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking more like every time something drastic happens, Rockman often has to lose whatever data is in there.

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Rockman EXE 1: Since Rockman gets revived with the Saito.bat, he gets to keep his power for the duration until LifeVirus gets deleted. X amount of time later like Rockman EXE Transmission, Rockman must have gotten re-configured.

Rockman EXE 2: Netto and Rockman were in Full Synchro for the very first time, and it might have created any conflicting programmings shortly after Gospel fell.

Rockman EXE 3: Rockman was consumed by Proto, and Yuuichiro just built Rockman from scratch using help from Grandpa Hikari's notes.

Rockman EXE 4: Got stumped, but maybe because Netto and Rockman used Full Synchro at another time besides net battles such as giving Rockman strength for manipulating the steering wheel switch at the end of the game?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I want to know is how rockman lose his soul unison
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

railracer express wrote:
What I want to know is how rockman lose his soul unison


Er, in the anime and in the games,

[spoil:b766307b69]Rockman has not lost his soul unisons.[/spoil:b766307b69]

So.. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think all of Rockman's upgrades and chips are totally insigificant as far as the story goes. Those are just there for gameplay.

The important part is Rockman going on his romp through the 'Net and ultimately defeating some adamantine übervirus. The chips and stuff he collects are just tools - no point in keeping 'em, as it would make Rockman really overpowered shortly into the series, and that would cause a whole slew of odds 'n ends (like, "Why don't normal Navis die in one shot? I could understand the major characters being comparable to Rockman, but those cheap POS's?").

So to just make the game more balanced (if you have a newbie starting out with BN4, he won't stand a chance against a guy who's kept all his chips and upgrades since BN1), and make developing it easier on the code monkeys (so they wouldn't have to worry about space on the cartridge or a linking system to transfer data or whatnot), Capcom just opts to leave it out altogether.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But you can't have guts or roll unison in the 5th game. I want my wood soul and the metal soul
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's obvious, really... Rockman's Dark Soul ate them. :(
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that would certainly explain why he pulls them out of his ass all the time. xD
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Lan's chips being confiscated by the Officals makes sense in-between 3 and 4, because they mention that NetBattling was banned for a time between the two games. It could be Lan had to lose all his poweful chips and was only allowed to use the basic ones that he starts BN4 of with for virus busting only.

As for Style Changes/Soul Unisons, it's been said before in older threads on the old forum, but in BN 2 Yuuichiro does mention he has to give the Change.bat back to YumSquare, so I guess after Gospel is dealt with he does so since they figure they don't need it anymore.

I'm guessing in EXE 3 when Cossack was modyifing the Press data maybe he slipped in a Change.bat into MegaMan while he was at it(Kicking in shortly afterwards when MegaMan goes up aganist BubbleMan's guys in the ACDC NetArea). Then after Mega gets deleted upon his self destruct to drive Lan out of Alpha, he looses it again.

Then in BN 4, my guess is that Yuuichiro re-installs Hub.bat and makes a watered down Full Synchro(With a saftey feature to automatically wear off once MegaMan uses an attack chip or gets hit so Lan doesn't get hurt in return) and perhaps Soul Unison becomes a side effect. Perhaps either MegaMan's big Full Synchro at the end caused his Soul Unison program to overload, or they just lost the Soul data when he gets transferred to the Progress PET.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? Who said about NetBattling being banned? Hum I should pay more attention...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the beginning of BN4, during the scene when you get to ElecSquare for the first time and the guy does his speech about the Den/City Battle Tournment, he mentions that NetBattling was banned to reduce NetCrime or something, and the ban was lifted for the tournments.

Then again, Lan not having his chips from the last game in BN4 could also have been due to MegaMan's deletion. Since he didn't have a Navi for four months, he could have easily just gotten rid of his chips since he had no use for them.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

say does any body know what happen to the pet virus that rockman got in the third series?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the MMBN games I think that chips,styles,soul unisons are just there for the extra gameplay (I mean come on who would really buy the game if you only can have the same chips the entire game?)

and for the older game (X series and such) I think that Light programed rock to be unable to use any upgradades after a threat has been neutralised
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

railracer express wrote:
say does any body know what happen to the pet virus that rockman got in the third series?


Are you referring to that last job? Well, since that job is part of the "extra" scenario after you beat the game, I don't think its considered canon anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or he's reffering to the "Browser Crash" attack Flashman uses on him before he gets deleted. I never finished BN3, but at the point I was at, Lan's father fixed the PET and got rid of it. Of course they're may be more to it. I never did understand why they bothered to include it in the game. Maybe it played a larger part in the plot but I hadn't gotten far enough.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, no that's not what I meant sorry for the confusion. You know the virus that stays in the SciLab in a container in which you can summon them in battle such as metools, bunnies, and others...(can't remember)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an old topic, but I just thought of something. The game play's as if MegaMan's at the beggining level through out the entire game. Chips are side things that you can recive outside of the plot. So the game basicly plays beggining to end on the original folders and level's, and all the chip's and PowerUp's you recive, don't really interact with the plot you recive and
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and another thing.
in exe 3, netto see tamako and netbattle her.
he must fught her to continue the story!
but, in exe 4, netto see that metalman is one of his oppents, and he doesn't know who he is!
and he doesn't know who tamako is! same for tamako!
so, insted of saying:
netto: "hi! tamako-san!"
tamako: "hello netto-kun!"
thay say:
netto: "who are you?"
tamako: "i am metalman's operator! who are you?"

what happened to thire memory? XDD
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

railracer express wrote:
But what about soul unisons? How did megaman lose style change?


I have a news flash for you:[spoil:87dd77102f]Megaman DIED at the end of BN 3 and Lan's father rebuilt him, so the chng.bat died with him[/spoil:87dd77102f]
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