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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This list is amazing. Quoted from [the place that doesn't exist], who quoted from 2channel.

I'll spoiler it:

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Direct Leak from 2 Channel (Spoilers)
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WARNING: THIS IS THE FINAL SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL ROSTER, THE SOURCE WAS GATHERED FROM 2CH, AND HAS BEEN CONFIRMED TO BE A RELIABLE SOURCE. IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE FINAL ROSTER SPOILED FOR YOU, INCLUDING ALL SECRET CHARACTERS, THEN CLICK BACK NOW

This was taken from the previously mentioned Japanese blog, and translated by one of the 2ch users into English (so the English isn't perfect). Enjoy.


2ch wrote:
First of all, I want to say the characters which have been cut from the Melee roster and will not appear in Brawl as playable.
- Pichu (Cut completely, returns only as Trophy and Sticker)
- Dr. Mario (Returns as Assist Trophy)


Sorry to all that enjoyed playing as the above characters, but I hope you will be satisfied with the rest of the Brawl roster.

This is the list of the initial roster, who you can play as right when you first start the game.
- Mario
- Bowser
- Peach
- Wario
- Yoshi
- Link
- Zelda
- Pikachu
- Pokemon Trainer
- Samus
- Kirby
- King Dedede
- Meta Knight
- Fox
- Pit
- Ike
- Donkey Kong
- Diddy Kong
- Captain Falcon
- Ice Climbers
- Lucas
- Pikmin & Olimar
- Sonic
- Snake

As you can see from the above list, Captain Falcon is the only character that is not shown on the website yet and every character shown is default. Zero Suit Samus is first only playable when using Samus Final Smash, but can later be unlocked to be played at any time.


The below list is a list of all characters that must be unlocked, this is the final roster, and we are sorry if your favorite character did not make the cut.

- Luigi
- Bowser Jr./Shadow Mario (Changes like Zelda in SSBM)
- Baby Mario & Luigi
- Geno
- Young Link (Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass version, is not a clone of default Link)
- Wolf Link & Midna
- Ganondorf (Has own moveset, is not a clone)
- Shiek (Seperate character from Zelda)
- Vaati
- Mewtwo
- Pokemon Rival (Turtwig, Croconaw and Blaziken)
- Lucario
- Jigglypuff
- Zero Suit Samus (Unlocked to be selected apart from Samus)
- Ridley
- Falco (Has own moveset, is not a clone)
- Krystal
- Ness (Has own moveset, is not a clone)
- Animal Crosser
- Marth
- Roy
- K.Rool
- Black Shadow
- Sukapon
- Mr. Game & Watch
- Takamaru
- Ray 01
- Andy
- Mii (Looks like your Mii! Weight and size differ, but attacks are always same)


That's...amazing if true. Although our two third parties being unlocked from the start is enough to make me skeptic. Rumors are always fun tho'/[/spoiler][/quote]
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I haven't been posting here lately.My opinions are here:

New Multi-Man Melee-Totally awesome!Combines Power Rangers,the Polygons and the Wire-Frames.Win in a nutshell.
The Melee Stages that will be returning.Win!I love those stages to bits,minus the Rainbow Cruise...So dizzying.
Capt. Olimar and the Pikmin... Confused This game keeps getting weirder...Probably not gonna play as him...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

baby bowser and shadow mario? That just sounds too...insane to be true. As much as I'd love to believe that this list is correct (cough WW/PH Link cough), there's just too many things that sound too unbelievable to be true.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. Like I said right off the bat, the fact that Snake and Sonic are there from the beginning is enough to set of the faaaaaake alarm.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that Snake and Sonic are initial characters is strange, but not really all that surprising, really. The unlockable characters are, after all, supposed to be secret surprises, and seeing as Snake and Sonic have already been announced, encountering them in Adventure Mode (or however you will unlock new characters) won't surprise anyone.

And seeing as how the currently announced roster contains an equal number of Veterans and Newcomers, it looks like Sakurai has essentially outlined the initially available characters. Isn't anyone surprised that Pokemon Trainer and Olimar are initially available, even if they've only been announced relatively recently? You would think Olimar in particular would be among the unlockables considering he's only been announced this week, but he's not.

As for the unlockable roster, I have to say that it makes sense. Sakurai has given me the impression that the Brawl team is pulling out all the stops for this game, leaving no franchise untouched and no detail forgotten, throwing in every mode and character and option that they can think of.

Individual thoughts:

Geno surprised me at first, but I guess he could be considered Squeenix's third-party character. (Fairly sure Squeenix still has the rights for him.)

Same for the Pokemon Rival, but I guess if you're going to have one, you might as well have two...and this will let us have our own Pokemon Battles. :D I'm assuming that since Trainer is "Ash" from FR/LG, Rival is "Gary".

Vaati never struck me as being popular enough to be included in Smash Bros, but I'm not that big of a Zelda fan, so I might be wrong.

No real surprises from the returning characters, as well as Lucario, K. Rool, Ray 01 and Andy. I'm especially hoping Andy's inclusion is real so that Advance Wars finally gets its props.

The Mii is a bit of a shocker; do you upload a Mii to the remote to use in the game? Is it different for every profile? Do you select it in the options menu? Does it use a random one from your Wii when the computer controls it?

Babies Mario and Luigi? How is that supposed to work?

Wolf Link and Midna will be pretty amusing.

Bowser Jr is a surprise, but he's been included in so many Mario games recently, I guess it shouldn't be. His ability to turn into Shadow Mario hopefully means that it'll be his Sunshine incarnation, with the magic brush and such.

Kinda disappointed that we don't have any non-Lord Fire Emblem characters, but oh well.

I'm unfamiliar with Black Shadow, Sukapon and Takamaru. Anybody know who they are?


It's entirely possible that this list is false...but if it is, the one who wrote it up didn't try to throw too many curve balls in for kicks. And if it's true, Brawl is going to be beyond amazing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vaati was pretty cool in Minish Cap in my opinion, but seeing as he always ends up being a Gigantic Eye, I don't see how it'd work. Maybe as a boss, or something, but I doubt he could be a playable character.

As for Andy, that'd be pretty badass. But seeing as how the Advance Wars Assist Trophy is just a bunch of tanks firing, I don't see how that could work ._.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shakai wrote:
As for Andy, that'd be pretty badass. But seeing as how the Advance Wars Assist Trophy is just a bunch of tanks firing, I don't see how that could work ._.


He's always running around with that wrench of his, maybe he wields the dreaded art of wrench-fu?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, maybe. But I actually was going for something else, but I can't think of what it was I was getting at. @_@

But there is no time to dwell on such things as Snake has just grabbed a smash ball.

Yes, that's correct. Snake's final smash is up. Looks like fun too :3
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second screenshot:

Snake: "I belieeve I can fly, I belieeeve I can touuuch the sky...."

Can't wait till the English site is updated so I can see what Sakurai has to say about it. o.O
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is this list being accepted as fact? D:

I question how these targeting attacks will work. Dragoon and now Snake's Final Smash.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Sketch

Skills. B)

I think it'll just be a cursor you control with the Analog stick.

Also. what's up with Sakurai's obsession with Snake's butt? Not that it's a bad thing, I mean, because I know everyone loves Snake's butt.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sketch wrote:
Why is this list being accepted as fact? D:


It's not, we're merely speculating. And until someone comes right out and proves it's false, it might in fact be fact.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought maybe the targetting would work with the wii remote, but then again, you can use the classic controller or the GCN controller instead of the 'mote, so I'm not sure.

Anyway...

Zelda's FS has been leaked, it's light arrows. As well, she has a Shiek transformation. it's all in this link

http://www.brawlcentral.com/

I got the link from Zero Beat.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not real, the roster leak. It says Sonic and Snake are playable from the beginning while a CoroCoro scan has shown that Sonic and Snake are hidden.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah well, was fun while it lasted. XD

Guess the only way we'll find out for sure is if somebody gets the Japanese version at the end of January.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes, 2-Chan. Like the US version but a lot of us just don't know the horrible things they say. And that list did seem a little off. I'd want to unlock Sonic. And a few others. But not having Pichu and Dr. Mario wouldn't be so bad.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, Snake's Final Smash. Looks like somewhat of an FPS, but not really.
That roster above would've been nice though. D:
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope Tonight we get more Info on Zelda and her FS. Really want to see Shiek and how she/he looks like if she/he was on TP :D

Anyone here got the latest CoroCoro? it has the Cards and some new info :O

Zelda FS is Arrow of Light I should post a pic of it :O
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Brawl Central has some others...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

o_o I already posted the link to the site with that picture, was it really necessary to post it again?
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