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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And what if you use Manaphy while your opponent's holding a Final Smash? O.O Woah.


wow, didn't even think of that ... in other news, there's an interview with the developer of SSBB and the prez of Nintendo in a segment called "Iwata Asks" if anyone missed it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manaphy is pretty crazy. All those possibilities Heatshadow wrote, and then some. This is truly Brawl's Captain Ginyu! I certainly hope your kills count when swapped. Then again, it would be interesting for it to count your kills as another as their kills against you... though then people might just sit around and wait it out or throw themselves off the stage... on second thought, that's great!

"THAT'S A DIRTY TRICK, COMMITTING SUICIDE BECAUSE MANAPHY GAVE YOU MY BODY!!!"

"All's fair in love, war, and Smash Bros."

I also like how Zelda was in this update too, chasing DK... I TOLD YOU SHE WAS MEAN, SHAKAI!!

The Iwata interview wasn't that interesting to me, but I thought it was cute how Sakurai kept asking "Should I even be here?" I hadn't been aware he wasn't a Nintendo employee right now. o=
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know why people ask if you lose points and etc when Sakurai Explains it.

"You have to fight as your opponent for a while! They say it’s good to know your enemy.

But you haven’t really swapped places, so if you jump off the edge, it counts as a self-destruct for you. And your damage meter remains as it was."

You play as the heart swamped character. Your Damage meter stays the same and if you kill yourself its a -1 to you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero Beat wrote:
I dont know why people ask if you lose points and etc when Sakurai Explains it.

"You have to fight as your opponent for a while! They say it’s good to know your enemy.

But you haven’t really swapped places, so if you jump off the edge, it counts as a self-destruct for you. And your damage meter remains as it was."

You play as the heart swamped character. Your Damage meter stays the same and if you kill yourself its a -1 to you.


Makes sense.

The timing of a Manaphy appearance could lead to some crazy switches...like Swapping with an opponent right before a thrown Bo-omb kills you.

And another thing occurred to me; if your opponent dies as your character right before the Swap ends, does it wait for the opponent to respawn before switching back, or do you regain control of your character while it's in limbo?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im pretty sure when you die and respawn you get your character back.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried getting to the interview, but all clicking the link did was take me to wiius.com or however it's spelled.

Manaphy intrigues me. But the description could be a bit better >>;

I don't get this whole "Your damage meter stays the same" business. Does that mean regardless of how many times you hit your opponent, no one takes damage? Or what?

Also...

Mary at CN wrote:

So here's the list, accompanied by the original Japanese text. Judge it for yourself, but I'm pretty much sold.


37キャラクターの『大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズX』!!
37 Characters in Dairantou Smash Brothers X!!

マリオ Mario
ルイージ Luigi
クッパ Koopa (Bowser)
ピーチ Peach
ヨッシー Yoshi
ワリオ Wario
ドンキーコング Donkey Kong
ディディーコング Diddy Kong
ピカチュウ Pikachu
ポケモントレーナー Pokémon Trainer
ルカリオ Lucario
プリン Purin (Jigglypuff)
リンク Link
ゼルダ Zelda
シーク Sheik
ガノンドロフ Ganondorf
こどもリンク 『ゼルダの伝説 夢幻の砂時計』 Young Link (Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass) <--makes your mother very happy-
サムス Samus
ゼロスーツサムス Zero Suit Samus
フォックス Fox
ファルコ Falco
ウォルフ Wolf
カービィ Kirby
メタナイト Meta Knight
デデデ Dedede
キャプテン・ファルコン Captain Falcon
ネス Ness
リュカ Lucas
マルス Marth
アイク Ike
ピクミン&オリマー Pikmin & Olimar
ピット Pit
アイスクライマー Ice Climber
Mr.ゲーム&ウォッチ Mr. Game & Watch
ロボット Robot (R.O.B.)
スネーク Snake
ソニック Sonic

プリンの必殺ワザ Purin's Special Moves
通常必殺ワザ: ころがる Standard Special Move: Rollout
横必殺ワザ: はたく Side Special Move: Pound
上必殺ワザ: うたう Up Special Move: Sing
下必殺ワザ: ねむる Down Special Move: Rest
最後の切りふだ: ハイパーボイス Final Smash: Hyper Voice

ロボットの必殺ワザ Robot's Special Moves
通常必殺ワザ: ロボットブロック Standard Special Move: Robot Missile
横必殺ワザ: ミサイル Side Special Move: Robot Block
上必殺ワザ: ロケットジャンプ Up Special Move: Robot Jump
下必殺ワザ: ロボットジャイロ Down Special Move: Robot Gyro
最後の切りふだ: ロボット軍団 Final Smash: Robot Army Corps


Hara wrote:
Before I celebrate or cheer with you guys.....

Where did you get this list? What be your source D<


Mary at CN wrote:
Japanese Player guide for the Smash Brothers. It already came out and you know what that means. XD


ZeroBeat wrote:
But if it is already out wouldnt scans and SHIT tons of info be out by now? Honestly I cant really believe the list till some sort of scan or pics of the guide.

Also there pics of the Disc and the Player Select screen.


I leave deciphering of this to you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What it means is lets say You have Ike at 78% and I have Sonic at 40%

Manaphy comes out and now im playing as Ike and you are now playing as Sonic.

My % is still 40 and your is still 78.

and that list just doesnt sit with me well :/ and like I siad in that post where are the scans?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if it is fake, it's probably pretty darn close to what we get.

King K. Rool needs to replace KID LINK though
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PH/WW/MC/FS/FSA Link could be a very nice character if executed correctly. I added all those others on since all of those Links use the same art style XD;;;
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW stage and NEW music.

New music is the Remix of the Original Mario song of world 1-1 :D

and new stage is a sidescroller of World 1-1 :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh, the infamous auto-scrolling stages...

Atleast this one scrolls horizontally instead of vertically like the Ice Climbers' stage in Melee (the name escapes me at the moment...)

Though I imagine the alternate 1-2 will be a death trap. o_O If people get too busy fighting each other and not busting their way through the blocks, they may find themselves without a lot of elbow room...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

even though the scrolling is at a "leisurely pace", im sure there's a way to trap your opponents behind the rock stairs while you're already over it. i didn't know that you could break the blocks in the second world ... that cleared up a bit. i thought Bowser was S.O.L., lmao.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love it. The design, the music, everything.

Such an interesting twist to the whole 'same area from a game, just more detailed'.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's really one thing that I thought of with this stage.
That it's madness. But, then I thought of a VGcats comic.
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=231
Don't know why but that's what I thought of.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, the poor Mushroom Kingdom, its lush forests and teeming wildlife now long gone.
Nice music.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unknown Neo wrote:
There's really one thing that I thought of with this stage.
That it's madness. But, then I thought of a VGcats comic.
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=231
Don't know why but that's what I thought of.


You can bet that, once the game's released, someone will post a screenshot of one character kicking another into a pit with the caption "This...is...SPARTAAA!"
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caWJR4nBp_4

New Commercial Plus new Footage of SSE mode.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caWJR4nBp_4

New Commercial Plus new Footage of SSE mode.


hehe, Samus and Pikachu team up. anyhoo, on the official site ... WiFi Battle! Nintendo HQ Kyoto VS. Nintendo HQ Tokyo (hmm, just noticed Kyoto is Tokyo rearranged). this is to show possible lagging due to distance and such. Samus's Final Smash is awesome ... just don't let anyone get behind you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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\Samus's Final Smash is awesome ... just don't let anyone get behind you.


I couldn't help but laugh my ass off as Link utterly pwnt Samus after she used the Zero Laser.

So that distance is about the distance of Los Angeles to Las Vegas? No lag at all, I see....I wonder how it would fare with east coast/west coast?

...Also Sonic's taunt is silly "You're too sloooow!"

Also, I'm wondering, does Samus get an actual voice this time? Instead of darth vader noises? I mean, I can understand if she still has those when she's wearing the suit, but what about when she's wearing the zero suit? Know what I mean?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would guess as much as Link has had a voice.
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