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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tachyon360 wrote:
No, Blackberries don't fit the mold, not in the slightest. PDAs are a far cry from what a PET would be. The iPhone, as a data consumption device, is a step in the right direction, but there are still miles to walk.

Think for a second. Imagine you're in your bedroom, and you have with you a UMPC-like device that offers controls for all features in your room, from your TV, to your lighting, to your HVAC system, to your telephone line, to your PC's webcam, and even some basic features of the PC itself (à la PlutoHome and Vista SideShow), in addition to a standard set of data consumption features. Then you step out of your room and head to the kitchen. Some features remain the same - you'd still have media, lighting, HVAC, and telephony controls. However, some UI elements would reconfigure themselves as you'd move from room to room - for example, you could check the inventory of your fridge, or set an oven timer, all with the flick of a finger.

Take that idea and scale it up to a school, or mall, or a museum, and you'll see that a Blackberry this is not. This would require both robust, industry-wide mesh networking and a number of open protocols to foster appliance control and situational interactivity, forming the very basis of what could ultimately evolve into a true pervasive computing environment. We're still years away from that.

A Navi is itself UI bloat. It serves no meaningful purpose in terms of interacting with computers. This isn't a matter of aesthetics at all. This is a matter of sound interface design, which I contend that Navis are not, no matter what features you try to shove into the concept.


I see... well, how about a PDA that can control any device, provided it has access to the system? That would be the definition of a PET, no?

We're years away from anything that has to do with the concept of a PET.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im confused now. you said a page before that making PETs would be easy, and are now saying that we're years away from the *concept* of PETs. anyhoo, as said in the other similar threads, NetNavis would be awesome but as Tachyon360 has stated previously, they simply aren't practical [yet] either.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm saying they're simply not practical, period. I feel that they're just plain bad interface design. Come to think of it, the quality of artificial intelligence needed to make a Navi believable could very well make it a serious resource hog on top of that.

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I see... well, how about a PDA that can control any device, provided it has access to the system?
It'd be a similar device in terms of size, but it would be quite a different animal than just a PDA with some control features. Your computing experience would be the very environment around you, and that device would principally serve as an interface to it. Thus far, we don't have a device quite comparable to such a concept.
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