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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn how does that compare to the silverbullet assuming you are in guts soul, metal soul, or number soul?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, I'm not sure about the Forte Another chip on Duo.EXE (does it hit him by the way?), but the Forte chip does not work on the big guy.


Yes, Forte Another works on Duo, but you must be in his face (ie. AreaGrab first) to hit. Saved my life at least once against him.

Razorman .Exe wrote:
I thought it was like this: 30+10x2=(Atk+50)+50 (HolyDream)=100x2 (DoublePoint)=200x18 (HolyPanels)=3200x2 (FullSynchro)=6400 Attack.


No. No.

Calculation errors.

First thing, DoublePoint does not double damage. It adds 60 damage if you put it before the chip you want to boost.

Secondly, you will not get 18 Holypanels unless your foe also uses Sanctuary. On Duo, the best you can put up is 12.

So it should be, on Duo, 2 (FullSynch) x {60 (DoublePoint) + 50 (HolyDream base) + 50 (Attack+30, 2 Attack+10s)} x 12 (HolyPanels) = 3840. That's good enough to defeat all his versions, though.

On anything else, 2 (FullSynch) x {60 (DoublePoint) + 50 (HolyDream base) + 50 (Attack+30, 2 Attack+10s)} x 15 (HolyPanels) = 4800. Still enough to kill anything without a LifeAura protecting them.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WarpObscura wrote:
rockzero.exe wrote:
Well, I'm not sure about the Forte Another chip on Duo.EXE (does it hit him by the way?), but the Forte chip does not work on the big guy.


Yes, Forte Another works on Duo, but you must be in his face (ie. AreaGrab first) to hit. Saved my life at least once against him.

Razorman .Exe wrote:
I thought it was like this: 30+10x2=(Atk+50)+50 (HolyDream)=100x2 (DoublePoint)=200x18 (HolyPanels)=3200x2 (FullSynchro)=6400 Attack.


No. No.

Calculation errors.

First thing, DoublePoint does not double damage. It adds 60 damage if you put it before the chip you want to boost.

Secondly, you will not get 18 Holypanels unless your foe also uses Sanctuary. On Duo, the best you can put up is 12.

So it should be, on Duo, 2 (FullSynch) x {60 (DoublePoint) + 50 (HolyDream base) + 50 (Attack+30, 2 Attack+10s)} x 12 (HolyPanels) = 3840. That's good enough to defeat all his versions, though.

On anything else, 2 (FullSynch) x {60 (DoublePoint) + 50 (HolyDream base) + 50 (Attack+30, 2 Attack+10s)} x 15 (HolyPanels) = 4800. Still enough to kill anything without a LifeAura protecting them.


Remember, HolyDream fires exactly one more shot than there are panels in play. Theoretically, if the opponents cooperate, there can be 18 holy panels in play at once.

To railracer express:
Silver Bullet should do damage as so:
DoublePoint+SuperVulcan+Atk+30+2*Atk+10=120 per bullet.

12 bullets to a gun, FS factored in.....

120x2x12=2880 damage maximum. This assumes Duo will stay still, leave his red chest open, and allow all of the bullets to strike. Even with MetalSoul, it is still 2880 since the FS multiplier is void while united with a soul.

With GutsSoul...we have an additional Atk+30, but lose the multiplier. Thus...(120+30)x12=1800. Not so good.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Midnight
With GutsSoul...we have an additional Atk+30, but lose the multiplier. Thus...(120+30)x12=1800. Not so good.[/quote]

Still enough to take out most of a navi's HP.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you said Searchsoul was beating him in the Red Sun tourny, but he got beaten by that normal navi that belongs to J. Bomber. & I beat him in footbomb, & he says he goes to a spaceous place to run around, where is he? I looked everywhere :grr:
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look in Netafrica Area, he must be around there somewhere
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thankies Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In reference to the above question--

There should be a square in Netfrica Area, en route to Netopia. He'll lie at one of its corners.

And now time for me to pose one of my own:
When you get data from the opposite cart for the FreeTournaments, why does sometime the navi will use something that is completely out of character for that navi? For instance, I had Aquaman try to use a Thunder3 against me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Free Tournament Navis behave the same way as DS navis, except they're based off your friend's fighting style rather than your own. So Aquaman using a Thunderball just means the guy with the BM cart used a Thunderball at one point and the game decided to stick it in the DS folder.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And they can use P.A.s too >_< I got pawned by a Dream Sword and Heatspread
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

um, I'm at the part after coldman gets rid of the snowmen, I have to look for something natural, what & where is it? -_-;
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh? After the Snowmen melt all you have to do is go outside and it should be snowing. Then you just have to go to Sharo. I don't know what you mean by "Natural".
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave Netopia and go to Sharro, go to the Research Labs and then get a shovel from one of the houses, you'll need various fire chips, Heatshot I don't remember the code, HeatBrth K, BlckBomb Z and Flmline1 F, take care of the snowmen and then use the chip

Chillsky said that he preferred natural snow rather than the artificial one he made with the snowman on Netopia

Thanks Midnight Critic for the locations on the below post :poof:
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shadowman.EXE wrote:
Leave Netopia and go to Sharro, go to the Research Labs and then get a shovel from one of the houses, you'll need various fire chips, Heatshot I don't remember the code, HeatBrth K, BlckBomb Z and Flmline1 F, take care of the snowmen and then use the chip


OK, Blackbomb Z-PMD in Sharro, near Slider Master

FlmLine1 F-You should have a few by now.

HeatBrth K-Netopia merchant for 10000z

Last one- HeatShot C-You should probably have this one by now.

Edited: Found the code.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh.. where's the slider master?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slider Master is at the lower corner of Sharo Area. You need to enter from Netopia, I think, then navigate your way to the bottom left edge. There should be a recess and a path leading right to her.

First, you should talk to the guy near the C-Slider lines near the top edge of Sharo. You can get there via NetFrica.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do I get the elemdark and bugcharge chips, I know I need to fight either shademan or laserman and get the GMD in battle for Bug charge,
but what about elemdark? where do I find a lamperer or whatever?
I'm only getting elmperors.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Musashi.EXE wrote:
How do I get the elemdark and bugcharge chips, I know I need to fight either shademan or laserman and get the GMD in battle for Bug charge,
but what about elemdark? where do I find a lamperer or whatever?
I'm only getting elmperors.
Try in undernet , and have that one sub chip just in case you don't get an S-rank, it worked for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to S-rank the Elmperor3EXs. They're found in the area where that BIG blackhole is... (I forgot which area that is. Undernet 6-?) Sometimes three appear together, all on ice panels... >_<
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the ElemDark Chip, you need an S-rank of the ElmperorEX viruses. They're in Under6. Equip Collect if you wish, but be warned that that may scare the viruses away.
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