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colin9102
Age: 30 Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: Megaman Battle Network 4? |
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Alright, recently I've been thinking about getting another Megaman Battle Network game. I was pretty much looking at #4 Red Sun since I have the American PET (Which gives codes for the game) and Battle Chip Challenge (Which also gives codes for the game)
However, I keep hearing everywhere that Battle Network 4 is the worst one of them all. But all I hear is people saying it's bad with no reasons why. So why is it bad? Does everyone else here have a different opinion? Would my owning of an American PET and BCC help make it better?
Also, my cousin asked for "the codes on my battle chips". (My cousin had a GBA before me, but I collected the battle chips) My cuz seemed to think that my Battle Chips had a code he could enter to get them. I gave him some of the numbers on the chips, and he never got back to me to tell me if it worked. So can I enter chip "codes" into BN4 and get them? If so then I'm going to be getting Delta Ray Edge VERY early. (Or is it possible to get chips I own into the game through the Battle Chip Gate?)
Thanks in advance! |
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Saito-kun Nebula
Age: 33 Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 645 Location: Custodian on Duo's comet
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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I loved 4. It wasn't my favorite but I never agreed with most of the criticisms. You do have to play through a couple times to get all the Soul Unisons, but it's still worth it, especially since it's different each time around. If nothing else, buy it so that your collection will be more complete!
Can't say anything about the chips, since I haven't the slightest what you're talking about. |
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colin9102
Age: 30 Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Saito-kun wrote: | Can't say anything about the chips, since I haven't the slightest what you're talking about. |
There was this really great site dedicated to the Megaman PETs, but I think it's gone.
Anyway, if you search Megaman Advanced PET American instructions or something like that on google, they should be available for download somewhere. It mentions on the instructions the codes you get on the PET are for BN4.
On the chip "codes", I'm not even sure 100% on that one, so that's okay. |
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Heatgutsman V2 Net Savior
Age: 34 Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 103 Location: Dryden, NY
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I have no idea how the battle chip gate works. I know the basics, but I could never find one for myself. The game was just repetitive for me. I suppose I would still buy it, but it just didn't have the same pizazz as the other games for me. Too many mini games, not enough netbattles. The storyline kinda felt weak to me, and when you beat it.... The game just started over again. There wasn't much of an afterstory, not like BN3. Or even BN2, for that matter...
But thats just my opinion. _________________ I still need a picture |
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Jasper_Kazai Net Battler
Age: 33 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 69 Location: Earth
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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BN4 would definitely be the last game of the Battle Network series I'd recommend to someone. (Although, I would actually recommend to play them in order - but that's just me.) Now, if you have all the others, then sure, go for it. But I would definitely pick BNs 1, 2, or 3 above 4 any day.
Oh - and skip over Battle Chip Challenge completely. That game is terrible (at least it is in my opinion). _________________
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Saito-kun Nebula
Age: 33 Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 645 Location: Custodian on Duo's comet
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:28 am Post subject: |
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I enjoyed Battle Chip Challenge, but it seemed a little shoddy, what with Megaman's arm pasted over other navis when they used cannons and stuff. I would recommend getting all of the main series games and MMNT first, but if you have a little extra moolah, definitely give BCC a chance.
"There was this really great site dedicated to the Megaman PETs, but I think it's gone."
Was it PET World? That's still hanging around I think. But it really went downhill in the content area. They never kept the actual info about PETs up.
There was always a site I wish I'd been able to visit but went down before I had a chance. PMM always linked to it. pluginexe.com or something? |
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Dark Roll Net Official
Age: 33 Joined: 03 May 2009 Posts: 319 Location: Follow my orange navi Jyazu, she'll lead you to me
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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i love red sun. i am on dificult (i easily beat normal and stuggled through hard) and it is a big challenge but is amazing!
i would tell you to get it. i picked red sun over blue moon just for roll soul unison...last soul i got in the game, and it was worth it.
for BCC, it is decent. it needed more plot. i thought real operation was better. it seemed more like a real battle that way...i wish i did not answer some of rolls questions though... _________________ " ♥ ♪ you think you know his battle chips, ♪
♪ but i got news for you. ♪
♪ hes got a whole new battle style, ♪
♪ your old tricks just wont do! ♪ ♥ " |
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colin9102
Age: 30 Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 18
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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"Was it PET world?"
Yes it was! But whenever I try to get to the site, it comes up with a 404 error. I'm guessing its down
On everyone's comments on BCC, I already have the game and I've almost finished it. I mentioned it because the Data Chips you get in it have codes you can enter on the Numberman Machine in BN4. You can keep saying your opinions on it, but the way how everyone mentioned it, I got the idea you thought I was wondering about purchasing BCC. I do agree thought, BCC certainly is not the best Megaman.EXE game. It lies around those low ranks. |
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Saito-kun Nebula
Age: 33 Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 645 Location: Custodian on Duo's comet
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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It must have been very recently that it went down, then. Not that it was worth visiting anymore though. :\ They finally rebooted the forums and then nothing happened. (I didn't bother joining because it had Ryusei Rockman at the top. Traitors. XD I jest, I like SSR.) And they dropped the cool virtual PET they had a long time ago. |
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HeatShadow Hydralisk Specialist
Age: 37 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 864 Location: Hidden within shadows....or under the table.
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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I'm gonna go with Jasper and tell you that if are missing any of the other Battle Networks, any at all, that you get and play those first before even considering 4. Yes, even Battlechip Challenge.
The thing with BCC, while being a fairly lackluster game, was certainly enjoyable for those who like unusual strategic titles. But the big, BIG feature that I recommend it for is the self-run tournament option you could use and the fact that you can produce a code for your navi's setup. I recall there being a website somewhere with an entire catalog of codes, so you could load a bunch of those into the tournament option and pit your set-up against those of dozens of other people. Definitely pretty amusing to watch.
But 4 is undoubtedly the low point of the series. Sure, there are people out there who enjoy it, but compared to the other games of the series, its story, characters, graphical style, chips, Souls, boss and extra features are all rather lackluster. _________________ Stuck In The Middle With You; a Metroid and Halo crossover
Devil May Cry: Renegades |
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Saito-kun Nebula
Age: 33 Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 645 Location: Custodian on Duo's comet
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:43 am Post subject: |
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That's an exaggeration. :\ The main reason to dislike the game is the way the story plays out in modules. The art style, bosses, characters, souls, chips, and "extra features" are just as good as in any other EXE game. In fact, I was rather fond of 4's selection of chips, and Windman and Burnerman are some of my favorite bosses ever. Just because the story doesn't play out the same, there's no need to crap on the rest of the game. |
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HeatShadow Hydralisk Specialist
Age: 37 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 864 Location: Hidden within shadows....or under the table.
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Saito-kun wrote: | That's an exaggeration. :\ The main reason to dislike the game is the way the story plays out in modules. The art style, bosses, characters, souls, chips, and "extra features" are just as good as in any other EXE game. In fact, I was rather fond of 4's selection of chips, and Windman and Burnerman are some of my favorite bosses ever. Just because the story doesn't play out the same, there's no need to crap on the rest of the game. |
Well, no, it's not, its my take on the game. I'd played through it for the first time, looked back and realized I hadn't really liked anything about, save for a few minor things. I could go into detail if you really needed me to, but at this point I think it's more important to focus on the overall Yea or Nay of the game, and it's firmly a Nay for me. _________________ Stuck In The Middle With You; a Metroid and Halo crossover
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Blademan
Age: 29 Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:01 am Post subject: |
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The codes for the pet are for the numberman chip trader, BN4 is actually one of my favorite BN games besides BN6, though with the PET i'm not sure if it works with all BN games or just a specific one. The only thing I did not like about BN4 *Possible spoiler about final boss* is that there really is no story except for an asteroid coming to earth. and that Regal sort of controls it. and in the anime it would take place in stream, but a little different. _________________ -Blademan
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Enzan Chaud [Tuxedo Mask]
Age: 36 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Location: Laredo, Texas
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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the thing people don't realize about 4 was that it never was originally a Battle Network game to begin with, and I think that's what let a lot of peopled down. It's true title was:
Rockman EXE 4: Tournament Red Sun/ Tournament Blue Moon.
Notably...all games after 3 had dropped their Battle Network Title. |
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Saito-kun Nebula
Age: 33 Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 645 Location: Custodian on Duo's comet
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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... That means nothing. They are all in the same series. |
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Blue Net Battler
Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 73
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | There was always a site I wish I'd been able to visit but went down before I had a chance. PMM always linked to it. pluginexe.com or something? |
oh god pluginexe that brings back memories. They had downloadable EXE episodes (those were the days before dad became a bt nut, so he didn't trust that or irc). Before Plug-In, I just had the clips here and the summaries. I remember waiting all morning for an episode to download and then hearing the theme start up... good times. That site was great, and so was On-Air after it (same guy). I wish his websites would stay up longer.
But back to where the topic was going! I have a weakness for BCC just because of the characters (Kaita! Mary! Playable Meiru and Enzan!), and I'll agree with Saito-kun that the boss designs weren't the problem with BN4. But the story... once is enough. I beat the first mode, but had no burning desire to do it again. Also, the points thing between tournaments was a pain in the butt. But IMO, Red Sun is the one to get if you're getting BN4. *gets back to work on essay* |
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Enzan Chaud [Tuxedo Mask]
Age: 36 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 721 Location: Laredo, Texas
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Saito-kun wrote: | ... That means nothing. They are all in the same series. |
It means everything. It's going to have a different type of approach. that's like saying Mega Man Soccer should play and look completely like a normal Mega Man game because it's in the same series as other classic Mega Man games. or that Command Mission should play and look completely like a normal X game because it's in the same series as other X games :/
Do you see now where that logic is flawed? |
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Saito-kun Nebula
Age: 33 Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 645 Location: Custodian on Duo's comet
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:22 am Post subject: |
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No. Because they simply shortened the name. When I said "series" I meant 1-6. Main series. 4, 5, and 6 all play like the first three and 5 and 6's stories progress like the first three. There's a "4" in the title. Those examples would be more along the lines of BCC. I can see why 4 obviously has a different structure, but dropping the "battle network" is not what affected the game. They just decided to make a change in the way the story went, not the way the game works fundamentally. And if you think about it, if you ignore having to replay the game to get all the souls, they really aren't structured that drastically differently. It's just in modules! :D
Anyway, I see what you're getting at, but I don't think it's faulty logic. And it's not worth arguing over. |
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