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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:26 pm    Post subject: Notice it? Reply with quote

In every megaman game, megaman has brown eyes in battle, but green everywhere else.... Ever notice that, I don't get it. :/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now that you said that, yea. maybe to was a problem when they were spriting the game, weird isn't it?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's merely because the sprite is too small to show that kind of detail. OMG hard to comprehend~!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The eyes on the sprite aren't supposed to look brown. When playing on a GBA like you're supposed to, you can't even tell the colour of those two pixels. If a green colour was actually used for those pixels there wouldn't be enough contrast and it would look weird. They just used a dark colour so it would look right.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean?? I play on GBA sp and I can see the eyes clearly. Although they look red to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm...playing BN3 now. They look maroon. That means I cannot see whether they are red or brown.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sprites can only hold so many colors. Having the sprite hold green would mean tossing another color away. I'm sure it was simpler and more effecient to use an existing color. It's not a mistake.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PlaguedOne wrote:
The sprites can only hold so many colors. Having the sprite hold green would mean tossing another color away. I'm sure it was simpler and more effecient to use an existing color. It's not a mistake.
Well if you want to send a color away, then take out the eye color. (I don't mean you)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The eye color was probably re-used in another part of the sprite. Most likely in the skin. So unless you want Rockman to have green skin...

What I'd like to know is: has anyone noticed that in BN 1-3 Rock has blue eyes, whereas in 4 and 5 they switched it to green, like in the anime? I know it's true, I'm not crazy. Anyone else notice?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must mean the mugshots. Yes, they fixed them up. Personally, I think they look much better.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megaman's eyes are sorta brown/dark red and the skin is peach, so it'll have no affect to the skin if you change the color.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the colors used in his eyes are from other parts of his body. Replacing them with green would make the sprite look very weird. If you want to test this, do a replace color thingy in Paint, or whatever program you have... I did a minute ago, but it seems to have messed up the file... ah whatever, you can still see the difference.



As for Rockman's eyes being green in games four and on, I think this is because they tried to make it more like the anime. They changed other things too, like AC/DC and stuff so that it seemed more like the anime...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not more like the anime, the official colour for Rock's eyes has always been green. Check the official artwork. They only appeared blue in the mugshots because of colour conservation, as mentioned before.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is a pic

the mugs are green because his eyes are green in the anime but the sprite are brown, i think.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and we've been over why. Did you just not bother to read any of the other replies?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PlaguedOne wrote:
The sprites can only hold so many colors. Having the sprite hold green would mean tossing another color away. I'm sure it was simpler and more effecient to use an existing color. It's not a mistake.


Each EXE sprite, including mugshots and battle chip only can have 16 colors each, but it doesn't matter which 16.

That's why in the EXE 1 ~3 sprites, ROckman's eyes were blue, and are now Green, because the pallete changed.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The anime has NOTHING to do with it. There are very few instances where the game is affected by the anime rather than vice versa, and the eyes are not one of those cases.

The only instances I can think of something in the anime preceding something in the games was the Plug-In PET design and the DarkLoids.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed all of that too. I also noticed that Chaud's mugshot in
battle network 1,2,and 3 His eyes are brown. Then in the fourth game His eyes are blue. And Yai's mugshot in the first game,She's missing the pink collar on Her dress. And Maylu's mugshot in the first game, Her hair pin thingy on Her head is yellow instead of pink and yellow. Also in the first game, everyones faces seem to look pale. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JunkmanSP wrote:
Each EXE sprite, including mugshots and battle chip only can have 16 colors each, but it doesn't matter which 16.
Actually, it's 15 colors. The 16th (number 0) is null and used for transparency.

(Sorry, I can't resist correcting these little details.)

Anyways, due to this color limitation, they needed to reuse the shades of blue from his helmet to avoid going over 15 colors. Note that when they changed it to green in EXE4, the background of the mugshot also became green.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megaman 7 wrote:
Also in the first game, everyones faces seem to look pale. Laughing


I never noticed that, but to me, Megaman's mugshot in BN1 looks sunburned compared to 2 and 3, even though they're all supposed to look the same. Either that or he's sunburned in 2 and 3; I forget which, but I think it's 1.
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