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MH Alia · Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:

Navis are programs so they don´t have age. If they look young or old it´s because their operators customize them, remember that they can make their Navis to look as they wish and the majority of the Net Navis have something in common with their owners. Maybe the kid Navis are customized when their Operators have grown, would be strange to see a man with a Navi like Aquaman for example.

Midnight · Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:13 pm Post subject:

As it has been said, navis are computer programs. As they are not life-forms, they do not undergo aging. However, it may be that in order to better emulate humans, the creators fo these programs designed them to alter themselves over time, to simulate aging.
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blazequest · Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject:

I don't think they age. You can look at it rationally, that data shouldn't ever grow old or die.

But also you'll notice that while Barrel grows old, Colonel still retains his youthful frame. He doesn't change. Obviously Barrel didn't want to change him. There's also Blues, who in a flashback when Enzan was a little kid, Blues still looks just as old as he once was. I don't think operators do like changing there navis.

There are exceptions, like Jasmine, who edited Medi to look like a nurse. But Topman is old only because Tensuke made him that way to represent himself. The only reason he seemed old was because of his defective making. But when he was fixed he was just like any other navi, only he acted old.

Ultimately a Navi behaves the way he's programed to behave. I think a navi is like an avatar, it is an incarnation of your character. Rock is programed to be like a big brother, so that's what he looks like, the older brother you had as a kid. Colonel represents a soldier, Blues a warrior, Glyde a gentleman/buttler, Gutsman a tough-guy, Searchman also a soldier, Medi a pharmacist, Topman an elder, ect.

Basically, each person's navi is a physical representation of their own character traits, and the age is programed accordingly. A buttler wouldn't be 10, even if their op is. But if your character trait is that you're old, your navi will be old as well. The navi can be edited according to the operators tastes.
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hydro.exe · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:13 am Post subject:

Something I've notice...

Aren't navis that have a really close bond with the operator feels and react the same way when something happened? The operator gets physical wound when their navi's damaged. (Dex face was hurt after Gutsman has been slapped by roll in the 1st episode of Exe) :D

In Exe4 game:[spoil:cf3cedbff1]Ya know where you have to do those riddles of those old navi from netbattle club (For Topman), and when you failed to get those answers right you have to massage their shoulders because they were tired just like their old operator.. [/spoil:cf3cedbff1]
Maybe that doesn't apply to the anime anyway....o . o"

blazequest · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:52 pm Post subject:

I think that Dex might have recieved his own smack in the face by Maylu. The only way an operator can feel the pain of their navi is while in crossfusion.

Basically, think of a navi like you would a computer. It gets all old and buggy, and if the operator is too old, they may not be able to fix him. Hence the navi can have sore shoulders, like in the game. You'll notice that Topman was more than able to fight Megaman in the game after he was repaired, and the netbattlers chief navi didn't have any physical problems.
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Finalzidane-X · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject:

Let's see... do Netnavis age? Dan cote asked me the same question for his story with Netto's grandson. I stated the obvious. "Netnavis are data. Let's say you take Windows 95 and leave it there by itself. Does it age? No. Same with Netnavis. Without any updates, they develop the same. But, by the customization progress, NetOps sometimes want their Netnavis to age with them. And if the Netnavi agrees due to the attachtment both have, the Netnavi is customized frequently to simulate physical grown up. And basically making them older.

Topman is old because he was created by Tensuke, so he was old. Or they were together since a very looong time.

And with this, NetOp Netnavis can "age" if they choose to. And independant Netnavis will not age, but as they keep living, they lose bits by doing things like in "The matrix" like the Oracle said, leading to a natural breakdown and neutralization of their program codes.

That why in his story you can see a Rockman with a cane lecturing Netto's grandson.
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Spork-Queen.EXE · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject:

I have the same opinion as all the people that replyed no.

Toto · Net Savior Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 184

I don't think they would age unless they have a program that does so. If a navi looks old, it's because it was programmed to look like that from the start.

RollEXE · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:25 am Post subject:

I wonder what will happen when the net-offs die, what will the navi do? Get deleted? It really makes you think....

Midnight · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:

Indeed it does. Well, a navi, being a program, undergoes its own sort of aging. It is a physical entity, and it follows that the entropy of the program must continually increase. In non-scientific terms, the randomness and disorder of the program will increase, and thus will cause the navi's systems to work a bit less effectively. Eventually, given enough time, a program will be so disordered that it simply cannot function. Thus the death of the navi.
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Geoff Mendicino · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:45 am Post subject:

Hmm... If the NetOp dies, I'd think they would just have to sit there in the PET. They might be able to backup theirselves into the internal drive of the PET, so when the batteries die, they won't be deleted themselves... Which brings it to another point, do Navis have a sense of survival?

(I know, it's weird, but like how ants commit suicide when their queen is dead, Navis might just sit around, because they don't have a purpose anymore after the op is dead)
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RollEXE · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:45 pm Post subject:

Maybe they'll be recustimuzed and memory wiped out, and given to another person?

HeatShadow · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:27 am Post subject:

Being computer programs, it's possible to do all kinds of things with their appearance. What, did you think they just took a stroll down to a navi clothing store to get that swimgear for the Jawaii/Hawaii episodes? *thinks for a second about the tendencies of the local fanfic writers* On second thought, don't answer that.

Anyway, it's entirely possible for a navi to be programmed to alter its appearance with age, so that they grow, change and mature with the passage of time and with new experiences. Normally, most navis are just programmed to look a certain way and not change. But that doesn't mean there can't be exceptions.
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Geoff Mendicino · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:53 am Post subject:

Yeah, but what would be the point of having an aging Navi?
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Soala · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:34 am Post subject:

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Hikari Angel · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:34 pm Post subject:

well i think that having an aging navi, you can relate to it easier, if your navi didn't age and you got him/her when you were 10 and they acted like they were 10 yay! you can relate to them. if years past what the point of having a 10-year-old acting navi when you are in universtiy or somethingm wow, they would be useless.

i'm not sure about some navi's, maybe they are programed to grow but not in apperance, just in the mind, like blues.

now i'm not making any sense.
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Mikazuki · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject:

I think there a programs that can make Navi look older and younger.
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