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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:00 am    Post subject: Another Dimensional Area question... -slight spoilers- Reply with quote

I feel stupid asking this, since there's probably an easy answer I'm overlooking...

But what is the practical application of a Dimensional Area and Cross Fusion? How would such technology benefit a person's daily life? So you can bring computer data into the real world, why would you want to?

And the same goes for Cross Fusion. So you can fuse with your Net Navi, why? What practical benefit does that supply?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

personal, i don't know, maybe to get somewere in the storyline? personally cross fusion is there because when the bad guys are in the real world the NetOp will be protected by his/her net navi, the DA was just and experement DR. Hikari did, why, ask the authors,

but the DAs are so the bad guys can do crimes outside of the net with their navis, I'm thinking its because they don't leave figerprints behind, just teeth marks.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, it's a plot device. There's no application for Dimensional areas aside from opening up a new battleground for the characters.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuichiro: This new research of bringing computer data to the real world will really benifit man-kind!

Assistant: How?

Yuichiro: It'll look really cool, and stuff!

Assistant: But how will that help man-kind?

Yuichiro: You want your 100z an hour or not?

Assistant: Ok..

Yuichiro: Done... I sure hope that a one-eyed man and a vampire-like navi don't steal my new Synchro chip I developed, that would be terrible. abslutely terrible, us being defensless as we are. Oh, and my son can't use cross fusion, but he can defy me at any time... Oh well*Turns off light and goes home)

[spoil:cf5609a5a1] BTW Episode 49 of Axess sucked.[/spoil:cf5609a5a1]
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's easy it's so you could give a hug to your navi
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the purpose of bringing data from the cyberworld and materialize it was mentioned on EXE 56, with that technology it can benefit by making a parking lot into a forest full of trees, that could help humanity for decoration and stuff, although Regal used that technology in a bad way by destroying, stealing, etc. Cross Fusion is one of the ways Dr. Hikari though on bringing a Navi to the real world, maybe to do NetBattles more interesting although it is used now to save the world with R Navis (Darkloids or Asteroids).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being able to bring in the navis to the real world can help people to get work done faster, make more products, save the environment in a more productive way and navis don't eat so we won't need to worry about feeding extra mouths.

Work can get doen faster and will be more productive because there will be more people working on it. Navis will also improve with teh quality because they are programmed to be much better then humans. They are kinda like robots except not. ^^;;

Saving the environment is another thing. They will be able to help with production of things as well as come up with new solutions to help the environment. It will aslo be easier to put hte plan into motion if there is the person that came up with the idea with you to instruct you.

More people with only half of them being data. Data has no need for food,

More friends and more communication. You have more friends and you can communicate with more people and have more connection to others.

That is what I think. As for now, I think that dr. hikari has only been able to bring navis out through cross fusion. I can't wait to see how he plans on bringing only the navi out. Of course, the evil villains are smarter then the good people so they can bring out navis with cross fusion. >.>
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because certain research doesn't show any immediate benefit doesn't mean something won't come along and make it useful.

We didn't see any immediate benefit from electrical and radio research, and look at where we are now thanks to it. There was little immediate benefit to microbiological research, and now we have vaccines and whatnot.

Dimensional areas have little use, but they could eventually show some results. Remember the last episode of Rockman.EXE vanilla?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Yuichiro didn't need a D.Area to bring the Dream Virus, why does Nebula and Rockman?

Plot hole.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JunkmanSP wrote:
If Yuichiro didn't need a D.Area to bring the Dream Virus, why does Nebula and Rockman?


That's because there was a Dimensional Core there to summon the Dream Virus rather than a Dimensional Area.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in this episode of "Takato states the obvous" we I'll be talking about rockman exe and how you get data to the real world.

1) D.Area Requires a D.Converter, if your in it when it forms you can't get out and vise versa,
it make's rainbows, you can cross fuse.
2) D.Core no rainbows, requires 4 LCD displays, you can freely go in and out of the the area that the D.Core applys, no Cross fusing, you can make data trees and probley anything that you want and bring it to the real world.
3) D.Chip doesn't require a D.Core or D.Area, is kinda a dark chip, only works for navis, said navis are 3-4 stories high.
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and that concludes today's episode of "Takato states the obvous"
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really know. I think it was just supposed to be just an experiment. But hey, Lan looks AWESOME when he cross fuses with Mega Man!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question that I don't really know. When the D.Area is fired from the sattilate, how does it last? There is no way it could just disspear until the battle ends. Where did the extra engrey come from to support the D.Area?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who knows. Maybe the needles fired into the ground have generators to fuel the area. From a strictly scientific viewpoint, it requires an enormous quantity of energy to manifest mass in the real world...probably more so than is contained in the entire universe.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kinda chalk it up to the Anime Laws of Physics, although that's not looking at it realistically. But what's the fun in that? ;P
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I call it "so fangirls can realistically create yaoi pairings with Operators and Navis". :P

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nazne wrote:
I call it "so fangirls can realistically create yaoi pairings with Operators and Navis". Razz

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*snickers* That too xD
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why dimensional area?

Maybe it's the same reason they decided that there have to be ice, or grass, or fire in the internet. There is no practical reason to make lava panels in the internet because they only cause damage, but they're there. It's probably just to make the netbattling more challenging.

But I agree with tachyon that maybe the ability to materialize data would have benefits in the long run that we don't see immediately. Like the ability to make shelters using data instead of natural ressources. I don't know. Maybe it's just for military or security reasons.

As for the summoning Navis to the real world, I think this is what the future holds...

"Hey dad, what are you doing?"
"Ah Netto, glad you're here! I want to show you something. Remember that Shoryou body we acquired?"
"yeah..."
"Well using the technology we aquired from it, I was able to build a mechanical suit for Rockman to occupy. Now he can go around the world naturally without a dimensional area! Isn't that great?!?"
"You put Rockman in a mechanical suit that looks just like him?"
"Yup!"
"So now Rockman is a robot?"
"Yeah, pretty much."
"...Uh...dad..."

We all saw it comming.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Demension Core was originally created to help mankind. I quote Enzan from episode 56: "With this, we'll be able to change the barren deserts into greenery. This is revolutionary." Only reason it turned out bad was because viruses were attracted to all the energy, and ended up materializing in the real world.

My guess as to why Hikari-hakase decided to create Demensional Areas instead of more Demension Cores is because Demensional Areas are safer. Think about it, I mean, plenty of random viruses were able to just wander right into the Demenison Core. However a Demensional Area is much more closed off from the Cyber World.

As to why Hikari-hakase created Cross Fusion... maybe he theorized about how a navi's energy can be multiplied if the navi's data is combined directly with the operator using Demensional Area... then he only created the Synchro Chips to test this theory of his. After he ended up making the Syncrho Chips, it ONLY got out of hand because Nebula interferred, Hikari-hakase DID NOT doom mankind by creating Demensional Areas, it was all experimental, and Nebula was the only reason it all got out of hand. I think the prefessor had plenty of beneficial reasons for his experiments, but Nebula only copied, and used his work for evil.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Takato wrote:
in this episode of "Takato states the obvous" we I'll be talking about rockman exe and how you get data to the real world.

1) D.Area Requires a D.Converter, if your in it when it forms you can't get out and vise versa,
it make's rainbows, you can cross fuse.
2) D.Core no rainbows, requires 4 LCD displays, you can freely go in and out of the the area that the D.Core applys, no Cross fusing, you can make data trees and probley anything that you want and bring it to the real world.
3) D.Chip doesn't require a D.Core or D.Area, is kinda a dark chip, only works for navis, said navis are 3-4 stories high.
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and that concludes today's episode of "Takato states the obvous"



And the following episode of "Plot hole weekly"

You can get into a D.Area if you move fast enoough.
Stream's D.Areas have no converters.
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