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AngelfanA16 Nebula
Age: 34 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Angel Stadium
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:11 pm Post subject: Another Megaman Axess episode gone bad. *Spoilers |
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:/ :/ :/ (possible spoilers, can't be too careful) I cannot believe (actually in some small way I can) that Kids WB ( or Shopro, whichever one is in charge of making the episodes) showed the very-edited out scene of when Shadowman got the stuffing shot out of him. Its like I blinked and missed the whole battle scene. If this is how the episodes are going to be shown, imagine what they won't show when the series gets darker and more violent. I going to have to stick to the Japanesse episodes and WPP's subtitled version. If you want to vent out or share some of your Megaman frustration. I'll be angry for awhile so feel free to pm me and show we can vent the frustration together. Okay sorry, venting my anger takes lots of time. Thanks. |
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Hikari Ridiculously Intolerable
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 715 Location: Too busy to stay often.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Is this dub bashing, methinks? And there seems to be no need for a topic like this. _________________
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HubHikari Net Savior
Age: 43 Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 151 Location: In Nettos Pet or on The Net
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Why does everyone get so upset about shopro editing a part out of an episode?
I would understand if they cut half the episode out but a few things here and there isn’t gonna hurt anything.
What if you would have never found the Rockman subs you wouldn’t know the difference so why gripe about it its not going to change how they make the show, and If you need a VENT go find a hobby but griping abut a episode of a cartoon isn’t going to do anything but take up Space on the forums that could be used elsewhere. |
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Spork-Queen.EXE Net Agent
Age: 33 Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 254 Location: in ur idahoz, minin ur potatoez
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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At least they showed it at ALL. >_>; You're being negitive. Stop. Stop now. Negitive = bad. >_< |
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Elementalman.EXE Time to play the Game
Age: 33 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 1430 Location: Researching the JFK and RFK Assasinations
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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I've know that they would edit it out like what ever it is. It was one of the most gruesome deletion seen's ever. did you really exspect a show aim at 8-10year olds with a horrible deletion scene. the soccer mom's would never allow it _________________
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Spork-Queen.EXE Net Agent
Age: 33 Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 254 Location: in ur idahoz, minin ur potatoez
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Elementalman.EXE wrote: | I've know that they would edit it out like what ever it is. It was one of the most gruesome deletion seen's ever. did you really exspect a show aim at 8-10year olds with a horrible deletion scene. the soccer mom's would never allow it |
Yeah. They'd hop in thier SUVs and charge ShoPro's headquaters. But they'd be home in time for a wholesome family dinner, of course. ;D |
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TheWebbuilder I support Rhythm x Blues!
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 1124 Location: I don't know... But I hear laughing.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I think you're overreacting. You're acting as if they changed SearchMan's name to CandyShooterMan, edited out his deletion-spree, and then made ShadowMan escape alive. (Which they could have done, but instead they kept it in.) So there were a lot of things NOT cut out.
In my opinion, this was actually a very decently dubbed episode. So they cut out the actual impact, big deal, its not like we don't know that it hit him. _________________
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Sketch The Boy who is Very Sart
Age: 37 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 2349
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Why isn't this in the Axess discussion thread? That's where it should have gone in the first place. _________________
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Shonshiwo15 Darkloid
Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 514 Location: A home or at school
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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*that first post is dub bashing*
Anywho, I wasn't that all happy about the episode either but I guess they did an okay job. I mean why edit all that stuff? They're just computer people anyway, its not like they have blood. I just kinda think its emberrassing <-*spelling?* to say to people that you watch megaman (especialy if you're a teen) but they edit the show like its for sensitive baby eyes. Oh well, It COULD have been worse. LOL. I'm still scared to see episode 51. :O
*OMG I think I just dub bashed in there somewhere* (sry) _________________ Tsk tsk tsk
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Plantman It's only Forever... Not long at all!
Age: 44 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1819 Location: Mexico
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Oookay, let's sit down, take in deep breaths and TRY to have some common sense. How old are you? 14? 15? 24?
Okay now, sit down and think that maaaaaybe... this show when bought wasn't aimed to people of your age but perhaps people a few years younger then you? People that depending on their backgrounds and how they've been educated might see something such as Shadowman's deletion as something disturbing and wrong?.
Now think for a moment that these people aren't working to appeal teenagers that have the means to see the original episodes and understand their reasoning to do X or Z things. Net Navis in the show are treated as if they were real people in many cases, they're not shooting a mindless drone, but a creature that reacts to painful experiences even if it's a computer program. That alone is enough to be weary of showing it in public TV to a public that might not be educated enough to understand some things, and more so to a generation of parents that will find themselves offended by it -or are too lazy to explain their kids the difference between reality and fiction.
When that happens a company has to butcher down things and tone them down in order to please the potential profit sources of airing the show. The have to please the parents of the 10 years old that'll beg their mommies and daddies to buy them Megaman and his friends to play with them. Not to appeal the older viewers that'll want the toys dor 'collection/display' uses.
All in all, the show is aimed to be 'acceptable' for the parents, to ensure profits from the franchise in the form of merchandise and the likes.
Secondly I remind you all that there's to be no Dub Bashing in this forum, and to keep the Dub axess discussion into its respective topic.
/backseatmodding > _________________ Hecha en MÉXICO - Avatar by Me.
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memnarch6 The Queen of France
Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 245 Location: The Panopticon
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Wish they'd aim it for a more mature age group. Then there'd be no need for slashing parts of episodes. _________________ I can't help you. I don't speak English.
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railracer express Soul Unison
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 771
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Wait what is the rating for that dub version. Is there a rating system for the orignial as well? _________________ Avatar by May, many flowers and thanks for the wonderful avatar. |
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Midnight This is a Hilbert Space
Age: 37 Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 3089 Location: The AfterMath. Otherwise, New York City.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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If I recall correctly, it is Y7, i.e., it is aimed at seven-year olds and higher. Sigh. Stupid soccer moms. _________________ Today, these three players are after Big Bucks! But they'll have to avoid the Whammy, as they play the most exciting game of their lives! From Television City in Hollywood! It's time to 'Press Your Luck!'--Rod Roddy
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Unknown Neo Cross Fusion!
Age: 40 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 2933 Location: Unknown
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares? I'm just glad searchman had a good voice.
(wouldn't something like this usally get locked?) |
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Plantman It's only Forever... Not long at all!
Age: 44 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1819 Location: Mexico
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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The japanese and the American public are a bit different even if they share the same age.
EXE has always been rated for 'kids' on Japan. Not exactly sure of it's official rate but I know it's usually aimed from about 10 to 14-15 years old like DBZ. In US has been aimed for probably 7-13 years old public.
Usually in the western countries there's the idiology of thinking'if it's animated is for kids'. It also has to do with money issues. Let's be realistic a 14-15 years old boy doesn't have the same 'resources' of a younger child that holds better chances of nagging their parents into buying them toys then a teenager that has a harder time being able to afford these items.
It has many factors into it, but being 'profitable' is one of the most important when it comes down to decide what's gonna be aired on public TV. _________________ Hecha en MÉXICO - Avatar by Me.
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JadedX Net Battler
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 58 Location: Going mentaly insane somewhere.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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I gave up on anime shown here a while ago. I stick to downloads from WPP. _________________
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Kirbopher15 User is Disabled
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 1545 Location: TOME
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Plantman wrote: | Oookay, let's sit down, take in deep breaths and TRY to have some common sense. How old are you? 14? 15? 24?
Okay now, sit down and think that maaaaaybe... this show when bought wasn't aimed to people of your age but perhaps people a few years younger then you? People that depending on their backgrounds and how they've been educated might see something such as Shadowman's deletion as something disturbing and wrong?.
Now think for a moment that these people aren't working to appeal teenagers that have the means to see the original episodes and understand their reasoning to do X or Z things. Net Navis in the show are treated as if they were real people in many cases, they're not shooting a mindless drone, but a creature that reacts to painful experiences even if it's a computer program. That alone is enough to be weary of showing it in public TV to a public that might not be educated enough to understand some things, and more so to a generation of parents that will find themselves offended by it -or are too lazy to explain their kids the difference between reality and fiction.
When that happens a company has to butcher down things and tone them down in order to please the potential profit sources of airing the show. The have to please the parents of the 10 years old that'll beg their mommies and daddies to buy them Megaman and his friends to play with them. Not to appeal the older viewers that'll want the toys dor 'collection/display' uses.
All in all, the show is aimed to be 'acceptable' for the parents, to ensure profits from the franchise in the form of merchandise and the likes.
Secondly I remind you all that there's to be no Dub Bashing in this forum, and to keep the Dub axess discussion into its respective topic.
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Planty, you did my job!! XD
...but yeah this thread is basically a waste of space and our time. |
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Ryouko Kitties Love Bunnies
Age: 42 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 2085 Location: Sharo
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Shows on public TV must meet certain guidelines in respect to its content. It's even more strict for shows aimed at children. Japan's guidelines are far more lax (which is why Netto is also a little potty mouth).
I'm happy they at least showed Episode 12. Besides the edits, the dialouge was very accurate. No more dub bashing please. _________________ "Cats are interesting. They're kind of like girls. When they come talk to you, it's great. When you go talk to them, it doesn't go so well." - Miyamoto
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