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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: A very biased look at the PSP/DS. Reply with quote

I don't care if you're a Nintendo fanboy; the PSP kicks the DS's a** and forgets to take names. Hell yes. ^_^

The PSP has:
-8 hour battery life WITHOUT backlite
-Ability to transfer games via big-a** memory cards.
-PS2 Graphics/Engine
-Analog-ish Stick
-A sexy look
-Been out for 2-3 weeks (not sure) and has 27 games out.
-Runs mini-DVDs/tons of music
-The eject disc can launch out and hit someone in the eye.

The DS has:
-12 hour battery life WITH backlite
-No ability to transfer DS games, yet.
-N64 Graphics/Engine
-A crappy touch screen that gets dirty and is usually inaccurate/double touches.
-A clanky piece of s*** look.
-Been out for several months and has 27 games out.
-Runs GBA games, which can hold a few MP3 songs on it, if you have a flash cart.
-The eject cart can launch out, hit the floor and shatter to pieces.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you serious about ejecting disc can launch out and hit someone in the eye? Dude I so need to get one of those.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The PSP also has a faulty button configuration, can only hold about 4 MP3s (they don't mention that when they're toting its "mp3 capability") or less if you want to actually SAVE your games, and as sexy as it looks you just can't keep the damn fingerprints off the thing. It needs to be cleaned constantly.

Yeah, the PSP has some major selling points, as does the DS (the touch screen function is actually quite cool, as is Pictochat, especially over wi-fi - I may buy a DS to save me money on longdistance phone calls at Otakon XD) but both of them are flawed in some form...still, nowhere to go but up. :)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when do DS carts shoot out and shatter into pieces?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: A very biased look at the PSP/DS. Reply with quote

First of all, I'd like to see you try and make a more accurate touch screen. Plus it sure is more accurate than the PSP's square button.
Secondly, the PSP's 'sexy' look also gets dents, scratches, and dust like you wouldn't believe. The DS can at least have an easier time surviving a drop. Plus you're trying to pass an opinion for a fact, BAKA. That's one of my pet peeves.
And since when do DS carts shoot out and shatter? Also note that if a disc ejects, it can easily get scratched.
One more thing: Even if the DS has less games for it, the quality of the games is also a factor.
And need I mention their prices? Even if the PSP's better, the DS still gives you more bang for your buck.

Biased is an understatement. Completely blind is more like it.

And while I'm at it, here's your list with your personal opinions removed, which you were making a pathetic attempt at passing for facts:
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The PSP has:
-8 hour battery life WITHOUT backlite
-Ability to transfer games via memory cards.
-PS2 Graphics/Engine
-Analog-ish Stick
-Been out for 2-3 weeks (not sure) and has 27 games out.
-Runs mini-DVDs/music
-The eject disc can launch out and hit someone in the eye.

The DS has:
-12 hour battery life WITH backlite
-No ability to transfer DS games, yet.
-N64 Graphics/Engine
-A touch screen.
-Been out for several months and has 27 games out.
-Runs GBA games, which can hold a few MP3 songs on it, if you have a flash cart.
-The eject cart can launch out, hit the floor and shatter to pieces.
And my closing statement: I don't care which company you're a fanboy of, fanboyism is inherently stupid.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cards like the DS uses are quite durable, actually. As for the 'shattering', if it would be damaged, it woudl more likely be scratches or (unlikely) a crack.
Nice article too, by the way. DS cards are simmilar to those.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: A very biased look at the PSP/DS. Reply with quote

Poochy.EXE wrote:
First of all, I'd like to see you try and make a more accurate touch screen. Plus it sure is more accurate than the PSP's square button.
Secondly, the PSP's 'sexy' look also gets dents, scratches, and dust like you wouldn't believe. The DS can at least have an easier time surviving a drop. Plus you're trying to pass an opinion for a fact, BAKA. That's one of my pet peeves.
And since when do DS carts shoot out and shatter? Also note that if a disc ejects, it can easily get scratched.
One more thing: Even if the DS has less games for it, the quality of the games is also a factor.
And need I mention their prices? Even if the PSP's better, the DS still gives you more bang for your buck.

Biased is an understatement. Completely blind is more like it.

And while I'm at it, here's your list with your personal opinions removed, which you were making a pathetic attempt at passing for facts:
Quote:
The PSP has:
-8 hour battery life WITHOUT backlite
-Ability to transfer games via memory cards.
-PS2 Graphics/Engine
-Analog-ish Stick
-Been out for 2-3 weeks (not sure) and has 27 games out.
-Runs mini-DVDs/music
-The eject disc can launch out and hit someone in the eye.

The DS has:
-12 hour battery life WITH backlite
-No ability to transfer DS games, yet.
-N64 Graphics/Engine
-A touch screen.
-Been out for several months and has 27 games out.
-Runs GBA games, which can hold a few MP3 songs on it, if you have a flash cart.
-The eject cart can launch out, hit the floor and shatter to pieces.
And my closing statement: I don't care which company you're a fanboy of, fanboyism is inherently stupid.
such powerful words.
i prefer the ds better than the ds in my opinion..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, if PSP only has an 8-hour battery life WITHOUT backlite, then you're gonna be spending a LOT of cash replacing batteries. On the other hand, DS has 12 hour battery life WITH backlite, which can be extended by simply turning the backlite off, saving you money.

And yes, the PSP DOES shoot out discs in rare instances. As I recall, there was a forum-goer somewhere who had a video of one doing such a thing in his/her sig.

It doesn't matter how "sexy" the damned thing looks, what counts are the following:

Battery Life(DS wins)
Game quality(PSP wins)
Game diversity(PSP Wins)
Hardware durability(DS Wins)
Software durability(DS Wins)
Ease of control(Draw, DS loses for games that REQUIRE the damned Touch screen and PSP loses for forcing the stupid analog stick on me, as well as for the sticky buttons.)

I like Sony as much as the next guy, but I really have to say that I don't care for EITHER of these new generation portables. But if I had to pick one, I'd have to go with DS, simply because it's not as high-maintenance as the PSP. Also, I've never once heard of someone returning their DS because of Dead Pixels.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: A very biased look at the PSP/DS. Reply with quote

zebes-x-verve wrote:
i prefer the ds better than the ds in my opinion..


I never knew the DS was better than the DS. o_______o
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: A very biased look at the PSP/DS. Reply with quote

Geoff Mendicino wrote:
I don't care if you're a Nintendo fanboy; the PSP kicks the DS's a** and forgets to take names. Hell yes. ^_^

The PSP has:
-8 hour battery life WITHOUT backlite
-Ability to transfer games via big-a** memory cards.
-PS2 Graphics/Engine
-Analog-ish Stick
-A sexy look
-Been out for 2-3 weeks (not sure) and has 27 games out.
-Runs mini-DVDs/tons of music
-The eject disc can launch out and hit someone in the eye.

The DS has:
-12 hour battery life WITH backlite
-No ability to transfer DS games, yet.
-N64 Graphics/Engine
-A crappy touch screen that gets dirty and is usually inaccurate/double touches.
-A clanky piece of s*** look.
-Been out for several months and has 27 games out.
-Runs GBA games, which can hold a few MP3 songs on it, if you have a flash cart.
-The eject cart can launch out, hit the floor and shatter to pieces.


Um... Good for you? I don't see a point in starting a topic that will obviously end up pissing a lot of people. I think everyone knows what the PSP can do and what the DS can do. Personally I don't care which one is better. DS has games I like coming out, as does PSP. If you don't like the DS, then don't get it. No one cares that you think PSP is better, if they do then they are overreacting. Plus, some of the stuff you listed on both are BS. DS games do not break easy, nor do they shoot out. PSP is not using it's capability of having graphics as good as PS2, so what's the point in even listing that? It may have more games, but the line up is just as bad as DS's (ToE is a plus, though : o). Even if you can store games, movies, and mp3s on a memory stick, You need a helluva lot of space. 1 GB is $150, and that's a waste of money in my book. All I have my PSP for is the games.

I suggest you ask this topic to be locked, before it gets hot >.>;.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, claiming that this is "A VERY Biased Look at the PSP and DS" is asking for trouble. It is fine that you think that way, but by claiming all of these things and not refuting the other points makes this a pointless thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Azureman.EXE wrote:
Battery Life(DS wins)
Game quality(PSP wins)
Game diversity(PSP Wins)
Hardware durability(DS Wins)
Software durability(DS Wins)
Ease of control(Draw, DS loses for games that REQUIRE the damned Touch screen and PSP loses for forcing the stupid analog stick on me, as well as for the sticky buttons.)

It's a draw for game quality. Most of PSP's games are ports and they all suck. Out of the PSP games out, not many are fun. PSP may have more games, but they aren't good. We can't judge the games until more come out, because most of DS's games suck too.

PSP's graphics aren't even really that close to PS2's. The system is capable of PS2 graphics, but they haven't made much use of it at all. It has many flaws that you forgot to mention too. Such as the price. In America, it costs around $250 to buy just the system. To get a game and an actually good memory card, it'll be around $310 total, which is crappy compared to the PS2. Aside from that, the analog stick absolutely sucks. The durability is terrible too. Drop it once and it'll be finished.

These comments are not to say that I don't want a PSP, because I do want one. I just think that it's ridiculous to pay so much for a portable with so many flaws.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't transfer games? What do you think Download Play was for?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly don't see what so hot about the PSP.

I personally don't give a damn if it looks "sexy" or not. In fact, I think platinum looks sexy enough. The color black just doesn't shock me at all. It's really just a matter of preference.

And PSP's graphics aren't that hawt at all. Hell, Iridion 3D had some pretty snazzy graphics on the GBA back in the day, but it was a terrible game. Which leads me to the conclusion that graphics don't make a game, and it never will. It's whether you like it ot not that really counts. You wouldn't go and buy a Tiger Woods game if you're just going to play it once, then forget about it, would you?

Why would you buy mini DVDs just to play them on a portable system's screen? ;_;

Why would you want to listen to music on that thing when MP3 players are already available with a larger capacity? (iPod)

In actual fact, the PSPs power is better than the DSs. But heck, Nintendo gets all the games that I like. :) I don't care if PSP has all the 'mature' games. Mature games bore the hell out of me.

Oh, and if the DS cart does launch out and hit the floor, I highly doubt it will 'shatter to pieces'. In fact, I've dropped my SM64 cart twice now, and I haven't seen any problems at all.

In fact, how the hell do you carry discs without scratching them? Oh, right. Buy those disc protectors. As if paying for the PSP wasn't enough? Now we have to go buy protectors for discs. I can safely put a DS cart into my pocket without worrying about messing it up.

But honestly, don't take my word for it. If you like the PSP and it's games, and you need an MP3 player and you plan on buying mini DVDs and you think it's sexy and *huff* you have enough money to buy it, go ahead and buy it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He means memory cards I think... like you could take your file and play it on another person's system...? which is pretty pointless, considering it's a PORTABLE system, but Sony uses discs, so I guess they need it.

DS is so awesome. And like everybody's said, it's durable as hell. I've dropped it like a zillion times(I'm very clumsy) and it still works perfectly.

PSP's just another example of Sony's overinflated ego. Didn't they say that the Square button is faulty on purpose or something...? man, they're stupid...
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Pitchums wrote:
PSP's just another example of Sony's overinflated ego. Didn't they say that the Square button is faulty on purpose or something...? man, they're stupid...

The square button problem was only in the first Japanese release of PSP. It was a design error that was fixed.
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Toto wrote:
Pitchums wrote:
PSP's just another example of Sony's overinflated ego. Didn't they say that the Square button is faulty on purpose or something...? man, they're stupid...

The square button problem was only in the first Japanese release of PSP. It was a design error that was fixed.



That isn't true - it wasn't a design error at all. It was something Sony decided to live with because upping the response on the square button would mean making the screen size smaller. And I haven't heard anything about it being fixed...
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Pitchums wrote:
PSP's just another example of Sony's overinflated ego. Didn't they say that the Square button is faulty on purpose or something...? man, they're stupid...


Yeah, especially the designer. "I believe I have created the most beautiful thing in the world." EGO. That's just stupid, really. Sony knows all about the problems with the DS. They are a terrible company, if you ask me. In terms of customer support and satisfactory, Nintendo and Microsoft top them anyday. Yes, even Microsoft. It's BS to say that dead pixels are common in screens and they will not replace them unless they have like 10. Nintendo would do it if it was only 1 pixel. I have a dead pixel on my PSP, but I don't have one on my GB, my GBC, my GBA, nor my NDS... No excuse, in my opinion.

Izumi wrote:
That isn't true - it wasn't a design error at all. It was something Sony decided to live with because upping the response on the square button would mean making the screen size smaller. And I haven't heard anything about it being fixed...


Nope, it's not fixed at all. The moment I opened mine up I tested the square button. It is definitely sticky.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you actually say anythiong good about the DS Geoff?
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Well they had to fix A TRUCKLOAD OF PROBLEMS SONY IDIOT " Oh yes you have a dead pixel in your PSP? Well sir, we can fix that for a FEE, just'll cost you about another 5 million dollars." They fixed everything for a fee, now which parent (if you're about a normal kids age asks a parent.. ermm.. dad you know we payed like 700 million dollars for the PSP well it was kinda malfunctiony and the PSP people said it'll cost us another 5 million dollars.. can I please borrow that much money? As saying that the freaking card will break and shatter. I don't know what the hell your talking about. When you push in the DS card to eject the game to take it out, it stops it self in mid-launch to prevent the ds card from popping out. IT DOESn'T JUST COME FLYING OUT TO WHACK YOU IN THE FACE LIKE SOME SYSTEMS *COUGH* PSP * COUGH*. I'd say as for the "SEXY" PSP LOOK that FREAKING LOOK LASTS AS LONG AS A ROSE WITHOUT WATER! you stick it in your pocket. oh crap scratch. you walk around with it in your hand. oh crap fingerprints. your drinking milk next to it OH SHIT IT'S ALL OVER THE SCREEN. The psp might have a better engine but HELL NO it's a ps2 engine. IF YOU WEREn'T PAYING ATTENTION sony said it's near that of a ps2's not exact or more then a ps2 dam you guys are fanboyish. As for the super-duper mp3 sheeot. you'll have to add another 5 bakajillion dollars for a freaking flash card. The psp's just to pricy for it's crap work. Whatever the PSP the DS can do better. The PSP can't do that though, let's see it re-enact a freaking touch screen game. HMM.

Now let's see. Everyone's ranting on about how it's sleek sexy and not so big and fat like the DS (WHICH IT ISN'T) well if you wanna fit the PSP in your pocket I suggest you BUY SUPER LONG POCKETS. BECAUSE THAT SHIT AINT GONNA FIT IN YOUR POCKET. It's to long! That's why in their commercial they have a guy zipping up his PSP in a gym bag, because it won't fit in his pants. And that's why the guys holding it while skateboarding. Because it won't fit in his pants.

What else. Oh yeah the game production RATE. DS games are probably 10 million more times in quality. Didn't you teacher ever telll you quality over quantity not the other way around dumb ass.

8 hours WITHOUT the backlight. Why won't you tell us how long it lasts while your watching a move or while playing a game *grins*

All I have to say is that the DS will own PSP any day any time even in a contest where you beat each other up with a DS or PSP =) Noobs.


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