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neogamer1234
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why don't we name our combos in our decks...

These are for any water deck...

Reviving the Ancient Frost Phoenix

Play Mobius
next turn set Thunder of Ruler/threatning Roar and Penguin Soldier
Play threatening or Thunder
Filp Soldier and Return opp creature and Mobius, then tribute for mobies with Soldier

Comment: Thise combo is basically for my lone Mobius...

Classic Mini Opp monster killer

Switch all monsters to defense
Play Hammer Shot (YAY that Unhappy Girl is dead!!)

Comment: There is a kid at school that plays a stall wtih fifty cards (So he can deck you out) and uses unhappy maiden to attack my creature while he has Marie the Fallen one in the grave...

Sunken Lock

Gravity Bind and Legendary Ocean
Set Penguin Soldier
Flip Soldier and return it and opp creature
stall until you get desired card

This lock won me many games...

3 turn win when opp is unlucky

Place Grizz
let them kill grizz and get Star Boy
Play ALO and Mermaid knight

Blast through and on their turn play Thunder of Ruler

Comment: 4400 a turn

someone help my deck...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres my deck. What do you all think of it?

Monsters
Black Luster Soldier
Spear Dragon
Man-eater Bug
Jinzo
Maha Vailo
Buster Blader
Magician of Faith
Giant Orc
Witch of the Black Forest
Zombrya the Dark
Gearfried the Iron Knight
Old Vindictive Magician
Cyber Jar
Sonic Bird
Hysteric Fairy
Catapult Turtle
Sangan
Mask of Darkness
Dark Magician
7 Colored Fish
La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp
Warrior Dai Grepher
Dark Blade
Neo the Magic Swordsman

Negate Attack
Trap Hole
Magic Jammer
Seven Tools of the Bandit
Raigeki Break
Magic Cylinder

Fissure
Axe of Despair
Soul Exchange
Monster Reborn
Graceful Charity
Tribute to the Doomed
Black Luster Ritual
Harpie's Feather Duster
Dark Hole
Premature Burial
Card Destruction
Change of Heart
Malevolent Nuzzler
Pot of Greed
Mystical Space Typhoon

Total cards- 45
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkniyoh, your deck is great and all, but not unlike that of a basic player. Yeah you have some good staples, however...staples don't make the deck, it's what you center it around. I centered on a remove-from-play/ Gamble deck for a while, I don't recommend it (lets just say, even though Dice Jar and Time Wizard never failed me...it differs from person to person), but it got me VERY far in duels. As time went on I got better strategies, and stuff for a Dark Magician Deck. After a long time, you'll think back and say... "man...If I dueled myself back then, I woulda' lost"
Laughing
But it's good...it's like fusion of me and my friends decks from about last year, while I was a freshman... :]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i play only simple combos. but i want to try a combo. just try.

the combo that yuki always uses.

mirage of nitemares and emergency provision.

but i can find the mirage of nitemares. is that card in dark begining or dark revelation...it can be there too right? just found out. only in pgd. oh man it is gonna be hard to look for it.

also. out of topic again

[spoil:8c9840852f]there is a dark elemental hero finally played.
Elemental hero-Dark necroman
forgot about the stats but effect is.
if this exist in your graveyard, you can summon a tribute monster with out tributes.[/spoil:8c9840852f]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkniyoh wrote:
Heres my deck. What do you all think of it?

Monsters
Black Luster Soldier
Spear Dragon
Man-eater Bug
Jinzo
Maha Vailo
Buster Blader
Magician of Faith
Giant Orc
Witch of the Black Forest
Zombrya the Dark
Gearfried the Iron Knight
Old Vindictive Magician
Cyber Jar
Sonic Bird
Hysteric Fairy
Catapult Turtle
Sangan
Mask of Darkness
Dark Magician
7 Colored Fish
La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp
Warrior Dai Grepher
Dark Blade
Neo the Magic Swordsman

Negate Attack
Trap Hole
Magic Jammer
Seven Tools of the Bandit
Raigeki Break
Magic Cylinder

Fissure
Axe of Despair
Soul Exchange
Monster Reborn
Graceful Charity
Tribute to the Doomed
Black Luster Ritual
Harpie's Feather Duster
Dark Hole
Premature Burial
Card Destruction
Change of Heart
Malevolent Nuzzler
Pot of Greed
Mystical Space Typhoon

Total cards- 45


thats not too bad, beatdown no? i would look for more 1900s otherwise you might have difficulty standing up to other beatdown decks. you dont really need the catapult turtle by the looks of things, and the BLS doesnt look nessessary with the buster blader in there too. maybe instead you could replace it with...blue eyes or dark magician... but not both. theres some bans in there too, thought id point that out but ill leave it alone. it looks pretty strong, i would work on homing in you stratigy a little bit. get rid of anything that doesnt help out your cause too much.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes... yes... classic beatdown... i mean like CLASSIC... beatdown... those decks had many 1800s and the usual Goblin force...

now just to ask again... Someone help with my deck please?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i actually drop my goblins and add more 1900 atks. except for kycoo. i think all 1800 atk. are worthless. goblins are good but for only one shot.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1800 isn't useless. I still have a lot of 1800s, but no 1900. And I still kill people who say "Your deck sucks because theres no 1900s". And bitch at me later about me cheating because I pwned them.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigh. Those people do not appreciate the pleasure of using combat tricks and think the game is all about smashing your opponent's face in. Those people who believe that the deck is automatically good by having several creatures with a high attack power should play a few games and learn that creatures are NOT the key to winning.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep...

My deck is pretty much based on 1500s and lower (1700s really cause of teh ocean...)

And they get pissed saying I cheat when I use Terraforming just to shuffle my deck (at least they see my deck...)

I usually love pwning with my Mother Grizzly > Star Boy > Ocean > Mermaid Knight Combo...

4400 a turn...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monsters
Megarock Dragon
Megarock Dragon
Lost Guardian
Lost Guardian
Dummy Golem
Dummy Golem
Giant Soldier of Rock
Giant Soilder of Rock
Giant Soilder of Rock
Aztec Statue
Aztec Statue
Aztec Statue
Cyber Pod
Mercenary Troops
Metamol Pot
Giant Rat
Giant Rat
Critter

Magic
Jar of Greed
Charity of Angel
Emergency Rations
Treasure From Heaven
Brain Control
Brain Control
Big Storm
Cyclone
Hasty Burial
Robbery
Scape Goat
Scape Goat
Sealing Swords of Light
Shield Crush
Dead Reincarnation

Trap
Decolration of God
Holy Barrier - Mirror Force
Destruction Ring
Goblin's Bookkeeping
Goblin's Bookkeeping
Goblin's Bookkeeping
Cry of Living Dead

Side Deck
Dimension Fusion
Return from Another Dimension
Emissary of Obliteration
Imperial Control
Imperial Control
Emergency Rations
Mishevious Demon Twins
Magic Cylinder
D.D Assaliant
D.D Assaliant
Magic Effect Arrow
Magic Effect Arrow
Cypher Scouter
Cypher Scouter
Magic Warrior Breaker
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angel.EXE wrote:
darkniyoh wrote:
Heres my deck. What do you all think of it?

Monsters
Black Luster Soldier
Spear Dragon
Man-eater Bug
Jinzo
Maha Vailo
Buster Blader
Magician of Faith
Giant Orc
Witch of the Black Forest
Zombrya the Dark
Gearfried the Iron Knight
Old Vindictive Magician
Cyber Jar
Sonic Bird
Hysteric Fairy
Catapult Turtle
Sangan
Mask of Darkness
Dark Magician
7 Colored Fish
La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp
Warrior Dai Grepher
Dark Blade
Neo the Magic Swordsman

Negate Attack
Trap Hole
Magic Jammer
Seven Tools of the Bandit
Raigeki Break
Magic Cylinder

Fissure
Axe of Despair
Soul Exchange
Monster Reborn
Graceful Charity
Tribute to the Doomed
Black Luster Ritual
Harpie's Feather Duster
Dark Hole
Premature Burial
Card Destruction
Change of Heart
Malevolent Nuzzler
Pot of Greed
Mystical Space Typhoon

Total cards- 45


thats not too bad, beatdown no? i would look for more 1900s otherwise you might have difficulty standing up to other beatdown decks. you dont really need the catapult turtle by the looks of things, and the BLS doesnt look nessessary with the buster blader in there too. maybe instead you could replace it with...blue eyes or dark magician... but not both. theres some bans in there too, thought id point that out but ill leave it alone. it looks pretty strong, i would work on homing in you stratigy a little bit. get rid of anything that doesnt help out your cause too much.


I think i will remove the Turtle and the Luster soldier and Luster ritual and put in some more dragons or another dark magician and dark magician girl. yes this is Uber Classic Beatdown as I like to call it, but the bans in there I think are for the advanced game rules and I dont really feel like playing that way.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

horoko is a good friend and an even better transilator. some of them cards are japanese cards. i think. at any rate i won't change a thing :D also. i lost fate in Dark magician and dark magician girl... first off there are better and stronger 1 trib monsters and 2 trib monsters than dark magician. like cosmo queen. also a spell caster and a lot stronger. yugi just makes it look good. and DMG? well she is nice to have and to hold. but base strenght 2000 and her effect doesn't do much until you build a deck around. and i don't play advance rules either.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

man...

This kid perfectly pulls off a DM deck...

Knights, Skilled dark magician, DMG, the works... KILLS ME...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the Dark Magician Cards can be VERY cunning.

There are several keys to a Good, COMPLETE Dark Magician Deck. These cards are:

Dark Magician-The base of it
Skilled Dark Magician-Can bring out dark magicians faster
Buster Blader-fusion family, suggested in side deck
Dark Palidian-great for Dark Magician Dragon deck
The Sorceror of Black Magic- "can I use a trap now?" "no"
Dark Magician Girl-+300 for every DM yay :D
Sages Stone-Special summon a Dark Magician while a DMG is on the field
Time Wizard-If you're feeling lucky, keep it sidedecked...
Dark Sage-A really good card, IMO side deck it... It can be special summoned from almost everywhere if you succeed at TW's effect and tribute one dark magician
Knight's Title-Special Summon Dark Magician Knight from your deck, hand, or graveyard. Tribute one Dark Magician
Dark Magician Knight- One special summoned, destroy one moster on the field.
Yami- just because it's funny Razz
Diffusion Wave Motion-pay 1000. choose one level 7+ spell caster. Only that monster can attack this turn and it attacks all monsters on the field. If the monster has an effect destroy the monster without activating the effect. You have no idea how much I love this secret rare. I destroyed to Old Vidicative Magicians that way...it saved me XD
Dark Magic Attack-If you have one face up dark magician on your side of the field, destroy all magic and trap cards on your opponent's side of the field
other things:
Lighten the Load.
Skilled White Magician
cost down
and other random things
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree, the dark magician cards can very very powerful if you have the cards with them. cosmo queen doesnt have really anything to special summon it now does she. with dark magician on the other hand... sages stone and skilled DM... they both help to bring him out faster. then theres the dark magic attack.. not as powerful... but if you run a deck baised around dark magician then it might come in handy!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can somene help me. I need help trying to build a good deck at 40 cards and for advanced play. Any suggestions?

Deck: 40 (with the fusion card 41)
Monsters:
Dark Magicain
Buster Blader
Skilled White Magicain
Magicain of Faith
Black Luster Soilder- Envoy of the Beginning
Kuriboh
Watapon
Sorcerer of Dark Magic
Obnoxious Celtic Guard
Archfiend of Gilfer
Alpha the Manget Warrior
Beta the Manget Warrior
Gamma the Manget Warrior
Dark Magicain Girl
Skilled Dark Magicain
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Dark Magician of Choas
Big Shield Guardna
Valkyrion the Manget Warrior

Spells:
Pot of Greed
Swords of Revealing Light
Gracful Charity
Premature Burial
Card Destruction
Emblem of Dragon Destroyer
Mystical Space Typhoon
Mage Power
Diffusion Wave Motion
Sage's Stone
Double Spell
Dedication through light and dark
Monster Reincation
Polymerzation
Brain Control (coming soon from TLM-EN)
Shallow Grave

Traps:
Magical Hats
Rope of Life
Dust Tornado
Pitch-Black Power Stone
Miracle Restoring

Fusions:
Dark Paladin
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dark magician decks is powerful. all i was saying is. dark magician on it's
own is an awful double tribute monster.

Quote:
Sages Stone-Special summon a Dark Magician while a DMG is on the field

provided you can keep, dmg alive. and dmg is limited to 1 right. the changes of these two meeting is small. of course it could change if the stones have no limit

Quote:
Dark Sage-A really good card, IMO side deck it... It can be special summoned from almost everywhere if you succeed at TW's effect and tribute one dark magician

side deck is right. like you said. if you succeed.



Quote:
Knight's Title-Special Summon Dark Magician Knight from your deck, hand, or graveyard. Tribute one Dark Magician
Dark Magician Knight- One special summoned, destroy one moster on the field.


too situational for me. speed is of the essense my friend killed me with a powered up. hayabusa knight once. it was horrible. an h, knight with united we stand and mage power. *freezes in place*



on the other hand this just my opinion. it will definitely change when i run to a really good Dark magician deck. still those cards are too situational. but might eyes might yet be opened
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Magician Girl is not restricted.

For a Black Magician deck, I would try just going for Black Magician (If you need a "backup plan" in your main deck, then your main focus is sort of limited.) Black Magician Girl and Black Paladin just slows it down.

I would just use Black Magician x3 and some of its cards.

1. Curtain of Black Magic - Use this to summon the Black Magician without a problem.

2. Thousand Knives - Only 2...better yet...you might side deck this. It is a good removal card, and free of cost, but...eh...you can choose.

3. Black Magic - Destroys Magic and Traps on the Field...but can be a BAD topdeck.

Don't use stuff like Magician's Tome or something like that...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good point.
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