Opinion on Forte/Bass *Might contain Spoilers*

illusion · Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject:

Actually I think the real reason anime Forte will never be up to par with his game/anime counterparts is because of the whole ultimate program bit. Yeah, his anime background was terrible, but it's because he doesn't have that "program" that he can't reach his full potential. So, if there was anything I could change in the anime, it would be to get rid of that plot device. >_<

Anyway, as for Forte, his manga version is definately my favorite. His character has a lot of depth; more so than any other Rockman manga villian. His game counterpart is okay. He does have a backstory, but he has been used just as a challenge more than anything. I would like to see him have a major involvement in a game sometime.
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SonicNigma212 · Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:47 am Post subject: Thank you all for your opinions

Thanks for all of the info that all you gave me about The Black Shadow. It actually was a big help. It gave me lots of ideas about what to do for my next fanfic and this one is going to be a crossover with the Rockman.Exe Series. It's going to take place right after the Stream series. It may take a while, but it would definitely be worth a shot. I just want to know one thing that would help me out a lot: what do you all think of the title: "The Black Shadow's Assault: The Chaotix vs. The Pirate Ghosts?" It'll be a while before I could put it up. Anyway, Later!

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Featherdust · [survivalism] Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 635

Okay. I'm a rabid fangirl, but I must say that Forte has no reason to even exist in the anime. There was just no point, besides the fact that he's supposed to be the reincarnation of Pharoahman. Pharoahman didn't have to be reincarnated, especially if Forte was just gonna stand there and stare off into space. He didn't do anything all that special, so I don't really think there was a reason for the Gospel Mafia to worry about him anyway. Just didn't make sense, to me at least.

I love his manga version, though. He's all evil, and he actually has his own storyline. And a really depressing one at that. I feel sorry for him. =P

Game version... well... Sadly, I haven't really played much of the games. So I don't really have an opinion.

To Nigma: Is your fanfic going to be a Sonic/Rockman crossover?
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blazequest · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject:

It's amazing how much the sonic characters resemble the megaman characters.

Sonic has a rivalry with Knuckles, and his ultimate adversary is Shadow.
Megaman has a rivalry with Protoman, and his ultimate adversary is Bass.

They're the same color! OMG.

Anyway, sounds interesting.
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Rave_789 · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:02 am Post subject:

Well, the thing is that Forte anime is just there for show. He hardly battles and after the Gospel incident he hardly has a reason to exist. I guess he's there to bring in the fans. Manga and Game Forte's are much better though. I played the game versions and found out that Forte is really cool and a really powerful navi. Not to mention and in depth story line built around him.

HeatShadow · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:19 am Post subject:

In the Classic series, Bass was created as a rival for Megaman, a recurring enemy that would stop at nothing to gain the power needed to defeat his sworn enemy. I really liked what happened with him in Megaman 8.[spoil:03771fca16]The fact that he would go so far as to accept energy that was known to be dangerous just so he could have a shot at beating Megaman shows this, and I personally think it tells alot about his character.[/spoil:03771fca16]

It was kind of dissapointing to find out that he'd gotten the "legendary" treatment for his Battle Network role; he's to the EXE universe what the legendary pokemon are to the pokemon games. He's a mysterious, uber-powerful, unstoppable "god" whose only real interest seems to be fighting for the sake of fighting. Which, as a result, makes him flat, two-dimensional. Did he get that strong though training? No. Is there someone close to him that he fights to help/protect, thus providing a REASON for wanting to be strong? No. Does he have any sort of goal other than carelessly killing other things? Not really. Does he really HAVE any story aside from the usual bad-ass backstory of being betrayed in his youth and being filled with angst as a result? Not from what I've seen.

The original Bass fought for pride and to prove his worth to those around him and, ultimately, himself. The EXE Bass fights because it's his nature and no other reason. Dissapointing indeed.
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ForteGT · Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Japan

I agree with you all that Forte in the anime series is just there for show but just wait till you see the movie. He has some meaning in that I think, a part of the movie [spoil:0c6a89fe83]he actually aquires the ultimate program and fuses or something with rockman and then becomes what we all love ForteCrossRockman. I loved that 5, 6 minute fight scene against nebula gray.[/spoil:0c6a89fe83]

I actually have the manga and Forte IS a god there from what I think. Haven't read the battle net one though. The game well I don't think he's as great as the manga one but still awesome.
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blazequest · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:50 am Post subject:

Manga forte does sound cool. And the local comic shop just started selling the rockmanEXE mangas so I might pick them up.
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Suraa.Exe · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject:

I hope that in either stream or the movie he gets a good story, cause right know, maybe it was the writer's intention, but no one knows his motivation.
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SonicNigma212 · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:45 pm Post subject: Finally! An honest answer!

Digigamer · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject:

Forte is definitely my fav navi.
But i like his story more in the games.
Being betrayed cuz: [spoil:2cca21c4dd]The officials thought he was the one causing the bugs on the net while it was in fact Alpha[/spoil:2cca21c4dd]
[spoil:2cca21c4dd]He has to leave his human friend Cossack and flee from the officials.[/spoil:2cca21c4dd]
I almost dropped a tear when i found out about his sad past...
Makes me wanna murderize those officials! >.<
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blazequest · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject:

On a totally unrelated subject, I was wondering what is the name of the attack that Forte uses on Slur. I can't make it out. It's the first one before the Dark Blade and Darkness Overload. Any answer would be greatly appreciated. Go Forte! I'm gonna buy the manga as soon as I get the money.
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Wackoguy · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject:

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Xel · Dr. Wily's Peon Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Posts: 60

Well, at least in the Games and Anime, Forte is Good. The god-like role fits his to a T. Like in the original series, Forte is a great improvement over Megaman. He's powerful enough to give players a great challenge, and watching him with serenade was Quite fun in the anime. Also, when it comes to overhyped, there has been worse. "coughMegamancough -.- "

SonicNigma212 · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject: What the??

megawasiniman_a · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:04 am Post subject: Re: What the??

blazequest · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:09 pm Post subject:

SonicNigma212 · Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject: I agree

Well, to be quiet honest, I have to agree with blazequest. The original version of Forte really does seem to be a popous jerk in the original MegaMan series than in the Exe. series. I mean, from the information that I was able to gather about this guy, I wouldn't say that I don't agree with all of you. If there's something that I hadn't heard from outside or inside the net, then someone please tell me right now. Oh, and I'm planning on putting Forte in one of my crossover series fics that I'm working on. However, I'm going to have to put the American name Bass on the story. Now, here's a thought, what would all of you think if he actually were to come to this very world? How would he react? That's what I'm going to write about. I'll let you all know when it starts. Later!

Maurice A. Nigma :grr: