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Ryouko
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It could, but in this case, something just isn't right.
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| Well this is very confusing to say the least. Ither this is a very complex plot of a heck of a big plot hole |
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Toto
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| Ryouko wrote: | | I do have a question for any of yous who can understand Japanese. I picked up that Enzan mentioned the past Barrel being 30 years old. However, the Barrel that passes away in the present was only 50 years old. Netto exclaims how odd that is, cause obviously Barrel looks like a really old man. Any clues? o.o |
Maybe...he's come into the present much more than we think. He may have been 50 years old in his present time, but what if he'd been in the past/future long enough to add on to his age? Honestly, no clue. |
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| Wow It seems like a very cool episode! I'm sure gonna download it |
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memnarch6
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Sounds good, but I'm still curious as to what the P.V. does. Did it create an alternate timeline to watch the events of Axess 51, allowing ShadeMan to break free, wreak havoc on the Stream world, and then jump yet again back into the past to alter it such that Darkloids control the Earth?
Sorry about the run-on sentence... -.-
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Was there a DA that allowed all the Navis to be in the Real World when Shademan jumped through the Past Vision, or was that in the Net? This is going to lead to a very weird plot probably.
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Sketch
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Bubbleman's army in the preview consisted of: Plantman, Bowlman....and Cutman, Josu, not just Bowlman. XD
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| Sketch wrote: | | Bubbleman's army in the preview consisted of: Plantman, Bowlman....and Cutman, Josu, not just Bowlman. XD |
Cutman 0_o but he wasn't a darkloid
Though it will be fun to see him again :D |
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Ryouko
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In the screens they show of the Dark Loids in rule of the (very dark and ruggad) world, there are Dinensional Converters sticking out of the ground. So yes, I would say there is a DA somewhere, or around the entire world.
I don't know if anyone mentioned it before, but Shademan came from the past through a bend in space-time. They named it "Past Tunnel", which seems to be a extreme measure of the Past Vision.
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| Ryouko wrote: | In the screens they show of the Dark Loids in rule of the (very dark and ruggad) world, there are Dinensional Converters sticking out of the ground. So yes, I would say there is a DA somewhere, or around the entire world.
I don't know if anyone mentioned it before, but Shademan came from the past through a bend in space-time. They named it "Past Tunnel", which seems to be a extreme measure of the Past Vision. |
The dimensional area around the world is the one from Stream, but since there are dimensional converters, shouldn't it be the grid?
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Yeah....but since when is EXE known for consistancy? :P
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memnarch6
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Stream just gets more discontinuitous as we go along. Integrating this paradoxical time travel, history-altering arc is alright, but confusing...
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Bah, why did they make Bubble Man evil again? *sigh* Now I have to worry about him getting deleted. I swear I'll be angry if they do that. >_>
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Ryouko- So, in other words, the SECOND Shademan jumpd into the past cyberworld entrance, the timelines shifted and suddenly everything was different?
Drx- Do you HAVE to pinalize every post I make? T_T
Shadowblade- Bubbleman shall forever be a Darkloid, wrong is where he belongs :3 |
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Shademan was brought into the future moments before he was suppossed to be deleted. Probably because it was so instantaneous, everyone in the past still thought he had died, so the timeline wasn't affected much in the present.
However, the moment Shademan jumped in the Past Tunnel at the end of the episode, everything changed. With nothing much to stand in his way during the past 20 years ago, the Dark Loids were able to take over the Earth quite easily.
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Well...it still doesn't make much sense. The writers of Stram are dabbling in temporal paradoxes, something that is usually done by Star Trek, and not done quite so well.
So, continuing the paradox, if ShadeMan jumped back twenty years and made the past change, it will ripple into the future and therfore erase everything that has happened. Thus, ShadeMan would have never been resurrected, and couldn't alter the timeline.
And as the song goes, "The same old cycle's gonna start again."
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| Ryouko wrote: | Shademan was brought into the future moments before he was suppossed to be deleted. Probably because it was so instantaneous, everyone in the past still thought he had died, so the timeline wasn't affected much in the present.
However, the moment Shademan jumped in the Past Tunnel at the end of the episode, everything changed. With nothing much to stand in his way during the past 20 years ago, the Dark Loids were able to take over the Earth quite easily. |
Wait, so even though he DID instantly changed the past when he jumped through, Lan and everyone's memories were unchanged by this? |
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| Valtz wrote: | | Ryouko wrote: | | I do have a question for any of yous who can understand Japanese. I picked up that Enzan mentioned the past Barrel being 30 years old. However, the Barrel that passes away in the present was only 50 years old. Netto exclaims how odd that is, cause obviously Barrel looks like a really old man. Any clues? o.o |
Maybe he just didn't age gracefuly??? It could happen |
He probobly wasn't in that much good shape. I mean, he was in a wheelchair. That probobly affected Ol' Barrel in more ways than obvious. Without sufficent excersize, he pretty much became a potato(figure of speech). |
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memnarch6
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Oh god. These explanations are mind-scrambling.
So the P.V. was literally an alternate timeline with events of Axess 51, ShadeMan breaks free just before being mutilated, then manages to go twenty years into the past and enslave Earth under Darkloid rule?
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| Ryouko wrote: | I do have a question for any of yous who can understand Japanese. I picked up that Enzan mentioned the past Barrel being 30 years old. However, the Barrel that passes away in the present was only 50 years old. Netto exclaims how odd that is, cause obviously Barrel looks like a really old man. Any clues? o.o
Blues was cute and smiley at Rockman, and tried to protect him from Shademan. ;_; This episode was just awesome from start to finish. |
This is where they started going into the movie plot, Nebula Grey had something to do with this.
Shademan is re-created from the disturbance, Yuichiro and everyone in that laboratory is exempt from time changes due to a barrier they erected. The AT started when Shade and Bubble went into the Past Tunnel, though Rockman is going to stop him.
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