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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

family crests? Just wondering where do these crests come from? Is it just anybody made them and claim themselves? I know families of nobilities have these crests
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beats me...

I don't know if they get assigned a crest or if they get to make it. We're not really told anywhere.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya... it's like a crest thing more than a Yin Yang, and most of the symbols that represent a trait of the Navi are more direct than just "light and dark". Generally, it has something to do with some physical, easily detectable aspect of them, for example: Miyuki/Skullman's symbol in reminiscient of a skull, no explanation needed, Saloma/Woodman has a brown spiral/ring series like the rings of a tree, Laika/Searchman has a crosshair 'cause... Searchman's all sniper-ey and stuff, Tohru/Iceman has a little snowflake/ice crystal, once again, no explanation needed, and then there are the crests which just seem to be there for who knows why, like the Hikari's symbol, Forte's symbol, and consequently, possibly Cossack's, Princess Pride/Kightman's symbol... I wanna say Dekao's, but it's similar to the plus sign on the Mettaur's helmets, and both Gutsman and Mettaurs have a kinda construction worker-lookin' motif going
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The green cross on the Metool's helmets is just a symbol for construction workers in Japan. Which is why Gutsman also has it on his chest(Remember, in the original Rockman, Mets were exclusive to Gutsman's stage until you got to Wily's fort.)

As for Blues, it's probably just decorative, like Rockman's.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does that mean the the Metools are realated to gutsman?
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, Forte's symbol (IN the manga) was the f like in music (forte) lol. Of course some people may be like Confused if they didn't know his name was Forte and Not Bass in the Japanese version. And everyone knows why forte now Has a slash on his symbol. (we dont know why he has it in the Anime though)
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyone ever thought that maybe is that black/white because of Enzan's hair? XD
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually, Forte's symbol (IN the manga) was the f like in music (forte) lol. Of course some people may be like Confused if they didn't know his name was Forte and Not Bass in the Japanese version. And everyone knows why forte now Has a slash on his symbol. (we dont know why he has it in the Anime though)


eh? really? I never noticed it was an f, I just thought it was some decorative symbol...
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did anyone ever thought that maybe is that black/white because of Enzan's hair? XD


Yes. Angelidollinda, Lido Azn Girl, TheWebbuilder, illusion, and probably more I missed just skimming the first page of the topic now. Didn't read the thread too closely, did you?

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I always thought Protoman's symbol was Enzan & his dad's company icon? And Megaman's is the symbot that Netto's dad wears.


Yeah, very good. The navis wear the icons because their operator's fathers use the icon because it's a family icon. But the question here is WHY is it the family icon? We're trying to look at what the appearance of the icon signifies, and a red circle with a yellow border cut down the middle into two semi-trapezoidal segments doesn't exactly scream "family symbol". We want to know simply why the icon looks the way it does.

Though I'd like to point out I don't remember IPC or Shuuseki ever using Protoman's icon. Could I see a reference pic or screenshot?
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I've never seen Chaud's symbol used anywhere but on his jacket and Protoman, but I do know that the Hikari symbol was [spoil:1ef2abb823]on the front of Lan's dad's desk (I won't try to spell his name) when you went into his locked office near the end of Exe 3.[/spoil:1ef2abb823]
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raijin wrote:
Yes. Angelidollinda, Lido Azn Girl, TheWebbuilder, illusion, and probably more I missed just skimming the first page of the topic now. Didn't read the thread too closely, did you?


Yeah I did, for some reason I ended up saying something completely different, I meant to say something related to Enzan's father, not him XD
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did anyone ever thought that maybe is that black/white because of Enzan's hair? XD


Yes. Angelidollinda, Lido Azn Girl, TheWebbuilder, illusion, and probably more I missed just skimming the first page of the topic now. Didn't read the thread too closely, did you?

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I always thought Protoman's symbol was Enzan & his dad's company icon? And Megaman's is the symbot that Netto's dad wears.


Yeah, very good. The navis wear the icons because their operator's fathers use the icon because it's a family icon. But the question here is WHY is it the family icon? We're trying to look at what the appearance of the icon signifies, and a red circle with a yellow border cut down the middle into two semi-trapezoidal segments doesn't exactly scream "family symbol". We want to know simply why the icon looks the way it does.

Though I'd like to point out I don't remember IPC or Shuuseki ever using Protoman's icon. Could I see a reference pic or screenshot?


The only one I can think of right now was in Axess episode 1 Enzan/Chaud [spoil:4fa7c79ea3]has a commercial and it shows a pet with the symbol at the end. [spoiler/] That always made me think it was IPC thing cause why would they use his pet in a commercial??? I maybe wrong but, its an idea. If you want a pic of it I can load it up later. [/spoil:4fa7c79ea3]
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's no spoiler since the episode is already dubbed and all.

They used Protoman's PET in the commercial because Chaud was the one acting in the commercial. He was using his own PET as an example. What else were they supposed to show in the commercial, a completely un-customized PET with no icon?
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it was supposed to be half-black-half-white to symbolize the Ijuin family's dysfunctional hairstyles, and their artist just had a wobbly desk. :P

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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raijin wrote:
That's no spoiler since the episode is already dubbed and all.

They used Protoman's PET in the commercial because Chaud was the one acting in the commercial. He was using his own PET as an example. What else were they supposed to show in the commercial, a completely un-customized PET with no icon?


I understand your point it was a guess, better then the hair idea Laughing Plus I spoiled it to be safe, didn't want to piss anyone off.
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's Enzan's Hair color. And It's plain awesome! Laughing Sorry.. You are talking to a Blues FanGirl!
But it does kinda look like the Ying-Yang sign.
I've just known it as Blues' Sign. So.... I don't know the whole story behind it or anything.
Just that's it's Enzan's hair color and looks plain awesome!

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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I understand your point it was a guess, better then the hair idea :lol: Plus I spoiled it to be safe, didn't want to piss anyone off.


I wish you'd use common sense instead of "being safe". I actually find it pretty annoying highlighting a spoiler only to find it's something either everybody knows already or something that's not interesting enough that somebody would not want to know if they hadn't seen it yet. Way too many people on this board over-use the spoiler tag. I'd prefer to see better judgement instead of paranoia.
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, its ying yang symbol
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Azureman.EXE"]The green cross on the Metool's helmets is just a symbol for construction workers in Japan. Which is why Gutsman also has it on his chest(Remember, in the original Rockman, Mets were exclusive to Gutsman's stage until you got to Wily's fort.)
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Yep thats because in the orginal games Gutsman was built to assist in construction work. The orginal 9 robot masters created by Dr. Light all had human jobs they were created to assist with excluding the prototype who was just a test to see if they worked. When Wily got a ahold of the 6 he found their systems also doubled as useful weapons. All the remaining robots were built just to kill and destroy. In short Gutsman is supposed to be a construction worker with the Metools as his "drones".
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonicsurfer wrote:
Well, I've never seen Chaud's symbol used anywhere but on his jacket and Protoman, but I do know that the Hikari symbol was [spoil:b66bb655cf]on the front of Lan's dad's desk (I won't try to spell his name) when you went into his locked office near the end of Exe 3.[/spoil:b66bb655cf]


it's also on the front of Yuuchiro's shirt, where the pocket would be
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