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railracer express Soul Unison
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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family crests? Just wondering where do these crests come from? Is it just anybody made them and claim themselves? I know families of nobilities have these crests _________________ Avatar by May, many flowers and thanks for the wonderful avatar. |
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TheWebbuilder I support Rhythm x Blues!
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 1124 Location: I don't know... But I hear laughing.
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Beats me...
I don't know if they get assigned a crest or if they get to make it. We're not really told anywhere. _________________
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Phantomman.EXE Net Savior
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 106
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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ya... it's like a crest thing more than a Yin Yang, and most of the symbols that represent a trait of the Navi are more direct than just "light and dark". Generally, it has something to do with some physical, easily detectable aspect of them, for example: Miyuki/Skullman's symbol in reminiscient of a skull, no explanation needed, Saloma/Woodman has a brown spiral/ring series like the rings of a tree, Laika/Searchman has a crosshair 'cause... Searchman's all sniper-ey and stuff, Tohru/Iceman has a little snowflake/ice crystal, once again, no explanation needed, and then there are the crests which just seem to be there for who knows why, like the Hikari's symbol, Forte's symbol, and consequently, possibly Cossack's, Princess Pride/Kightman's symbol... I wanna say Dekao's, but it's similar to the plus sign on the Mettaur's helmets, and both Gutsman and Mettaurs have a kinda construction worker-lookin' motif going |
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Azureman.EXE Music Hunter
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 509 Location: So I herd you liek Pikakips!
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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The green cross on the Metool's helmets is just a symbol for construction workers in Japan. Which is why Gutsman also has it on his chest(Remember, in the original Rockman, Mets were exclusive to Gutsman's stage until you got to Wily's fort.)
As for Blues, it's probably just decorative, like Rockman's. _________________
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railracer express Soul Unison
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 771
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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does that mean the the Metools are realated to gutsman? _________________ Avatar by May, many flowers and thanks for the wonderful avatar. |
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Shonshiwo15 Darkloid
Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 514 Location: A home or at school
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, Forte's symbol (IN the manga) was the f like in music (forte) lol. Of course some people may be like if they didn't know his name was Forte and Not Bass in the Japanese version. And everyone knows why forte now Has a slash on his symbol. (we dont know why he has it in the Anime though) _________________ Tsk tsk tsk
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Plantman It's only Forever... Not long at all!
Age: 44 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1819 Location: Mexico
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Did anyone ever thought that maybe is that black/white because of Enzan's hair? XD _________________ Hecha en MÉXICO - Avatar by Me.
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Phantomman.EXE Net Savior
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 106
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Shonshiwo15 wrote: | Actually, Forte's symbol (IN the manga) was the f like in music (forte) lol. Of course some people may be like if they didn't know his name was Forte and Not Bass in the Japanese version. And everyone knows why forte now Has a slash on his symbol. (we dont know why he has it in the Anime though) |
eh? really? I never noticed it was an f, I just thought it was some decorative symbol... |
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Raijin Soul Unison
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 842 Location: Sask. Canada
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Did anyone ever thought that maybe is that black/white because of Enzan's hair? XD |
Yes. Angelidollinda, Lido Azn Girl, TheWebbuilder, illusion, and probably more I missed just skimming the first page of the topic now. Didn't read the thread too closely, did you?
Quote: | I always thought Protoman's symbol was Enzan & his dad's company icon? And Megaman's is the symbot that Netto's dad wears.
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Yeah, very good. The navis wear the icons because their operator's fathers use the icon because it's a family icon. But the question here is WHY is it the family icon? We're trying to look at what the appearance of the icon signifies, and a red circle with a yellow border cut down the middle into two semi-trapezoidal segments doesn't exactly scream "family symbol". We want to know simply why the icon looks the way it does.
Though I'd like to point out I don't remember IPC or Shuuseki ever using Protoman's icon. Could I see a reference pic or screenshot? |
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Sonicsurfer
Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 40 Location: Taking some time to reflect...
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I've never seen Chaud's symbol used anywhere but on his jacket and Protoman, but I do know that the Hikari symbol was [spoil:1ef2abb823]on the front of Lan's dad's desk (I won't try to spell his name) when you went into his locked office near the end of Exe 3.[/spoil:1ef2abb823] |
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Plantman It's only Forever... Not long at all!
Age: 44 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1819 Location: Mexico
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Raijin wrote: | Yes. Angelidollinda, Lido Azn Girl, TheWebbuilder, illusion, and probably more I missed just skimming the first page of the topic now. Didn't read the thread too closely, did you? |
Yeah I did, for some reason I ended up saying something completely different, I meant to say something related to Enzan's father, not him XD _________________ Hecha en MÉXICO - Avatar by Me.
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JadedX Net Battler
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 58 Location: Going mentaly insane somewhere.
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Raijin wrote: | Quote: | Did anyone ever thought that maybe is that black/white because of Enzan's hair? XD |
Yes. Angelidollinda, Lido Azn Girl, TheWebbuilder, illusion, and probably more I missed just skimming the first page of the topic now. Didn't read the thread too closely, did you?
Quote: | I always thought Protoman's symbol was Enzan & his dad's company icon? And Megaman's is the symbot that Netto's dad wears.
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Yeah, very good. The navis wear the icons because their operator's fathers use the icon because it's a family icon. But the question here is WHY is it the family icon? We're trying to look at what the appearance of the icon signifies, and a red circle with a yellow border cut down the middle into two semi-trapezoidal segments doesn't exactly scream "family symbol". We want to know simply why the icon looks the way it does.
Though I'd like to point out I don't remember IPC or Shuuseki ever using Protoman's icon. Could I see a reference pic or screenshot? |
The only one I can think of right now was in Axess episode 1 Enzan/Chaud [spoil:4fa7c79ea3]has a commercial and it shows a pet with the symbol at the end. [spoiler/] That always made me think it was IPC thing cause why would they use his pet in a commercial??? I maybe wrong but, its an idea. If you want a pic of it I can load it up later. [/spoil:4fa7c79ea3] _________________
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Raijin Soul Unison
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 842 Location: Sask. Canada
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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That's no spoiler since the episode is already dubbed and all.
They used Protoman's PET in the commercial because Chaud was the one acting in the commercial. He was using his own PET as an example. What else were they supposed to show in the commercial, a completely un-customized PET with no icon? |
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Nazne Shukei - Hakuteiken
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1133
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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I think it was supposed to be half-black-half-white to symbolize the Ijuin family's dysfunctional hairstyles, and their artist just had a wobbly desk. :P
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JadedX Net Battler
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 58 Location: Going mentaly insane somewhere.
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Raijin wrote: | That's no spoiler since the episode is already dubbed and all.
They used Protoman's PET in the commercial because Chaud was the one acting in the commercial. He was using his own PET as an example. What else were they supposed to show in the commercial, a completely un-customized PET with no icon? |
I understand your point it was a guess, better then the hair idea Plus I spoiled it to be safe, didn't want to piss anyone off. _________________
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Enzan_Blues_FanGirl Darkloid
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 538 Location: Sitting on Dark Blues
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I think it's Enzan's Hair color. And It's plain awesome! Sorry.. You are talking to a Blues FanGirl!
But it does kinda look like the Ying-Yang sign.
I've just known it as Blues' Sign. So.... I don't know the whole story behind it or anything.
Just that's it's Enzan's hair color and looks plain awesome! _________________
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Raijin Soul Unison
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 842 Location: Sask. Canada
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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JadedX wrote: |
I understand your point it was a guess, better then the hair idea :lol: Plus I spoiled it to be safe, didn't want to piss anyone off. |
I wish you'd use common sense instead of "being safe". I actually find it pretty annoying highlighting a spoiler only to find it's something either everybody knows already or something that's not interesting enough that somebody would not want to know if they hadn't seen it yet. Way too many people on this board over-use the spoiler tag. I'd prefer to see better judgement instead of paranoia. |
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luigimega777
Joined: 14 May 2005 Posts: 19 Location: near the equator
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, its ying yang symbol _________________ Dont' Overdo it...First Aid |
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Aquaman OS Net Police
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 448
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Azureman.EXE"]The green cross on the Metool's helmets is just a symbol for construction workers in Japan. Which is why Gutsman also has it on his chest(Remember, in the original Rockman, Mets were exclusive to Gutsman's stage until you got to Wily's fort.)
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Yep thats because in the orginal games Gutsman was built to assist in construction work. The orginal 9 robot masters created by Dr. Light all had human jobs they were created to assist with excluding the prototype who was just a test to see if they worked. When Wily got a ahold of the 6 he found their systems also doubled as useful weapons. All the remaining robots were built just to kill and destroy. In short Gutsman is supposed to be a construction worker with the Metools as his "drones". |
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Phantomman.EXE Net Savior
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 106
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sonicsurfer wrote: | Well, I've never seen Chaud's symbol used anywhere but on his jacket and Protoman, but I do know that the Hikari symbol was [spoil:b66bb655cf]on the front of Lan's dad's desk (I won't try to spell his name) when you went into his locked office near the end of Exe 3.[/spoil:b66bb655cf] |
it's also on the front of Yuuchiro's shirt, where the pocket would be |
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