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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Yu-Gi-Oh! Deck Rater! Reply with quote

Alright guys, I'll make this more easier. I'll post the Forbidden and limited list as my first two posts.

FOR ADVANCED PLAY


I. Forbidden Cards

You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck:




Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Change of Heart
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Confiscation
Dark Hole
Fiber Jar
Harpie's Feather Duster
Imperial Order
Magical Scientist
Makyura the Destructor
Mirage of Nightmare
Monster Reborn
Painful Choice
Raigeki
The Forceful Sentry
Witch of the Black Forest
Yata-Garasu


NEW! - Butterfly Dagger - Elma, Change of Heart, Confiscation, Fiber Jar, Magical Scientist, Makyura the Destructor, Mirage of Nightmare, Painful Choice, The Forceful Sentry



II. Limited Cards



You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:


Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Call of the Haunted
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Cyber Jar
D. D. Warrior Lady
Dark Magician of Chaos
Deck Devastation Virus
Delinquent Duo
Exiled Force
Exodia the Forbidden One
Graceful Charity
Heavy Storm
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Lightning Vortex
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Mirror Force
Morphing Jar
Mystical Space Typhoon
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Protector of the Sanctuary
Reckless Greed
Reflect Bounder
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Ring of Destruction
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Sangan
Sinister Serpent
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
Torrential Tribute
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand



NEW! D. D. Warrior Lady, Deck Devastation Virus, Delinquent Duo, Graceful Charity, Lightning Vortex, Mirror Force, Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys, Sangan, United We Stand



III. Semi-Limited Cards



You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:



Abyss Soldier
Creature Swap
Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow
Emergency Provisions
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Gravity Bind
Last Turn
Level Limit - Area B
Manticore of Darkness
Marauding Captain
Night Assailant
Nobleman of Crossout
Reinforcement of the Army
Upstart Goblin
Vampire Lord


NEW! Abyss Soldier, Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow, Emergency Provisions, Good Goblin Housekeeping, Gravity Bind, Level Limit - Area B, Night Assailant, Upstart Goblin, Vampire Lord
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOR TRADITIONAL PLAY


I. Forbidden Cards

There are no Forbidden Cards in Traditional Format.





II. Limited Cards



You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:


Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Call of the Haunted
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Change of Heart
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Confiscation
Cyber Jar
D. D. Warrior Lady
Dark Hole
Dark Magician of Chaos
Deck Devastation Virus
Delinquent Duo
Exiled Force
Exodia the Forbidden One
Fiber Jar
Graceful Charity
Harpie's Feather Duster
Heavy Storm
Imperial Order
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Lightning Vortex
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Magical Scientist
Makyura the Destructor
Mirage of Nightmare
Mirror Force
Monster Reborn
Morphing Jar
Mystical Space Typhoon
Painful Choice
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Protector of the Sanctuary
Raigeki
Reckless Greed
Reflect Bounder
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Ring of Destruction
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Sangan
Sinister Serpent
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
The Forceful Sentry
Torrential Tribute
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand
Witch of the Black Forest
Yata-Garasu



NEW! D. D. Warrior Lady, Deck Devastation Virus, Lightning Vortex, Makyura the Destructor, Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys



III. Semi-Limited Cards



You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:



Abyss Soldier
Creature Swap
Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow
Emergency Provisions
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Gravity Bind
Last Turn
Level Limit - Area B
Manticore of Darkness
Marauding Captain
Night Assailant
Nobleman of Crossout
Reinforcement of the Army
Upstart Goblin
Vampire Lord


NEW! Abyss Soldier, Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow, Emergency Provisions, Good Goblin Housekeeping, Gravity Bind, Level Limit - Area B, Night Assailant, Upstart Goblin, Vampire Lord
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you seen all the crap they're trying to pull? They're banning all of the cards that "give you too much of an advantage," and are releasing weaker, suckier versions of the cards.

I personally cannot see why Monster Reborn or Raigeki are banned. Harpie's Feather Duster, yes. But Change of Heart? Dark Hole?

Too much of an advantage my butt.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your looking at the advanced one. Advanced is for like... advanced stuff and traditional is like Friendly tournaments and casual play with your friends.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

been looking for mirage of nitemare. any idea where to get it? it's in dark beggining right? or maybe the next dark renewal?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i really hate the idea of the banning... everyone works soo hard to get the cards then... well... *poof!* anyways, i know in april a few cards are coming back, and some are being banned *waves goodbye to change of heart and fiber jar* but at least mirror force and graceful charity are returning!!

By the way, has anyone seen the flaming eternity cards? O__O man, all ive gotten is lightning vortex so far...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the Yu-Gi-Oh card game is one of the most broken card games out there, and it can't be denied. Now they are making you pay a price for certain cards, something we have seen in Card games like Pokemon, .Hack//Enemy, and Magic the Gathering. If you can't deal with it, don't play tournaments, simple as that. Just saying, casuals won't get you to the World Tournament if that's your goal...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still a big fan of the card game, Regardless of what they do to the Ban list, big deal, some cards can't be used, finding new ways to do the things those cards did along with newer better decks can be made w/o the same 15 cards in everyones deck.
Tournys are still fun and one day i'll be able to go to the World championships someday.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... you don't need to follow the ban list you know. i can play casually.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

people usually play by the rules so they can get ready for a tournament or something. Or maybe they just like following directions, me - I like to follow directions.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's rather simple. my friends don't follow the ban list. we don't go to sanction tornaments those who do have two decks.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really pisses me off that theyve gotten rid of the best cards. I spent a lot of time and money for most of my cards and now my whole deck is blown to hell.Im not going to be able to get into official tournaments anywhere.Yes, I know your going to say "Well not a lot of people have money to buy cards with." Yes, I admit that, but think the Stores and Konamis prespective. Does it make sense to ban cards? They are going to see a hell of a lot less income because of these bannings because a lot of cards are not going to be in demand that someone buys a whole box just for a chance to get the cards. ((Yes, I know TONS of people like that, me included.))Goodbye profits. The game is going to be shot down to hell and the game is going to die out, just like most of the other trading card games. I, for one, do not wish to see this, as I spend almost all my spare time Playing the Yu-Gi-Oh card game. I never had so much fun with a game, and If I had the choice between Keeping the game alive and any other leisure The Yu-Gi-Oh card game has my pick. It may sound like I am exaggerating but I am dead serious.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It usually doesn't matter about the cards rarity, though a lot of rare cards are strong and have good effects, but I think it's the way you use your deck/cards. And you have to have a good strategy through-out the whole duel or else you'll make a move and then go "Oh crap, I should've done that!".
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm making a tounament in my town. We're following the restricted list, but not the banned one. We're making our own. Some of those cards that're banned are understandable (Butterfly Dagger-Elma. Wondering why it is? PM me). But things like Monster Reborn, and the ones that came in the original starter deck shouldn't be banned.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well monster reborn i agree isnt exactly a Cheap Game winning card same with Change of heart... but still i think we can all agree that Chaos Emperor Dragon should be banned and also some of those other cards on the ban list also deserve to be banned ( to Many cheap combo's.. Like with Butterfly Dagger Elma)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question to them, if we're banned to use a card, why'd you make it in the first place? I swear they're so wierd.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Yu-Gi-Oh! Deck Rater! Reply with quote

I'll tell you some reasons

I. Forbidden Cards

Quote:
Butterfly Dagger - Elma


Infinite Combos, DUH

Quote:
Change of Heart


Free Tribute or Free Effect...

Quote:
Confiscation


I don't understand why either......

Quote:
Dark Hole


Harpie's Feather Duster

Quote:
Fiber Jar


Combo: Soul Release or some other Remove from Play card and make your opponent not have them

Quote:
Imperial Order


Free Magic Jammer

Quote:
Magical Scientist


HALLEJUAH!!! The OTK IS GONE!!!

Quote:
Makyura the Destructor


I dunno...

Quote:
Mirage of Nightmare


Some combo I forgot...

Quote:
Monster Reborn


Free Tribute and some other crap... I'd do the LEvia Effect again...

Quote:
Painful Choice


Better Draws anyone?

Quote:
The Forceful Sentry


This is one of the stupid Bans...

Quote:
Yata-Garasu


Yata-LOCK ISH GONE!!!!

II. Limited Cards

Quote:
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning


Ban this... PLEASE... It's a Kill Effect Remove your Opp's creature and Attack Directly with your own...

Quote:
D. D. Warrior Lady


CEEEE-LA-Brat-TION TIME C'MON!!!

Quote:
Delinquent Duo


Well... Since some of the cards that combo with this are gone...

Quote:
Graceful Charity


Too... Cheap...

Quote:
Lightning Vortex


I should get this card... Raigeki for two cards...

Quote:
Mirror Force


What a Freakin Surprise...

Quote:
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys


I saw this thing in Action and dang... TOO powerful... weak but when it comes back... bye bye traps... bye bye field... bye bye Premature/Call

Quote:
United We Stand


I'ma have nightmares... The Scapegoat that killed me...

III. Semi-Limited Cards

Quote:
Abyss Soldier


One card for a nightmare Penguin Effect? Return their Horus 8 Return Swords...

Quote:
Good Goblin Housekeeping


Recycling Cards...

Quote:
Level Limit - Area B


See Mobius See Low Defense... See Mobius switched to defense even after destroying it...

Quote:
Night Assailant


See: Costs for Cards... See Returning Night Assilant, See Returning Magician of Faith...

Quote:
Upstart Goblin


Only thing easier to use than Pot of Greed/Jar of greed...

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Vampire Lord


Stop... the... deck... destruction...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, thanks for taking the time to tell us. I really appreciate it, and you guys don't want to fight my Scapegoats. MagePower with United we Stand, Ouch!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goten8905 wrote:
wow, thanks for taking the time to tell us. I really appreciate it, and you guys don't want to fight my Scapegoats. MagePower with United we Stand, Ouch!


I saw that SOmbo and I was Laughing I got Attacked and now I'm scared of Scapegoats Ever sInce...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha, I did it to the "best" dueler at my school. I think he was gonna quit. Or something.
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