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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean successor......not Predecessor. Ocarina of Time was the very first game.

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Um. Wind Waker takes place much later after the normal storylines, I'm sure. Hyrule is flooded at the time. Hyrule is not flooded on the others. Either Wind Waker takes place after the other Zelda games, or they're all in an alternate storyline.


....Wrong...

[spoil:9639bb38b9]Remember the ending of Wind Waker??? When Link and Tetra set off to search for a new land to call Hyrule??? That's the land where all the following Zelda games take place. And it makes sense too if you consider that the layout for A Link to The Past is very different from that in Ocarina of Time.[/spoil:9639bb38b9]
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrkXFuZion wrote:
You mean successor......not Predecessor. Ocarina of Time was the very first game.

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Um. Wind Waker takes place much later after the normal storylines, I'm sure. Hyrule is flooded at the time. Hyrule is not flooded on the others. Either Wind Waker takes place after the other Zelda games, or they're all in an alternate storyline.


....Wrong...

[spoil:b96578a76c]Remember the ending of Wind Waker??? When Link and Tetra set off to search for a new land to call Hyrule??? That's the land where all the following Zelda games take place. And it makes sense too if you consider that the layout for A Link to The Past is very different from that in Ocarina of Time.[/spoil:b96578a76c]


Yeah, exactly what I meant.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, the ladscape is very similar between OoT and LttP!
Death Mountain is in the same spot, the castle is in the same spot, there's a big swamp where Lake Hylia used to be, the desert is kinda in the west...
The only things that don't fit are Kakariko Village and the lost woods, both of which should be on the east side of the map, not west.
I think... well this is weird, work with me.
There are 2 interpretations of OoT's ending.
1) When Link got sent back in time at the very end, only he went back. Nothing else did. So Zelda was left with the task of rebuilding, etc. She kinda makes it sound like this when she says good-bye, and the manga says something similar. Therefore, hero gone = no hero for when evil starts to show up = WW. (They even say in that game that Link has no relation to Hero of Time Link, he just became a hero on his own.)
2) Link goes back in time, Hyrule goes back as well. Hero = no cracks in seal = LttP, LoZ, etc. etc... Where the Link (in LttP anyhoo) IS related to the line of knights.
I don't really think Nintendo will come out and say this, but it looks to be very plausible...
And I don't see how this new game can fit inbetween OoT and WW... WW only mentions one great hero, and that when he left the land his triforce got split up and seperated, hence the need to find all the pieces of it. The Link in Twilight Princess most definately HAS a piece of Triforce, he's got the mark on his hand and Nintendo says that's going to be really important...
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, the ladscape is very similar between OoT and LttP!
Death Mountain is in the same spot, the castle is in the same spot, there's a big swamp where Lake Hylia used to be, the desert is kinda in the west...
The only things that don't fit are Kakariko Village and the lost woods, both of which should be on the east side of the map, not west.
I think... well this is weird, work with me.


Wrong...Only Death Mountain and Zora's River are where it was in the other games. The Castle is now in the center of the map, the lost woods are in the northwest, The Desert is to the southwest, Lake Hylia is in the Southeast, and the Eastern Palace was not in the other Zelda games as well as the Haunted Grove and the Swamp of Evil. And Kakariko is far from it's proper place.

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There are 2 interpretations of OoT's ending.
1) When Link got sent back in time at the very end, only he went back. Nothing else did. So Zelda was left with the task of rebuilding, etc. She kinda makes it sound like this when she says good-bye, and the manga says something similar. Therefore, hero gone = no hero for when evil starts to show up = WW. (They even say in that game that Link has no relation to Hero of Time Link, he just became a hero on his own.)
2) Link goes back in time, Hyrule goes back as well. Hero = no cracks in seal = LttP, LoZ, etc. etc... Where the Link (in LttP anyhoo) IS related to the line of knights.
I don't really think Nintendo will come out and say this, but it looks to be very plausible...


No, the proper interpretation was that Link was sent back to his proper time by the Princess Zelda after the defeat of Ganon. By defeating Ganon and sending him to the Sacred Realm, he cleansed Hyrule completely of his evil, meaning that Ganon never happened in the past and it would stay that way until the point in time where Link was meant to defeat Ganon as an adult. I know it's very confusing and rather random and spontaneous to have an enemy not exist until right before his banishment but that's how it goes....unless we misunderstood.

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And I don't see how this new game can fit inbetween OoT and WW... WW only mentions one great hero, and that when he left the land his triforce got split up and seperated, hence the need to find all the pieces of it. The Link in Twilight Princess most definately HAS a piece of Triforce, he's got the mark on his hand and Nintendo says that's going to be really important...


No one ever said it was to go between Wind Waker and Ocarina of Time. I said sequel not prequel..... And besides...Majora's Mask was between the two anyways. Twilight Princess is supposed to go after The Wind Waker.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noooo, Ao-- Au--- guy-making-game-who's-not-Miyamoto-anymore says it takes place between OoT and WW.
...and I'd say more but I'm late for junk, sooo... be back later!
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2005 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

His name is Aonuma. And TP was said to take place after the Wind Waker. Why some ever came up with the idea of the newest game taking place after Ocarina, no idea. Unless you see it like this, hm, humans came directly after the Dinosaurs... you just left out some periods of evolution.

Anyway. GamePro 6/2005 featured an interview with Aonuma (published before E3, so it's old news), and he clearly said that there will be no voice acting in this game. Someone reading out a few lines to make a trailer sound better doesn't necessarily mean speaking characters.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2005 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think the timeline really matters that much to me...
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xfyrethespooky wrote:
i don't think the timeline really matters that much to me...


It shouldn't matter so much, but some just need to get the facts.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*grumblegrumble*
I have searched high and low, and MWAHAHA! I win.
http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/thelegendofzelda/preview_6125311-2.html
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...the team was asked how the storyline of Twilight Princess fits into the overall narrative of the Zelda series. The response was that, chronologically speaking, this game takes place a few decades after Ocarina of Time, but before Wind Waker.
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, and what about that?
Gamespy wrote:
Q: In terms of the overall storyline, where does the Twilight Princess fit in?
A: Chronologically speaking, it takes place a few decades after The Wind Waker.

(source: http://cube.gamespy.com/articles/615/615833p2.html -below the photo)

....apparently, all we could do is wait. Or make a list how many websites vote for OoT->TP or WW->TP ^^;
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HM. That's not fun.
I could've SWORN I first saw the "after-OoT" thing at IGN, and IGN and Gamespy are the same company, rigjt...?
Oh well. Patience will win the day yet again.
(C'mooon after-OoT! No after-WW!)
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so Nintendo said two different things, no? if so, they're oxymorons...

the game looks sweet. definately a must-buy.

does anyone know how to beat [spoil:1deb598cba]Ganondork's third phase in WW?[/spoil:1deb598cba]
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ganondorf has no "3rd phase".......

[spoil:74c02bf692]If you're talking about Puppet Ganon's third form which is based on Moldorm from LttP and LA, there's no "secret" to defeating it. All you have to do is hit it in the tail twice with the Light Arrows. Your best bet is to Hookshot to the platforms above the ground and have both the magic and maximum arrow upgrades. Also, hitting Puppet Ganon in the face with the Master Sword will stun it for a short amount of time. Just practice your aim. And make sure you get a photo of it as well.[/spoil:74c02bf692]
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[spoil:cef95391fd]smacking him in the face stops him for 2 seconds. not long enough to whip out the arrows. hmmm maybe i should try the sniping thing from the platforms above?[/spoil:cef95391fd]
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[spoil:cc6a8ea9e0]Actually, the face hits vary. It can be anywhere from 2 seconds to 5. I'm not entirely sure exactly how to make Puppet Ganon stunned longer but an instant spin swing seems to work. Every time he comes near, I just rotate and press A and he's stunned long enough for me to aim at where he' going to move after her recovers.[/spoil:cc6a8ea9e0]
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks amazing and I'm really looking forward to playing this. Zelda games are usually great, and I'll be reserving it really soon.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is up with the Link-werewolf thing? Anyone understand that?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*points to the 3rd post of this thread.*

>_<

I suggest you actually read it this time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few weeks ago, i read some things in an interview:

- Ganondorf is involved, but its not sure what his role will be in the game.

probably the main villain, because why bring ganondorf and not make him the final boss? Also, it is rumored that it might be Phantom Ganon from OoT who has escaped from the voide betwen dimensions.

- You can name your horse (its standard name is Epona, but you can change the name).

Ill call the horse Epona anyway Razz

- You summon the eagle by using a leaf to whisle and send it to a target to hit.

wow, just a replacement of the seagull in WW. Will there be an music instrument somewhere in the game to do it, instead of finding leafs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugging you all with the timeline stuff again, but -
The German N-Zone, a trustworthy game magazine (Nintendo-only) had (of course, which game mag doesn't these days) an article about TP also stating that it takes place after Oot, before WW.
Considering that the working title (if it wasn't made up by some internet people though) was Wind Waker 2 (about a year ago?), they sure worked a lot on this game.
However, that article didn't reveal any other new and exciting details apart from something many might find worth marking their calendars with thick red circles:
Nintendo is planning to release Twilight Princes simultaneously, worldwide in November 2005. ...or did you all already know?
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