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Tachyon360
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| ComicX6 wrote: | | I'm saying that it has potential. |
They've got about 15 episodes left, give or take a few. It's an impossible task. The end of Stream might turn out okay, but holistically, Stream sucks either way.
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Viewtiful Starman
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That's just his opinion Tachyon.
Just let him have and you have your own, instead of stating yours as a fact and pretty much saying his is wrong.
Anyhow, considering this episode and a few of the future episode titles, I think that Stream could have a chance to pull off what the people who dislike it are hoping for... |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Flame Buster wrote: | | Neko wrote: | Okay, I'm late but I just got my hands on the ep. Oh, I loved it! Dark Rockman is so.... creepy :3 Delightfully so. And because the same person does both voices (I think) Rockman has much potential to sound very, very evil.
Red eyes help, I LOVE red eyes. And plot was nice too, I liked the interaction between everyone. And Netto wasn't annoying, that was a plus.
Also: Bandaid chip = awesome
Edit: I've rewatched the ep and I noticed something, even after Dark Rockman reveals himself to Netto he still calls Netto "Netto-kun" which is what Rockman calls him. I just found that to be a tad interesting o_O |
I liked that too and I think Rockman just calls him Netto-Kun because he still has aspects of Rockman in him. |
Actually, the "-kun" suffix doesn't neccessarily mean Netto is beloved to Dark Rockman... it simply shows that Netto is still not old enough to be called a man. I've seen many cases where a villain calls a child protagonist with "-kun".
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CnCBoy
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:26 am Post subject: |
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i think Dark Rockman use the suffix -kun only for cause trouble too netto. When the hologram explose he use only netto. he says Sayonara Netto.
Shadows man operator isn't scarred here. Shadows man was really good here when he throws those objet in metal for reveal dark Rockman (I forgot the name -_-; )
I think they are all really good voiced here with special mention for Dark Rockman and Shadows man operator. But they will put stupid voice in the dub like always T_T [/quote]
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Kirbopher15
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| I dunno if EVERYTHING can possibly be solved within 15 episodes, I still think that Stream is gonna end up lasting longer. |
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Megagirl.exe
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Just hope 15 episodes is enough for Stream.
Actually CnCBoy, I heard that D-Rockman said sayonara Netto-kun before the hologram explose.
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Mansako
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:10 am Post subject: |
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I betcha the chaos unisons will happen soon too heres my theroy
[spoil:a9ed8ecd03]you know how dark rockman used the giga cannon pa right? well i betcha taht the Soul chips that netto slots in for rock when the time is needed that drkrock will use that abilty to chaos unison with that navi chip[/spoil:a9ed8ecd03]
good theroy
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Neko
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Yeup, I just thought it interesting that he called him -kun that's all. It's by no means a term of enderment in this case. Still you can specualate of wether or not Dark Rockman isn't as different from Rockman. Or maybe it's a reason why he hates him.
Who knows, the only reason *I* noticed it was when Dark Rockman said it for the third time i'm like "Man that's creepy" cause of how scary his voice sounds o_O
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Tachyon360
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| Viewtiful Starman wrote: | That's just his opinion Tachyon.
Just let him have and you have your own, instead of stating yours as a fact and pretty much saying his is wrong.
Anyhow, considering this episode and a few of the future episode titles, I think that Stream could have a chance to pull off what the people who dislike it are hoping for... |
I never once said, "I'm right and you're wrong." I'm not attacking his opinions, but rather arguing a dissenting point of view. Do I need to advertise that so there's no potential offense? (I really am asking that question seriously.)
I'll try and point out what I can objectively, or at least as objectively as something innately subjective can be, and then state my opinions. Most of it's just restating what I said before in greater detail. Sorry if it sounds poignant, but that's just my writing style.
The thing is, some of his suggestions would only work if they were done earlier. For example, if they pour the rest of the Soul Unisons in, it'll just be one big soul-orgy, and most of those souls wouldn't see much action.
There are very few episodes left. While there were some really good anime titles that were about as long as Stream has left to go, Stream cannot do it. The volume of characters and the complexity of the plot (at least the more serious aspect of it) simply cannot be effectively pressed down into such a short length of time.
Even if they manage to end the series strongly, what would you think of when you'd look back on the series? It would be like a burnt loaf of bread. The inside might still be nice and tasty, but the rest is dry, crusty, and through a lot of it, bitter. Out of 36 episodes so far, about 30 were fillers (and I'm using the term liberally here), maybe ~25 if you don't count the weaker plot-pushing episodes as fillers.
In my own personal opinion, I'm hoping Stream ends with a fizzle. Not a whimper, since that would just be pointless, but not a bang either, since they'd need to cram too much in for that at this point. If they'd keep things interesting enough to view, but not spread themselves too thin like they did with the first two episodes, they'd not only leave the story wide open for another sequel series, but also gently end the series without packing eveything they left out into the last 5 episodes.
From there, in the next series, instead of spreading themselves thin with a deliciously complex plot, only to provide something shallow and bland, they could wrap up the plot strongly and correct their mistakes. The bigger, more serious plot points in Stream could easily be streched out into a whole series if they'd so choose. |
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Kirbopher15
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| Who knows, maybe when Stream ends, it will end the MMBN4 aspect of it with Duo, but when the NEXT show comes, it'll cover more of the MMBN5 aspects than Stream has, and also by then, MMBN6. But that's my opinion ONLY if it WILL end in 15 episodes, I still think it'll stick around longer than the others. |
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Ganon
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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I LOVED THIS EPISODE....
sorry...teh eyes, teh red eyes.
And teh creppy yet very calm voice of teh DS Rockman.
"I'm gonna watch it again and again and AGAIN!!!" -my brother after the first episode of Yu Yu Hakusho.
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JunkmanSP
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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In the next few shows, e have the Neo WWW falling and cross fusion leaving(hopefully, cross your fingers  )
I'd say it IS getting better
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Tachyon360
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Cross Fusion wouldn't be so bad if it didn't become so overused and repetetive. I just wish they'd rework it a bit, as opposed to keeping it the way it is or doing away with it altogether.
As for the NeoWWW dissolving, that would be a dream come true. They're pitiful and worthless. |
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Kirbopher15
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Not to mention extremely sick in the head, I'm looking at you, VIDDY. PINK. BUNNIES. RANDOM ARTIFACTS...
...AND STUFF. If Neo WWW will do anything as their grand finale, I think that just them all doing Cross Fusion with those other Synchro Chips that Mama Gauss was cookin' up in the tubes, and in a big, cliamtic two-parter, they all lose horribly, get arrested, Tesla escapes, and she comes back for the finale of Stream around the end for some necassary reason. Yes, it involves Cross Fusion, but I'm sure many would be curious to see what they would all look like, and it would be one time where Neo WWW would actually be doing something slightly cool. Then they'll never do it again and it'll be all done. Now watch as everyone disagrees with me. |
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ComicX6
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| Kirbopher15 wrote: | | I still think it'll stick around longer than the others. |
That's what I think too, I think we'll get Stream part3. There is so much going on now, it better take a while to resolve it. If they do compress everything in 15 eps, it will probably be done very poorly and with a huge amount of plotholes. And thanks for the help Tachyon360. :]
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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I'm wondering, what was the whole point of Dark Rockman exchanging places with Rockman? He didn't do anything of importance.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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[spoil:62a7d62ba2]Ugh!Another evil double ruining the hero's rep!At least Dark Rockman changed color so that wont happen again.
| Quote: | | I'm wondering, what was the whole point of Dark Rockman exchanging places with Rockman? |
I guess he wanted Netto destracted long enough for the real Rockman to be deleted...The bandage thing was funny though...[/spoil:62a7d62ba2] |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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This is my favorite episode yet.
I love [spoil:95546da3e5]Dark Rockman! He's so evil!![/spoil:95546da3e5] :]
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Tachyon360
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| ComicX6 wrote: | | That's what I think too, I think we'll get Stream part3. There is so much going on now, it better take a while to resolve it. |
Good point. Maybe it's called Stream for a reason. It'll just keep going, like streaming Internet radio.
| ComicX6 wrote: | | And thanks for the help Tachyon360. |
Any time. |
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Kirbopher15
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Wasn't that why it was called 'Stream'? Because it continued directly from AXESS? |
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