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Himochi Kouen Net Battler
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 63 Location: Mt. Dora, FL
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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You're (more or less) all presuming that Rock's Soul Unisons and Styles make him stronger. This isn't the case. They merely add new abilities to him that give him tactical advantages. His level of power has never changed, if you really think about it.
Blues has as sharp a mind as he does a sword. (Realize of course, I'm talking about before being dubbed. Even I wouldn't call him THAT stupid. >_>) Even facing off against said changes, Blues would have a mental tactical advantage to counter Rock's physical one(s).
So really, any way you look at it, these two Navis are step for step, always have been, and probably always will be. _________________ "What did you do?"
"I blew it's head off."
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Seph DeVeillian
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 5 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Razorman .Exe wrote: | TheWebbuilder wrote: | Didn't we find out in the N1? Blues won by a very narrow margin. |
Slifer. EXE wrote: | That was before the style changes/soul unisons |
TheWebbuilder does have a point, but I think that the Style Changes and Soul Unisons would delete that margin. However, Blues has also progressed in his fighting abilities since their last battle. So, I think it'd be a tie -.- |
Doesn't Blues aquire a style, too, in the manga? _________________ What were to happen if the awesome power of the red lightning were to hit the equally mighty blue whirlwind? |
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Enzan_Blues_FanGirl Darkloid
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 538 Location: Sitting on Dark Blues
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm.. Never thought of it that way... _________________
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Enzan_Blues_FanGirl Darkloid
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 538 Location: Sitting on Dark Blues
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Seph DeVeillian wrote: | Razorman .Exe wrote: | TheWebbuilder wrote: | Didn't we find out in the N1? Blues won by a very narrow margin. |
Slifer. EXE wrote: | That was before the style changes/soul unisons |
TheWebbuilder does have a point, but I think that the Style Changes and Soul Unisons would delete that margin. However, Blues has also progressed in his fighting abilities since their last battle. So, I think it'd be a tie -.- |
Doesn't Blues aquire a style, too, in the manga? |
Uhh... I only have book 1-5... And he doesn't in those.... _________________
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Midnight This is a Hilbert Space
Age: 37 Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 3089 Location: The AfterMath. Otherwise, New York City.
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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That is true...based on what I've seen, it's pretty much up to the flip of a coin. *shrugs*
ETA: Yeah. That's in Book 6. *waves* _________________ Today, these three players are after Big Bucks! But they'll have to avoid the Whammy, as they play the most exciting game of their lives! From Television City in Hollywood! It's time to 'Press Your Luck!'--Rod Roddy
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Zodiac Net Police
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 434 Location: Avoiding the Author's whip. I'll edit. I promise!
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it is difficult. I suppose I do have to go with Rockman, just because of versatility, plus he's more personable. It is difficult though, just because of the fact that Blues, despite extreme specialization, can overcome practically anything. "Overspecialize, and you breed in weakness." (quote by Major Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell). This does not seem to apply to Blues. _________________ Church: Are you following any of this?
Caboose: I think so. That guy Tex is a robot, and you're his boyfriend. So that makes you... a gay robot.
Church: ... That's right... I'm a gay robot.
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Enzan_Blues_FanGirl Darkloid
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 538 Location: Sitting on Dark Blues
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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So he does have a.. Oh! That's soo cool!
I agree... _________________
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Plantman It's only Forever... Not long at all!
Age: 44 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1819 Location: Mexico
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Message fom Tabby because she's too busy *coughlazycough* and sent me to do her job XP
Don't double post Enzan_Blues_FanGirl. If you want to say something else you forgot in your previous post, please edit it and include the extra comments. Remember the rules ask not to double post.
As for the Style Changes/Soul Unisons making Rock stronger, it doesn't make him stronger but means he's more 'versatile' in regards of skills he can use, he can change tactics from one soul to another. I think people look at Soul Unisons/Style changes as an 'advantage' -remember with Style Changes Rock doesn't need battle chips- in regards to Blues that would seem 'unfair'. _________________ Hecha en MÉXICO - Avatar by Me.
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Enzan_Blues_FanGirl Darkloid
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 538 Location: Sitting on Dark Blues
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry Tabby... I've been on neopets to much... Okay... I'm being a little annoying to some people I can tell... *sighs* I'm really sorry... Neopets is a lot diffrent form cool sites like this.
Anyway... Looks like RockMan and Blues are tying... I've seen people posting "RockMan" and others "Blues." RockMan does have the Soul stuff... But Blues has Speed and Power and Brains! But... RockMan... *sighs*
Sorry... Talked to much again... :chat: :grr: I hate myself sometimes! :grr: _________________
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Megaman X Net Savior
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 192
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry my post sounded mean but you no just saying ^_^ |
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BluesKirby Net Savior
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 145 Location: In front of my comp(Duh!)
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Me:Oh really?!Rockman wins?Nope.Blues wins?Nah.
Blues:Then who?
Me:It's KIRBY-KUN DA STAR WARRIOR OF COURSEEEE~! C'mon guys,
Kirbies have an ability no other navis posess...inhaling!*inhales everything in sight*See?And I've got an advantage too.After all,I'm a sort-of alchemist,and I know no-jutsues too!*puts on Naruto headband*BLACK HOLE NO JUTSUUUUU~!*soon there's nothing left exept me*Whew!
Yah,sorry but I've gone hyper again-can't...resist....!!YATTA~!*goes hyper* :D
Blues:Aw maan,why does Kirby-kun always goes hyper? -_-;
Blues Kirby
POYO! _________________ I'm STILL half-Blues,half-Kirby de-nyu!
I'm also hangin' out in BZP too(my screename's Takua01,find me there) |
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Hirun
Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 16 Location: \o/ Somewhere! >.> I forgot.
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Buruusu all the way. -_-; _________________ There will be something here... EVENTUALLY! |
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T$ Net Battler
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 97 Location: Canada eh?
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Rockman pwns blues, hands down.
and is cross fusion fight, Netto pwns Enzan.
Why do you ask?
Cause with long range attacks and the great ability for close up attacks, rockman will win. Along with Netto's naturaly good net battling skills. |
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TheWebbuilder I support Rhythm x Blues!
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 1124 Location: I don't know... But I hear laughing.
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:01 am Post subject: |
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There's no way you can tell who'd win.
The outcome of a battle relies on more factors than just strength and agility. There's also mental attitude, outside influence, and pure dumb luck that you have to take into account.
Plus, it depends on when they meet and at what levels, does Mega have all of his Unisons or just some? Is Proto packing his Style Change or not?
There are just way too many factors to try and decide something like this. _________________
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BlackFireDragonK Guest
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:13 am Post subject: |
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i'm going to get hanged for my bad grammer but....i don't care HAHAHA
The problem is that Rockman is the main character. Main characters don't lose and are supposed to almost always beat their rivals. ie. Kaiba and Yami, Goku and ...everyone, Inuyasha and Sesshomaru (Inu is nothing without Tetsuiga though) ect. When Rockman's about to lose he always pulls out some kind of new thing or does a sappy "everone is counting on me" thing. :grr:
From what i can see, the power levels aren't very consistent and most of the time it's either you're stronger or weaker. ie. Dark Loid kick Rockman's butt -> Rockman crossfuses or does a soul unison -> Rockman kicks Dark Loid's butt. So you can't really expect Soul Unison to do everything for him. cross fusion also seems to be either equal to or stronger than soul unison and Dark Blues beat cross fusion rockman in less than 30 seconds.
Blues has more expertise, skill, and seems to be more efficient while Enzan is precise, quick, and one of the best netbattlers as well as a prodigy. On the other hand, Rockman has friendhsip (as usual), soul unison while Netto has a larger variety of chips and is a very good netbattler also they both have the one that seems to win a lot of battles for them. Dumb luck. -_-;
Even if one of them wins, they will have a rematch sooner or later and they will keep growing stronger so there will never really be a clear cut victor unless Blues is deleted and cut out forever (Rockman can't be cut out - main charachter >_<).
I still think Blues will win though. ^_^ |
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Suraa.Exe Net Agent
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 201 Location: La La Lion
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:15 am Post subject: |
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I think Rockman would win because he has so many hidden powers, he could fight Blues normally and be about to lose and then use full synchro or something and then Blues would be off guard and lose! _________________ You're an honest man, that's good. Now let me take attendance so I can find out who the hell you are! -My Health Teacher
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Gundamfan Net Agent
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 280
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Rockman but not the Lan's brother Rockman I mean DS Rockman!! >:D |
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Mist Net Agent
Age: 33 Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 241 Location: Nowheresville
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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I say it's fair game. Rockman has Style Changes and Soul Unisions, and Blues "kicks ass" -_-;
However, there is one thing that very few people take into account: WRITERS. They can make it so either one wins, and by using interesting methods, too. It all depends on the situation really.
But, writers aside, I'd still say it's fair game. You never know, Blues could be losing, Enzan pulls off a great chip combo, bam; we have a winner. *shrug* I'm indifferent on the matter. I also agree with you, Plantman. These topics generally become a fight between fandoms, not logic. Just my two bits.
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Trowaessy Net Savior
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 179 Location: Here, and if not, then elsewhere.
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hm...I'm thinking it's one of those 50/50 things.
Sure Blues has more experience and stuff, and Rock has all these souls he can use, but hey, one of them might screw up due to bad luck or something. Stuff happens.
Anime wise, I'd say they're even. Game wise, Rock definately has to win or else I'd get a game over T_T |
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Enzan_Blues_FanGirl Darkloid
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 538 Location: Sitting on Dark Blues
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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that's funny! In the game you have to win... And I also agree with PlantMan as well.. If your a Blues Fna (Me) You'll vote for Blues. If you like RockMan :grr: Then you'll vote for RockMan.. It's a 50/50 chance of who wins... :eyes: But hey.... Bad Luck can happen... Blues could be interrupted with a business thing and RockMan could be with a friend in trouble... _________________
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