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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I have Nebilim but I haven't defeated [spoil:b348294c0c]Abyssion[/spoil:b348294c0c] yet so it's not that powerful.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrossFusionStarman wrote:
Yeah, I have Nebilim but I haven't defeated [spoil:dcf0fc858f]Abyssion[/spoil:dcf0fc858f] yet so it's not that powerful.


Ah, right. Then beat him XD! He's not as bad as the PS2 version of him. In the PS2 version he is immune to all-divide o.o;.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lido Azn Girl wrote:
I've never battle Maxwell before, but I heard that's he's the strongest boss in the game. Why does it matter if Maxwell is worth getting? It's always fun to take on new challenges =D!

Not really...[spoil:1073946528]Abyssion[/spoil:1073946528] is much harder =P.
I agree, but I think the absolute hardest would have to be a toss-up between [spoil:1073946528]Abyssion[/spoil:1073946528] and [spoil:1073946528]Living Armor[/spoil:1073946528] (both of whom are optional bosses).

On another note, if you're starting a subsequent playthrough, GET THE COMBOS UPGRADE! I cannot stress how awesome this upgrade is, if only for its unadvertised effects. The game only tells you that it sets your EXP gains to 1 but greatly increases your Combo Bonus (10x for normal battles, or 5x for bosses or large monsters like the Earth Temple Dragon). What it doesn't tell you is that Combos is also the only thing that removes the overlevel penalty. Normally, being overleveled deducts a percentage of your EXP gains (up to half), but with Combos, you'll still be gaining 5-digit EXP numbers from bosses. (Granted, there is still the side effect of being TOO overleveled that everything dies before you can get a good combo on it, and you start out slow because it's hard to get as much as a 10 combo early on. But just the ridiculous EXP numbers you'll get from bosses alone is enough to counter that.)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why you should get the x10 EXP and play on mania mode. It's fun and even if you are over-leveled, enemies still take a while to kill =P.

Speaking of combos

That's a pic some one made of their combos. It's from a site that attempts crazy awesome stuff in video games. Like beating [spoil:5fb9aaa46b]Abyssion[/spoil:5fb9aaa46b] on Mania mode with a level 6 Collette XD. They have a lot of Symphonia stuff and other Tales games if any one is interested. I dunno if it would be advertising to post it here, but search for "Holystar" on Google. It should be the first one. The videos they have there are really cool =P.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poochy.EXE wrote:
Master Swordsman Zero wrote:
Lido Azn Girl wrote:
I've never battle Maxwell before, but I heard that's he's the strongest boss in the game. Why does it matter if Maxwell is worth getting? It's always fun to take on new challenges =D!

Not really...[spoil:b6572675ec]Abyssion[/spoil:b6572675ec] is much harder =P.
I agree, but I think the absolute hardest would have to be a toss-up between [spoil:b6572675ec]Abyssion[/spoil:b6572675ec] and [spoil:b6572675ec]Living Armor[/spoil:b6572675ec] (both of whom are optional bosses)


I actually didn't have a lot of trouble with Living Armor. And yes, I did get the combo upgrade. Fun! Even more fun is getting Indignation and [spoil:b6572675ec]Meteor Swarm[/spoil:b6572675ec] with Genis. That was awesome. Even better was the Indignant Judgement technique. I can't think of one enemy or boss who hasn't been killed/severely damged by it, except for [spoil:b6572675ec]Abyssion[/spoil:b6572675ec] or Maxwell since I haven't fought them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sorely wish I could finish the game... got to the second disc. Literally. It said "Put in the second disc" and I didn't have it. I was borrowing the game ^^;;

My party consisted of Genis, Lloyd, Sheena, and Raine, until the last part before the end of the disc where I realized that in battles, Kratos really is better... Can't remember my party for that part.

But yes. Very fun game. Very very fun.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[spoil:095ca8ff27]Abyssion[/spoil:095ca8ff27] is such a pain.... I didnt really find [spoil:095ca8ff27]Living armor [/spoil:095ca8ff27]that hard .... But i hated [spoil:095ca8ff27]Abyssion[/spoil:095ca8ff27], I had no all divides so it wasnt an Easy fight

And this might be just me...... But did anyone feel sorry for [spoil:095ca8ff27]Mithos [/spoil:095ca8ff27]at the end of the game
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, he's just a spoiled brat =\. He just wanted to create a world for himself and his sister, he's no better than any other game villian. I kicked his ass with no remorse, the same way I kicked Miktran's, Shizel's, and Dhaos' Wink.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I felt no sorrow for [spoil:c6a59a00c2]Mithos[/spoil:c6a59a00c2] whatsoever. He's stupid. If someone says [spoil:c6a59a00c2]they want to see a world free from discrimination, then that doesn't mean you create an age of lifeless beings.[/spoil:c6a59a00c2] Hated his guts, finished him off with Kratos's Judgement Spell with great satisfaction. I do, however, feel very sorry for Sheena. That must suck, [spoil:c6a59a00c2]having killed a lot of people in your village on accident and becoming the biggest outcast ever.[/spoil:c6a59a00c2] [spoil:c6a59a00c2]Plus, she loses her best friend to Volt.[/spoil:c6a59a00c2] Oh, and I just did this yesterday: try going to Altamira with everybody in the beach costumes and talking to people.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess i am just wierd, Meh, Umm i am having trouble getting some grade.... have any tips, i am trying to get all the options in the Grade shop at the begining new game plus
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, don't get EVERYTHING in the Grade Shop. A: That'll take you forever, and B: Some of the stuff in there is absolutely useless. Techs, for example. Even if you carry over your learned techs, you still wouldn't have the TP to use them right away. (Probably the only real use for the Techs carryover is to have Raine's Ray early on for Unison Attacks, which in turn isn't that useful in itself unless you have the Combos upgrade.) Or Gald. If you play the game right, you should start getting ridiculous amounts of Gald as soon as you depart from Palmacosta for the first time, and having extra Gald for the first 3 hours or so isn't worth the 1000 Grade price tag.

As for getting Grade, well, the overlevel penalty on Grade hardly counters the bonuses you get for Full MP and a quick finish. So set everyone to Do Not Use for techs/magic, rest/heal yourself, and head back to the area between Iselia and Triet. If you want to get REALLY fast Grade at the expense of some Gald, buy Dark Bottles and 20 of each item for any HP-healing recipe of your choice, as you get a Grade bonus for each character of the 4 in the battle that ends with full HP. You should be getting around 1.2-1.5 Grade per battle, or 2.7-3.0 if you're on a subsequent playthrough with the Grade upgrade.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome explanation Poochy =P. Another useless thing to get (in my opinion) is the 30 item thing. I have never once used all 20 items in one battle, I find spending grade on 30 items is pointless. A good thing to choose is extra grade earned per battle, for obvious reasons. Oh, and when you get to a higher level on your second playthrough, turn Mania mode on and go to the lower level places. You can get a lot of grade that way, since Mania mode allows you to get more Grade per battle (Don't quote me on this, I'm comparing it to how the other Tales games are >.>... Of course, in one of those games I can get up to 60 grade from one boss battle in normal <.<).

By the way, I also found Living Armor to be easier than [spoil:72895e5a89]Abyssion[/spoil:72895e5a89].

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know its pretty much useless and stupid to get everything, But i am bored so i decided to try, i know it will probably take a while but still its the summer and i have the time
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play the game and had some trouble defeating the guardians guarding the seal. I had to try 5 times to beat the guardian guarding the water seal. I guess I have to train more I am currently on LV. 15 - 16.
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