Reasons why we never get to see navis' hair/eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't this about why we never see navi's hair or eyes?

Well you DO see Blues's hair. And Roll's too - she has Yuna hair. But as for why Navi's never take off their helmets...

Because they're not people? Seriously I don't think navis were programmed to be able to do such a thing. There were the clothes in certain episodes, but those really just went on over the armor, did they not? I don't think navis are supposed to have anything under the armor. It's phun to draw though. And maybe, with all this recent fascination in destroying the barrier between computer programs and human beings in the anime, we'll see something like that in the future. But right now, I just think that Navis are programmed without anything beneath their armor/spandex, however humanlike they may be in appearence..
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the human shaped navis can take their helmets off atleast...

but then, why would they want to?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Equivelent Exchange. Humans get to be navis, so navis should get to be humans. Razz At least it would give the NAVIS something interesting to do... <.<

edit: ...I spelled exchange wrong...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pitchums wrote:
Equivelent Exhange. Humans get to be navis, so navis should get to be humans. Razz At least it would give the NAVIS something interesting to do... <.<


lol. you got that form FMA "Equivelent Exhange"

i think that the helmets are part of the navi them self eg rocks helmet has the crest on the side and when netto plugs in the helemet lights up

so the helemts are something like an link to the PET

anyways thats what i think
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On the topic of Saito's eyes. My friend and I were talking about this in Science a while back. Bother Dr. and Mrs. Hikari have brown eyes, as dose Netto. So how did Saito end up with green eyes...? O_o
Okay, quick science lecture: Brown eyes are a dominant trait. A person with brown eyes can be heterozygous for eye color, meaning they display a dominant trait (brown eyes in this case) and are a "carrier" of another (possibly green eyes). It's quite possible that both Hikaris are heterozygous for eye color, with one chromosome dictating brown eyes (dominant trait) and the other eye color gene dictating green eyes (recessive trait), and Saito got the 25% chance of getting the recessive gene from both parents and thus having the recessive trait.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poochy.EXE wrote:
Okay, quick science lecture: Brown eyes are a dominant trait. A person with brown eyes can be heterozygous for eye color, meaning they display a dominant trait (brown eyes in this case) and are a "carrier" of another (possibly green eyes). It's quite possible that both Hikaris are heterozygous for eye color, with one chromosome dictating brown eyes (dominant trait) and the other eye color gene dictating green eyes (recessive trait), and Saito got the 25% chance of getting the recessive gene from both parents and thus having the recessive trait.


Aren't they identical, though? Except for that .001%, but I thought that they had a program that got rid of that difference. Or something.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quatre Winner wrote:
Aren't they identical, though? Except for that .001%, but I thought that they had a program that got rid of that difference. Or something.
I said, there's a possibility. There's no official word that they're identical twins, and we don't know for sure whether or not they're identical.

[Edit: Err, sorry, didn't notice this thread almost a week old...]
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, on the general topic of why we are not able to see navis' hair, I think it's good in a way. Because no one knows what their hair looks like, we are able to make up what we believe the hair looks like. For example, two people decide to draw Elecman without his helmet. One person draws his hair as spikey and blond, while the other one draws it as soft and black. Both of them were free to draw it they way they wanted because it hasn't been officially confirmed what his hair looks like. Personally, I like not being able to see navis hair, lets me imagine it for myself.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why dont they remove their Helmets? Simple, Thats because THEY HAVE NO HAIR!

doesnyone own a Rockman.exe Model? when you remove the Helmet, you see that he only has a face, the rest of his head is Light blue metal.

Same thing with X and Zero..they had no hair, Zero's Hair was only an attachment from the back of his head BTW.

Same thing with Blues, his Hair may verywell be an attachment.

and the 4 Spiky Hairs and not Hair, theyre just spikes. Same thing with Roll, Thats not Hair, its plastic hair.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then, why don't we see navi's pulling they're hair out? There is no real proof of that. Also, going by action figures isn't accurate. Action figures are known for only giving an external view. In other words, if I took off Optimus Primes Blue and white paint, woul he be red? No, he wouldn't. Also, just because Rolls hair looks plastic doesn't mean it is.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well :/ , Im telling you! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might've been too late when I say this, but when I saw helmetless Rockman, I flipped. And abnormal twitching doesn't even BEGIN to cover what I think the navis would look like without helmets. Trust me, break into my mind, and you'll never wanna be there again!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This a Tachyon moment.

Recessive alleles don't get switched off in the presence of a dominant alleles, as they try to teach you in science class. Recessive alleles still work, but are crippled in their ability to code for certain proteins to a greater or lesser extent.

Let's look at the wrinkled vs smooth peas. They get wrinkled when an enzyme designed to convert sugar to starch has the wrong structure (due to an incorrect amino acid sequence) and is thus crippled. Sugar can't maintain a structure the way starch can, and it gets used more readily, so you have a smaller amount of a weaker material. Thus, the peas get wrinkled. If one fully functional gene is present, however, the pea plant produces less working enzyme, but just enough to make enough starch to keep the peas from getting wrinkled.

What does this have to do with eyes? Remember the minute differences in the genomes of Netto and Saito that Yuuichirou made? It would make sense to cripple a non-vital pair of genes rather than something that could screw everything up. Crippling the genes for brown eye color without totally eliminating their function would produce green (blue is the lack of pigment).

Why didn't Rockman's eyes turn brown after Yuuichirou undid the changes? Perhaps when Rockman was first created, the genes were interpreted and his general appearance was described in a Navi-compatible code. No point in doing that process all over again, especially when [spoil:d57526c937]Wily was about to release the Dream Virus[/spoil:d57526c937].

Rockman's black hair turning brown? How do you know those black spikes weren't really just a part of the helment and nothing more? It's hair in the anime, but the anime and games aren't canon to each other.

This has been a Tachyon moment.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, what? I'm sorry but could you dumb that down a little because all I understood was the part with Rockman's hair possibly being part of the helmet. I'm so stupid! D'oh! -_-;
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuu had to make a .001% difference between Netto and Saito, so he changed Saito's eye color genes so they'd be green and not brown like Netto's. Something along those lines? <_<

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zodiac wrote:
Plantman wrote:
Also... [spoil:debeaf05f2]You get to see Rockman's hair on EXE5's ending.[/spoil:debeaf05f2]
[spoil:debeaf05f2]Or, to be more specific, you get to see Saito, Rockman's soul. It's not that there's no helmet; there's no armor at all.[/spoil:debeaf05f2]


[spoil:debeaf05f2] Man, he don't have any Cholthes ethier![/spoil:debeaf05f2]
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhhh, on the other hand, I think they dont show behind shades or helmets is because the artists are lazy and are so used to drawing with helmets.

Okay, that was meant to be a joke. >_<

Mnn. Question here. Has anyone else in the Hikari family gotten green eyes? Because sometimes some traits skip generations. My friend and her sister have red hair, but her mom has blonde hair. [My friend's grandma has red hair. So. Uhm. -_-; ]
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm. Interesting, but I must agree with the equivalent exchange. The navis should get to be human now and then. A godd reason why they do wear helemts is in Planty-dono's comic. Check it out (the links in Planty's sig).
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my opinion we never see a navis hair is because they have not yet/cannot be changed, navis armour can be changed eg glide and megaman have both worn tuxedos if i remember rightly and roll a kimino and wedding dress, if they can change helmets to bandanas or headphones or somthing along the lines of that we probably could.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe it's kinda like the way they tell eachother apart, I mean if they could change they could all look alike!
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