| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Bug-Boy
Net Battler
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 53
Location: On my bed most probably or eating food
|
 Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:46 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| YaminoMiko wrote: | | Rumors been going around that BHK is part of the Organization, but that's just plain stupid. |
It's not stupid, it's true :] .....BHK is the Duel Wielding Unknown(DWU), who is part of the Organization, in Deep Dive
Also I believe that the BHK is the light side of Sora's heart as he has mainly appeared in Twilight Town which is a place from the other side of Sora's heart's memories which is transformed into a World Card. I put 2 and 2 together and tada. A theory is born.
Also I think that BHK and Sora are playable, but sometime late in the game they join up and it turns to one story(sort of like in Sonic Adventure 2) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Quatre Winner
I Beat the 8 Robot Masters
Age: 37
Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 162
Location: Wandering the universes in search of a good story to write
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:35 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Bug-Boy wrote: | | Also I think that BHK and Sora are playable, but sometime late in the game they join up and it turns to one story(sort of like in Sonic Adventure 2) |
Think when that happens we'll get to choose who we can play? Or will we be stuck as Sora?
BHK could very well be the light part of Sora. He dresses in white, if you'll recall, and Sora dresses in black. The theory is sound.
Kyara sounds like a good name... reminds me of a feline, though. Wasn't that Simba's daughter in Lion King II?
_________________
Avatar made by me in paint. Whoo
Phantom Fans: Where shunned fans gather
I blame Sol u.u |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YaminoMiko
Rabid Roxas Fan
Age: 33
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 701
Location: California
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quatre Winner wrote: | | Bug-Boy wrote: | | Also I think that BHK and Sora are playable, but sometime late in the game they join up and it turns to one story(sort of like in Sonic Adventure 2) |
Think when that happens we'll get to choose who we can play? Or will we be stuck as Sora?
BHK could very well be the light part of Sora. He dresses in white, if you'll recall, and Sora dresses in black. The theory is sound.
Kyara sounds like a good name... reminds me of a feline, though. Wasn't that Simba's daughter in Lion King II? |
BHK dresses in both black and white, think he's like a "shell" of Sora.
I think you can swap, first you play as Sora and then during the game it automaticlly switches to BHK. That's just my guess though.
_________________
I wanna sleep, but I don't wanna sleep at the same time. @_@.
Repetition(RnREXE) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hobbit_hunter
Net Agent
Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 284
Location: Good Ol' USA
|
| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| YaminoMiko wrote: | | Quatre Winner wrote: | | Bug-Boy wrote: | | Also I think that BHK and Sora are playable, but sometime late in the game they join up and it turns to one story(sort of like in Sonic Adventure 2) |
Think when that happens we'll get to choose who we can play? Or will we be stuck as Sora?
BHK could very well be the light part of Sora. He dresses in white, if you'll recall, and Sora dresses in black. The theory is sound.
Kyara sounds like a good name... reminds me of a feline, though. Wasn't that Simba's daughter in Lion King II? |
BHK dresses in both black and white, think he's like a "shell" of Sora.
I think you can swap, first you play as Sora and then during the game it automaticlly switches to BHK. That's just my guess though. |
I agree. You can tell from BHK's design that he is deffinatly not the darker side of Sora. Tetsuya Nomura said himself that Sora's darker design plays a roll into his character, and the same for BHK. My guess, is that since BHK is the shell of Sora he is neither light nor dark, going on the path of Twilight with Riku and Mickey.
The Unknown in Final Mix explained that he was a Nobody, a shell. Same can be said for BHK...and all we really know of him is that he is looking for Sora and trying to protect him (makes sense, protect thine heart!). And Namine is the shell of Kairi if I am believed to be right....I never did finish COM.
_________________
icon journal
Raika > You |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YaminoMiko
Rabid Roxas Fan
Age: 33
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 701
Location: California
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| hobbit_hunter wrote: | | YaminoMiko wrote: | | Quatre Winner wrote: | | Bug-Boy wrote: | | Also I think that BHK and Sora are playable, but sometime late in the game they join up and it turns to one story(sort of like in Sonic Adventure 2) |
Think when that happens we'll get to choose who we can play? Or will we be stuck as Sora?
BHK could very well be the light part of Sora. He dresses in white, if you'll recall, and Sora dresses in black. The theory is sound.
Kyara sounds like a good name... reminds me of a feline, though. Wasn't that Simba's daughter in Lion King II? |
BHK dresses in both black and white, think he's like a "shell" of Sora.
I think you can swap, first you play as Sora and then during the game it automaticlly switches to BHK. That's just my guess though. |
My guess, is that since BHK is the shell of Sora he is neither light nor dark, going on the path of Twilight with Riku and Mickey.
|
Well I think it's kind of obvious BHK is going to the path of Twilight since he weilds two keyblades that looks like the Oathkeeper and Oblivion(Oathkeeper= light, Oblivion=dark). Opposite forces. He's neither good or evil.
_________________
I wanna sleep, but I don't wanna sleep at the same time. @_@.
Repetition(RnREXE) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hobbit_hunter
Net Agent
Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 284
Location: Good Ol' USA
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
There is that point as well about the keyblades Oblivion and Oathkeeper (which were my favorites >><<).
Steam Boat Willy news from Kingdom Hearts Insider:
http://www.khinsider.com/news2/headlines/126431399.shtml
From the looks of it, it seems like Sora-tachi gets chibi'd! Also, they are in all Black and White which is interesting  . Finally, is that Sora's KH1 outfit I see? :O
_________________
icon journal
Raika > You |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tenryujin
Net Savior
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 129
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:39 am Post subject: |
|
|
I prefer the Ultima Weapon keychain myself. Usefulness aside, it looked the coolest to me.
This game just keeps on getting better and better! Now I'm especially looking forward to the Steamboat Willie world. I think the reason why Sora's in his KH1 outfit is because the world is supposed to be somewhat representative of beginnings--Goofy, Donald, Mickey and Pete all look as how they first appeared in their respective cartoons.
Also, on the BHK being Sora's Nobody--I'm going to go out on a limb here and refute it. You need a heart to wield a Keyblade, yes? So him being a shell is out the window, I think. Namine and the Enigmatic Man are still in the air as possibly being Kairi's and Riku's Nobodies, though.
_________________
Hmm... Defenestration is such a fun word. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hobbit_hunter
Net Agent
Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 284
Location: Good Ol' USA
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Tenryujin wrote: | I prefer the Ultima Weapon keychain myself. Usefulness aside, it looked the coolest to me.
This game just keeps on getting better and better! Now I'm especially looking forward to the Steamboat Willie world. I think the reason why Sora's in his KH1 outfit is because the world is supposed to be somewhat representative of beginnings--Goofy, Donald, Mickey and Pete all look as how they first appeared in their respective cartoons.
Also, on the BHK being Sora's Nobody--I'm going to go out on a limb here and refute it. You need a heart to wield a Keyblade, yes? So him being a shell is out the window, I think. Namine and the Enigmatic Man are still in the air as possibly being Kairi's and Riku's Nobodies, though. |
I still don't recall Riku ever loosing his heart. As I remember a whole bunch of people agreed the Enigmatic Man (who was DiZ, right?) was actually the shell of Ansem since he lost his heart way back when.
As for the shell thing, you have a point. If I remember right Kairi wasnt able to move without her heart, yet the shells can. The shells must have some remaining part of the heart to move period. ...or Sora just breaks the laws of everything 
Never got the Ultimate keyblade >>'
Also your point on SBW sounds good :D I havent seen that cartoon in so long >>;
_________________
icon journal
Raika > You |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Blast.EXE
Net Agent
Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Posts: 273
Location: England
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
^ I agree remember KH 1 when Sora got his keyblade back because at that moment his heart was stronger than Riku's.
BHK must have a heart he wields 2 keyblades and the blindfolded unknown uses BHK's oblivion blade.
I think BHK has a connection with Riku and Kairi.
Oathkeeper=Kairi
Oblivion=Riku
Anyone agree.
_________________
[CENTER]~[URL="http://s15.invisionfree.com/Spriting_Haven"]Come to Spriting Haven[/URL]~[/CENTER] |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YaminoMiko
Rabid Roxas Fan
Age: 33
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 701
Location: California
|
| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I agree with you Rockman.EXE! In truth nobody knows who BHK really is, all of us are just making assumptions. Oathkeeper and Oblivion are my favorite keyblades too. ^.^
I never got the Ultima too. -.-;
Imagine they actually showed a chibi BHK too. I would probably LMAO.
_________________
I wanna sleep, but I don't wanna sleep at the same time. @_@.
Repetition(RnREXE)
Last edited by YaminoMiko on Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:37 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tenryujin
Net Savior
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 129
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The Enigmatic Man and DiZ are two different people (shells, Nobodies, whichever); the Enigmatic Man appears to be strongly suggested as the Superior of the XIII Order (number 1); DiZ is working against the Order and is generally agreed on to be the shell of Ansem.
Well, if Riku didn't lose his heart, then just Namine, then.
Kairi not being able to move could possibly stem from her being a Princess of Heart or that her heart was in Sora's. The shells, I guess, are still sentient and mobile because their hearts were just taken out of them by conventional means and not trapped in someone else's body. Or something. I dunno... Or maybe Keyblade Masters have special privileges. :]
Waitaminute...how DID Kairi's heart end up in Sora? Gah...
Definitely agreeing with Blast.exe on the Oblivion and Oathkeeper. I've read that at one point the Oblivion was supposed to be called 'Riku's Blade'. Also, I do believe the Blindfolded Unknown is Riku.
_________________
Hmm... Defenestration is such a fun word. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Quatre Winner
I Beat the 8 Robot Masters
Age: 37
Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 162
Location: Wandering the universes in search of a good story to write
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I don't think Steamboat Willie was the first cartoon to start Mickey. It was just the very first cartoon to have sound.
End random animation history lesson. I paid attention in Fine Arts Survey <.< >.>
*coughs*
I can't wait to see Sora in the Steamboat Willie world. That'll be fun!
*wonders if she should use the spoiler tags for what she's gonna say*
Riku chose the path of twilight at the end of Chain of Memories. What does that mean? Will he wield darkness on the side of light?
_________________
Avatar made by me in paint. Whoo
Phantom Fans: Where shunned fans gather
I blame Sol u.u |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YaminoMiko
Rabid Roxas Fan
Age: 33
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 701
Location: California
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Just to clear things, Riku never lost his heart, he was just possessed by Ansem.( I really hate the guy)
[spoil:18a511b7f4]at the end of chain of memories he said he walk the path of twilight to dawn.[/spoil:18a511b7f4] In my opinion, I say yes, he wields the darkness on the side of the light.
_________________
I wanna sleep, but I don't wanna sleep at the same time. @_@.
Repetition(RnREXE) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hobbit_hunter
Net Agent
Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 284
Location: Good Ol' USA
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
There is already a spoiler warning so we dont need to tag things ^^''''
Anyways, path of Twilight is basically neither light or dark >>; Wheee.
Oathkeeper is from Kairi but there wasnt a plot thing of Riku with Oblivion, you just got that in a chest in Hollow Bastion, whoooo~!
_________________
icon journal
Raika > You |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YaminoMiko
Rabid Roxas Fan
Age: 33
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 701
Location: California
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
^.^; oh yea... sry about that.
_________________
I wanna sleep, but I don't wanna sleep at the same time. @_@.
Repetition(RnREXE) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Nettorockman
Net Battler
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Posts: 55
|
| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quatre Winner wrote: | I don't think Steamboat Willie was the first cartoon to start Mickey. It was just the very first cartoon to have sound.
|
I'm kinda sure that it was the first cartoon to star Mickey. And there are a few scans of Sora in Steamboat Willie world at kh2.co.uk. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hobbit_hunter
Net Agent
Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 284
Location: Good Ol' USA
|
| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:22 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Nettorockman wrote: | | Quatre Winner wrote: | I don't think Steamboat Willie was the first cartoon to start Mickey. It was just the very first cartoon to have sound.
|
I'm kinda sure that it was the first cartoon to star Mickey. And there are a few scans of Sora in Steamboat Willie world at kh2.co.uk. |
Aye that is the first Mickey cartoon
_________________
icon journal
Raika > You |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Quatre Winner
I Beat the 8 Robot Masters
Age: 37
Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 162
Location: Wandering the universes in search of a good story to write
|
| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:18 am Post subject: |
|
|
| hobbit_hunter wrote: | | Nettorockman wrote: | | Quatre Winner wrote: | I don't think Steamboat Willie was the first cartoon to start Mickey. It was just the very first cartoon to have sound.
|
I'm kinda sure that it was the first cartoon to star Mickey. And there are a few scans of Sora in Steamboat Willie world at kh2.co.uk. |
Aye that is the first Mickey cartoon |
Then my FIne Arts Survey teacher is teaching wrong... I distinctly remember him saying that Mickey was in another cartoon beforehand. Or I'm remembering wrong. Time to dig up the old notes...
_________________
Avatar made by me in paint. Whoo
Phantom Fans: Where shunned fans gather
I blame Sol u.u |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tenryujin
Net Savior
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 129
|
| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
Actually, Quatre Winner is correct, though the official Disney site begs to differ. Mickey, Minnie, and Pete all appeared in cartoons prior to Steamboat Willie. Here's the Wikipedia article on Mickey Mouse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse
_________________
Hmm... Defenestration is such a fun word. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hobbit_hunter
Net Agent
Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 284
Location: Good Ol' USA
|
| Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
Ah well we all know how true to the word Disney is >>;
More updates from khinsider.com:
http://www.khinsider.com/images/vjump_october_full_1.jpg
Axel pays a visit to Twilight Town (as seen from the trailers with BHK fighting him), also it looks like BHK and his friends are going to get into trouble. Along with that, Squall/Leon and Cloud return in KHII, and for some reason Cloud wears his FF7AC outfit...I wonder if he keeps the golden hand? ._.
The rest of the article shows more information about Steam Boat Willie:
http://www.khinsider.com/news2/headlines/126645113.shtml
_________________
icon journal
Raika > You |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
