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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Am I the only one who sees parallels between Greiga/Faltzer and Groudon/Kyougre of Pokemon? Think about it; both pairs are gigantic beasts of legends, who wrecked havoc in the past before dissapearing. Both pairs are bitter rivals who mostly cause their destruction by fighting with each other. One is a spikey, ground based monster while the other flies.

They're probably both based on some old japanese folktale, in which case the means to subdue Greiga and Faltzer may be similar to the method of subdueing Groudon and Kyougre (ie, a magical item that is linked to the beast that calms it).

Of course, this is all purely conjecture at the moment, but it's interesting to think about, eh?

Hmmm, iiinteresting.
Magical object = baby?
Hah, I don't think a crying baby is very calming, but...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RikkusRukkus wrote:
I'm a bit dissapointed that the first Beast Out transformation is going to be shown in the first episode. Baby-thing, the two beasts, Beast Out, it's going to be a month's week of episodes crammed into one episode. D:
Not a bad thing per sé, as long as we don't get a whole lot of fillers.


The first episode of Stream didn't have everything that was shown in the preview. Baby-thing, Greiga, and Faltzer will probably appear in the first episode, though.

I'm tired of everyone comparing the Greiga and Faltzer to Groudon and Kyougre. Pokemon didn't invent this kind of scenario. It's similar but not the same, geez.

Beast seems like it's going to be more Navi-centric. <3
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...

The Beast preview shows a lot of things all by the same art director. However, the Beast Out transformation is a silhouette (so you can't determine who drew it), and the two beasts fighting are 3-D animated (thus, no art director)... so it's possible those two scenes are from later episodes.

However, everything else in the preview (including the baby) all share the same art director (which is obvious, considering his/her distinct art style).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does the whole art director thing work, anyway? Does each art director have their own little group that abides by their style, or do they just all share one group of animators and tell them to use their style?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not completely sure, though I've always assumed the former. All I know is that the art director seems to determine the art style.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hope rock does his rendition of a super saiyan in beast.. remember the exe 6 commercial? i hope he transforms like that in the game :D he looks like a saiyan :D
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see Forte have a good role in this one.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you think megaman will be able to combine both beast double soul like half Faltzer and half Greiga ? and who suppose to be the enemy they are fightning this season
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one thing is for sure. its going to be freakin' big. at least in the game. its always big.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the baby is a big key item... like, someone sent it to Rockman because they knew he would keep it safe, and the whole point of the series is to keep it protected until the right moment...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know....MAYBE the baby is his mom's navi. lol.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soala wrote:
I'm tired of everyone comparing the Greiga and Faltzer to Groudon and Kyougre. Pokemon didn't invent this kind of scenario. It's similar but not the same, geez.


Do you see anyone crediting Pokemon with the scenario? Or accusing Capcom of stealing the idea? All we're saying is that there are some interesting similarities between the the two pairs. It's likely that both Game Freak and Capcom are drawing upon the same source for that particular idea. (like perhaps, as I suggested, a japanese folktale. Game companies, especially Game Freak, have been known to take japanese folklore and legends and adapt them to their games.

As for who the new enemy, my money's on Wily. In [spoil:e359dd81dd] both the game and[/spoil:e359dd81dd] the anime, he worked to stop Regal's plans, but for what purpose? A change of heart, maybe? Not bloodly likely, says I. I'm thinking he wanted to make sure Regal didn't succeed before his (Wily's) own plans came to fruition. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the villain (whether or not it's Wily) is behind Greiga and Faltzer's reawakening, and that said villain is looking to benefit off of the Beasts in some way or another.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe that baby is something like Culumon from Digimon Tamers.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HeatShadow wrote:
Soala wrote:
I'm tired of everyone comparing the Greiga and Faltzer to Groudon and Kyougre. Pokemon didn't invent this kind of scenario. It's similar but not the same, geez.


Do you see anyone crediting Pokemon with the scenario? Or accusing Capcom of stealing the idea?


It may not be as apparent in REO as it is in other places. Lot's of people rave on and on about how the scenario with Greiga and Faltzer is a carbon copy of what Pokemon did with Groudon and Kyougre.

Also, there are others who do act like Pokemon did invent many of the things EXE does, like on GameFAQs and other Rockman-based websites.

I'm letting people on the internet get to me, oh no.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HeatShadow wrote:
Soala wrote:
I'm tired of everyone comparing the Greiga and Faltzer to Groudon and Kyougre. Pokemon didn't invent this kind of scenario. It's similar but not the same, geez.


Do you see anyone crediting Pokemon with the scenario? Or accusing Capcom of stealing the idea? All we're saying is that there are some interesting similarities between the the two pairs. It's likely that both Game Freak and Capcom are drawing upon the same source for that particular idea. (like perhaps, as I suggested, a japanese folktale. Game companies, especially Game Freak, have been known to take japanese folklore and legends and adapt them to their games.

As for who the new enemy, my money's on Wily. In [spoil:e02b73e721] both the game and[/spoil:e02b73e721] the anime, he worked to stop Regal's plans, but for what purpose? A change of heart, maybe? Not bloodly likely, says I. I'm thinking he wanted to make sure Regal didn't succeed before his (Wily's) own plans came to fruition. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the villain (whether or not it's Wily) is behind Greiga and Faltzer's reawakening, and that said villain is looking to benefit off of the Beasts in some way or another.


According to PMM, the new game trailer says " A new enemy is behind all this".
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FINALLY. I'm getting sick of only fighting WWW andNebula. It's about time they used a new enemy(s).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey! I just thought about this... :O

I know for sure that CrossFusion will still occur in Beast (hopefully not overshadowing Net Battles), but I was wondering... who thinks there will be a V3 R-Rock/Blues and some of the other CFs (maybe R-Roll and R-Search) will have V2 form?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wondered the same... if they did V3's, they'd have 13 new Cross Fusion designs to come up with, though. (Assuming the Cross Fusion members appear ever again, including Barrel...)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't wait for RockMan to acquire ElecSoul.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is that Im 60% sure that the baby is somekind of a key for Beast. He does have Rockmans eyes and Rolls eyes =).

Cant wait for Beast :D ( Im not the only one).
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