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| Plantman wrote: | | Is not that is unbelievable, is just that with ONE episode left, a battle against a character of Duo's condition cannot fit one episode without being an equaly rushed battle that would have still left people complaining for being 'short'. Look back to Life Virus in EXE's finale. |
Yes, but that's a result of poor planning. With the fillers throughout this series, wouldn't you think that it wouldn't have been difficult to at least have two or three more episodes ready instead of making those? I didn't get a real sense of closure with this episode. It just happened at random. Sure, the navis and the humans were able to touch each other, but is that really worth watching through the entire series? That one scene was good for some fans, but I would have much rather had a better ending. They were building up to a climax point, but there was nothing exciting about it.
The Life Virus just completely got thrown away. Gospel was deleted in about a minute or so, after rampaging around. The writers really need to find a way to encorporate these villains into the show better. They haven't done anything impressive with them at all.
| Plantman wrote: | | a) Cross Fusion cannot be expected to die right away. |
That's true, but that doesn't mean they have to use it every single episode. It got really boring.
| Plantman wrote: | | b) I sincerely doubt the anime was aiming for anything but an 'emotional ending' rather than for an action ending. And that doesn't make it a 'bad', just one that doesn't fit all tastes. |
It's not 'bad', but it wasn't planned well for an emotional ending. I know they could have done better.
| Plantman wrote: | | c) People needs to stop saying the ending was 'disappointing' but use instead the 'it disappointed ME'. Because some of us happened to enjoy the ending. |
Isn't it usually obvious what we mean? Everyone has a different opinion on something, and you don't have to agree with it. I think it was disappointing, and so did many others. Therefore, I didn't just say 'me', because I wasn't alone in my thoughts. |
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RLinksoul
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Whao...it just hit me, Numberman is the only BN5 Navi who hasn't cross fused...you guys are right, he isn't important... T_T |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Again that is all your opinion, respectable, but not necesarily the fact it disappointed other people as well as it did to you, means you represent the same feeling, it could have disappointed other people for reasons enterely different, which is why I, and considering I am not an english speaker, and therefor my interpretation of english differs, it's important for each person to label their own feelings as their own, not as a group's.
Yes, the ending was liked by some, and disliked by some as well. Nothing else can be done about it really. I myself can't think of a believable way of 'defeating' Duo, considering he's pretty much a 'god' in comparision to the other navis/humans. Can you?
Again, what I said of Cross Fusion is simple, Beast has not aired yet and people are already complaining that Cross Fusion is not gone. Wether they use it every day or not, it'll be unknown until the series airs. People could very well wait to see what's gonna happen, there's a difference between throwing ideas or hoping for certain things, than to cringe for the 'lasting' of those they don't like.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Ming Yi wrote: | | Regal as a snake was kind of surprising for me, but when he shot red laser beams from my eyes, that's when I started laughing. I found that scene funny for some reason. |
You and me both. It reminded me of one of those old-school Godzilla movies. XD It's a shame - I think that was supposed to be a serious part. XD;
At any rate, I think the ending was fitting for Stream. At first I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't a big battle, but then I thought back on it - there doesn't need to be the giant battle between the CF team and Duo for it to be a good ending. The emotional aspect was nice to see, and I was so happy to see the Navis and their operators interacting in real life.
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Megagirl.exe
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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O yeah, I feel relieve about Rockman X Medi and Netto X Jasmine  .
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Ming Yi
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I don't really understand what you mean by that. Are you glad that they haven't been paired up again or something?
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Megagirl.exe
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, Im glad they arent paired up.
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| Duo is sort of like Galactus from Marvel comics. He can't be defeated merely convinced to go away. One thing I noticed was they are still playing intrumental versions of the Axess theme. Isn't it kind of old. I mean they never played the exe theme in Axess? And Beast isn't going to have a movie right? I hope not. Stream's movie kinda messed up the series. |
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RLinksoul
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| Hmm..I've forgotten Toadman as well... Has he played any role in Stream? |
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Shonshiwo15
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think they're gonna make another Rockman.exe movie. ...hm...I'm gonna make a topic about that right now! thanks for the idea! lol. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Toadman was in the first Stream ending, when they showed all the BN5 navis and Roll. Maybe the writers meant for him to be in it, but didn't plan out the story?
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| RLinksoul wrote: | | Whao...it just hit me, Numberman is the only BN5 Navi who hasn't cross fused...you guys are right, he isn't important... T_T |
Numberman and Toadman were both excluded from the Cross Fusion action. Meiru and Yuriko replaced them... apparently the writers decided this after Stream started airing, since Numberman and Toadman were shown a lot in the first credits sequence (as if they would have importance or something). Hell, Toadman never appeared PERIOD.
| Aquaman OS wrote: | | Duo is sort of like Galactus from Marvel comics. He can't be defeated merely convinced to go away. One thing I noticed was they are still playing intrumental versions of the Axess theme. Isn't it kind of old. I mean they never played the exe theme in Axess? And Beast isn't going to have a movie right? I hope not. Stream's movie kinda messed up the series. |
Axess and Stream's bgm is done by a guy named IGAO, who also did the two theme songs for Axess. EXE was done by an entirely different composer. IGAO has pretty much established the many Axess themes as the EXE anime's new "theme," so it's gonna be here for a while (unless he decides to go with a clean slate for Beast, but then again, I said the same for Stream, so I highly doubt it)...
And, once more, with the Stream ending, I would have been perfectly dandy with it if it didn't feel so rushed, and if there was a bit more explaining. That and at least SOME kind of interesting fight... not neccessarily against Duo. 51 should have been a two-part episode... Forte and Slur's fight should have been longer and more interesting, Regal's fight should have lasted longer as well, and the Duo confrontation should have been EXPLAINED more thoroughly. Hell, rewritten a bit wouldn't hurt... the Cross Fusion members still feel completely and utterly useless, regardless that we waited 51 episodes to gather them all up. And Barrel's fusing with Duo should have been clarified a bit more too... I'm sure I'm repeating myself at this point, but maybe I'm just trying to clear up specifically why Stream's ending felt lame to me.
EDIT: Something else that dawned on me about how Stream left so many questions completely unanswered... Regal and Yuriko were "probes" of Duo or something, weren't they?
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What did that have to do with ANYTHING?
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Awwww how dissapointing... alright, I shouldn't flame Stream here, but I just want to say that, in my opinion, Stream's ending was awful. I'm most likely only saying that because of how much I loved Axess' ending. The Forte vs. Slur battle was too short, and seemed pointless, but sure looked great. Regal's plan backfired for no reason besides Duo being a freakin untouchable super God. And the the Cross Fusion rangers don't... actually fight anything... I was dissapointed with Stream, it had so much promise during it's beginning episodes, but it's like, we spent the whole series waiting for Duo to do something, and every other sub-villian was ridiculous. One tease Soul Unison... 13 Cross Fusions.
The Stream series is best summed up with one emoticon. An ignored ToadMan rolling his eyes: :eyes:
If you ask me, Rockman EXE's animators need to cool off, take a break from Stream, and recollect themselves so they can make Beast a good series, before they rush it again to match Capcom's game lineup.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| RLinksoul wrote: | | Whao...it just hit me, Numberman is the only BN5 Navi who hasn't cross fused...you guys are right, he isn't important... T_T |
I don't think it's that it's just what can he do? Scan stuff and use dice. Is that all? Now think about him cross fused with higby. Doesn't seem to work does it? Altough this doesn't explain toadman and kero but it might explain higsby and numberman. |
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Um...okay. This episode sounds confusing. I better see it before I make any judgements on it.
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Well, I've been perusing 51's screencaps, does snake Regal remind anyone else of Jafar?
Anyway, Stream had potential in the beginning, but part 1 was basically a parade of fillers. After 40, it got better, but it had a rushed feeling to it.
Well, I guess ever EXE series is good for something; EXE for the charm, Axess for the fights, and Stream for the WTFness.
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From what I can tell, most of Stream actually was filler episodes, with only a little bit of plot progress scattered around, especially the episodes with Slur. Even then, there wasn't much progress...it was just some random person getting an Asteroid Navi, Navi goes maniacal, is eventually defeated, and then...FILLER! ZOMFGLOL!
Personally, I would have liked to see Regal make a comeback in Beast. I was rather disappointed to see one of EXE's coolest villains get what was in my humble opinion one of the most pathetic deaths ever. So for now it doesn't seem like Regal will make a comeback, after looking at his corpse in the screencaps section and thinking, "Okay. He can't get any more dead than that."
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Geez, I hope the people who worked on Stream are reading all of the flames written here :D I kid, I kid. Well, Beast looks a little more promising. I hope Duo makes a small appearance in Beast, mainly just to do a battle. I wanted to see him moves his lazy ass and do a move that doesn't require his face. He didn't even move for Anger Impact. I was hoping for MeteorKnuckle...well, I give Stream an overall 9/10.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh - I think, if Shadowman can come back, from getting shot to death - Regal can come back (Especially, when you don't see what Duo does to Regal - aside from knocking over that container-thingie). |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| ComicX6 wrote: | | Well, I've been perusing 51's screencaps, does snake Regal remind anyone else of Jafar? |
Hey yeah, it also reminded me of that. Also, about the ending, I may have not understand the language, but it seems that duo really was after domething (hence barrel & Duo) I see this more as in emotional.
*goes and see's more Forte kick-ass action*
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