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| Phantomman.EXE wrote: | | Well, technically, [spoil:f98b72cb91]Proto is the embodiment of the primitive Internet of EXE[/spoil:f98b72cb91]... for some reason he's always reminded me of a giant slug. |
Well, actually [spoil:f98b72cb91]while he is an early form of the Net, it was a different type of network they used in the end[/spoil:f98b72cb91]
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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oh thank's about that!! so what is alpha really are?network,program or virus??
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:28 am Post subject: |
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i think alpha is a virus or network.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| Proto is Proto-type Network, not virus. His minion called Protobug aren't virus either.They are generate from the bug in his body. I was also quited annoyed when a lot of people said that Gospel is Virus(Which he is not, he is a multi-bug organism). |
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Well...Proto and Gospel yes, they aren't Virii. But any program with a malicious purpose is a virus. So, technically Dark Loids are Virii too.
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I thought that Proto would come because of the name "Beast", but then I thought of Grega and Faltzer.
I think that they are goin to keep Proto for the last season, or a movie. He would be cool though :/ |
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| HiKaizer wrote: | | Well...Proto and Gospel yes, they aren't viruses. But any program with a malicious purpose is a virus. So, technically Dark Loids are viruses too. |
That's wrong. Viruses are small applications or scripts that cause damage of some sort to a compter's software or its hardware's firmware, and is transmitted via physical media. Worms are similar to viruses, but are transmitted via networks (though the terms are often used interchangeably). Trojans relay data back to the malicious party that first installed it. Spyware monitors your Internet activites and relays it back to advertising companies. Adware forces advertisements to come up on a host computer, in one form or another. Malware refers to scripts or apps that change settings to either make the computer vulerable or degrade its usability.
Each and every one of these categories cover malicious programs, and only one type can be defined as a virus.
As for Darkloids, they're sentient, fully-fledged Navis, and in the EXE world, they thus fall under the Navi category, not the Virus category.
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Disregarding how the term "virus" is used in our real life, you have to also keep in mind that, in the EXE world, a virus is a breed of cyber organisms, like a species of animals. The term "virus" in the EXE world can't be simplified to something that causes problems on the internet. That'd be like saying if I peed on a tree, I'm a dog.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Alpha should get a feature moive, I mean it is vital to the exe plot line.I mean it was the Beta verson of the cyberword
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| HiKaizer wrote: | | Phantomman.EXE wrote: | | Well, technically, [spoil:09a60e6f14]Proto is the embodiment of the primitive Internet of EXE[/spoil:09a60e6f14]... for some reason he's always reminded me of a giant slug. |
Well, actually [spoil:09a60e6f14]while he is an early form of the Net, it was a different type of network they used in the end[/spoil:09a60e6f14] |
Hence me using the word "primitive" |
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To stop every thing about this what is alpha a virus or network stuff
Alpha is the proto-type of the net WWW tried to use this beast to destroy the net. Like always Lan and Megaman[spoil:a825c3548f](Hub)[/spoil:a825c3548f] come to stop them as always and Megaman dies to save Lan in cyberworld
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| yup... that's basically it in a nutshell, although it's been said about 5 times already, so let's go into a bit more detail for the sake of clarifiying the arguments a bit more: the reason Proto, although a primitive network, is all weird like it is is 'cause it kind of evolved... not the best at explaining it, if someone knows what I'm talking about and can elaborate a bit, that'd be nice all I remember is that [spoil:4789c7e8fc]in BN3 they were talking about how Proto began showing irregularities and developed amoeba like properties, etc... it's still a little hazy to me [/spoil:4789c7e8fc] -.- |
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It was to the scientists too.
And with the Dog, no, it's like saying humans are animals, which we are. End of case.
Proto just absorbs data and makes itself bigger. The eyes thing has nothing really to do with anything, Capcom just thought it would look cool.
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| HiKaizer wrote: | | And with the Dog, no, it's like saying humans are animals, which we are. End of case. |
That's horribly false logic. Humans and dogs are very different species.
Humans are Homo sapiens sapiens, in the family Hominidae. Dogs are Canis lupus familiaris, in the family Canidae. We're both mammals and we both eat meat, but man and dog are seperate species by a wide margin.
Just because Proto caused damage and Viruses typically do damage, and they're both made of data does not mean they are the same thing.
As for what Proto actually is, it was mean to be the framework for an adaptable new Internet. Eventually, it became somewhat self-aware and malicious, and tried to spread its presence as far as it could reach. It's not a network per se - just software to manage networks.
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Software to manage the Network? That sounds like Pharaohman to me. Am I right about that?
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Pharaohman is the tv series and is the first NetNavi Tadashi Hikari built
Alpha is the game way and is the prototype of the internet made by Tadashi Hikari and Wily wants to control both.
This dicussion on what is alpha is now stops because this is annoying My question was on why wasn't alpha in the anime series.
Anyway I now think that Alpha will be in the last season because Megaman gets deleted and even if he has been deleted before they never said that he couldn't get deleted again right
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Proto/Alpha has not been used in the anime series just because the anime writes just didn't want to use him yet. He might very well end up having the very same fate of the Life Virus, One episode and get owned with waterguns. >_>;
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| Tachyon360 wrote: | | HiKaizer wrote: | | And with the Dog, no, it's like saying humans are animals, which we are. End of case. |
That's horribly false logic. Humans and dogs are very different species.
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Don't twist my words. I didn't say we were the same species, but both animals, which is a broad classification. Humans are closely related to apes, which we call Animals, so by logic we must be too. I amit I was wrong about the Viruses, now drop the subject.
That would be awful, Proto needs to be used properly, in a well constructed plot, otherwise it'll be very confusing for all.
And I find it odd that the first Navi is the most powerful, wouldn't he be the most primitve as well? Ah well, it's all very messed up in the Anime.
Proto deserves a Movie I feel, there's not really enough for a whole Series, but a Movie would be able to encapsulate the plot in a quite acceptable manner.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| Alpha might show up in Beast. Since he does remind us of some kind of beast. :/ |
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