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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No the episode isn't up yet, but Josuke usually sees the episodes before they're put on Saito-Raws.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clearing that up. I was getting confused there.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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XD Beast Coldman, dear god...

Well if that's true, then that means that we may just be seeing a manaiacal monster muffin sometime in the future from Falzer :D Freezeman would make a good one too. However, I wonder if many of the NAVIs with no element, or a different type (such as the wind and sword types) would be abe to be revived.


Punk is on Faltzer's team BTW(Keep in mind that both 'armies' are against each other)

I think Plant will be back later in the series, atleast I hope so.... I also think that Planet and Snake could be in Grega's army... Snake was both a Darkloid and an Asteroid in Stream... so why not?.... Beast Bowlman....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah I see. But I'm a little confused about something. The Asteroid NAVIs seemed to have the same memories as they did as a Darkloid, or a solo NAVI, from when they fought against Megaman in the first two shows. I'm guessing that the revived Plantman and Sparkman did as well, but what the weird thing is, HOW do they keep getting revived as different types of NAVIs exactly? And how do they keep those previous incarnation's memories? The Asteroids I sort of understood, but it was still a bit vague, so what's the deal with these Zoanroids, and now Copyroids? Was this explained a while ago and I missed it?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression that they didn't remember anything from the past. As for Copyroids, I still say it's a universal term for revived navis like the Asteroids and these Zoanroids we've got.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does seem that the Zoanoroids have no idea or memory at all about who their 'look alike' in the earth's cyberworld are. Both Plantman and Sparkman seemed to be unable to recognize their 'names' when Blues, Searchman and Rockman called them.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That means there will be two different groups with various navis as well as all new ones. This series will be awesome.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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EDIT: So in other words, it really wouldn't matter because the games will probably be DS games, which also means the next EXE game will also be on the DS but will be compatible with Micro.

I hope that answers your question HiKaizer


Dark Liger The GBA MICRO uses GBA games just like the SP did, just because the system is smaller doesn't mean it has different Cartriges. The GBA MICRO can' t play DS games but the DS can play GBA/SP/MICRO games because they are all the same. SO There would be no reason for the games to say GBA MICRO on them because EXE 7 will more than likely be a DS game so it will be for the DS, not Micro at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay kids, let's stay within ANIME AND MANGA related issues. For discussion about compatibility of the games with the different consoles, I'd suggest to take the chatter to the games section. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh...so, they're just completely new NAVIs that JUST SO HAPPEN to look like Plantman and Sparkman. This leaves to question if poor Ryouko will have to end up making character pages for every individual new version of the recycled NAVIs @.@
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Plant will be back later in the series, atleast I hope so.... I also think that Planet and Snake could be in Grega's army... Snake was both a Darkloid and an Asteroid in Stream... so why not?.... Beast Bowlman....


Um, SnakeMan was a Darkloid AND an Asteroid? :O I thought that SnakeMan only appeared once in Season 2 of EXE..... could you point out any episodes where he was a Darkloid/Asteroid? Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Shademan-sama did evil things in the past, he was a Darkloid. I'm just going to assume during the final episodes of Stream, he was an Asteroid.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allow me to explain.

In episode 32 of Stream, the future was changed due to Shademan traveling to the past. In the 'new future' Snakeman WAS one of the darkloid 'clones'. There were several copies of different navis. So you could see Bubbleman leading armies full of copies of Bowlman or Plantman or Cutman or Snakeman.

In episodes 48 and 50 of Stream. More asteroid navis were going rampant through the whole planet. Among which we saw a few more copies of Snakeman as an 'Asteroid Navi'.

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Kirbo, yeah they seem to be something like 'paralel/alternate universe' alter-egos of the navis that existed in the earth's cyberworld. Unlike the Asteroids or Darkloids, the Zoanoroids don't have an individual navi insignia. They carry either Greiga's or Falzer's insignia depending of which army they serve.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Episode 2 of Beast, we learn that the Zoanoroids don't particularly have names for themselves when they appear from Beyondard.

For example:

When Blues and Zoanaroid Plantman first meet, Blues calls him first by name. However, Zoanoroid Plantman doesn't recognize it. Blues realizes it's not the original Plantman they knew, and Plantman confirms that he is a Zoanoroid, or 'Zoan' for short. He then just refers to himself as 'Zoan Plantman'. The same situation occurs between Rockman, Searchman and Zoan Sparkman.

Rockman: "Sparkman!"
Searchman: "No, he's different from Sparkman. His data is much stronger."

Sparkman asks if they're responisble for protecting the cyberworld of this world, then proceeds to attack them without waiting for an answer.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's odd is, when Plantman transforms, his Navi Mark changes into the actual crest that's on Grega's head, while Sparkman's Falzer Navi Mark stays the same. I wonder why his didn't change? .-.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it was an animation error? And I'm wondering: What if some of the navis who are still alive (Airman, Fireman, Coloredman, etc.) will get Zoanaroid Versions? and if so, what if they meet eachother?
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Instead of the 'petals' pattern Plantman usually had in his navi insignia, Plantman had Greiga's icon, but very small. It's when he changes to beast form that the whole icon is replaced by the crest alone.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. Beast is getting REALLY confusing.

So these Zoanoroids don't remeber there past memories, there insignia is gone and they can transform into beast-like appearances. And there is two sides.

So that means would the two dark sides battle each other with Netto and co in the middle? :/
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Tohru wrote:
So these Zoanoroids don't remeber there past memories


They don't have 'past' memories, the aren't the same navis that we saw previously. They come from another world, or something along those lines, so they just have the same appearance of another navi from 'our world' but aren't the same nor have the same memories. They are alter-egos of the navis we knew, but they AREN'T those navis. Or in theory is what seems to be the case.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm...if Beyondard is like one of the X-Men alternate universes with the same characters that end up having a very different history, then maybe Trill is the alternate version of Megaman, but in the form of a Zoan, thus having Megaman transform into a Zoan-form when he fuses with his alternate self...god dammit, why are all of my original ideas being STOLEN. And this is probably just Capcom liking to reuse character designs, but perhaps Greiga is an alternate version of Gospel.
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