How does a slasher work?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the Iai form(slasher) is good for many things you can also use with a high success rate against dominerd's or momogra's
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can hit the momogra on the back with slasher? I had no idea
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... do you have to be Aqua style to use it? Maybe that's my problem. ^^; I'll try again sometime.

Do you think Slasher would work against Spike? He's hard to beat. I just gave up on him. lol
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...Spike? What the hell is Spike?

Anyway, you don't have to be Aqua style to use Geyser. Perhaps you're using Waterline or Fountain and mistaking them for Geyser.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...Spike? What the hell is Spike?

Anyway, you don't have to be Aqua style to use Geyser. Perhaps you're using Waterline or Fountain and mistaking them for Geyser.


Sorry, I meant Punk. Mr. Famous' net navi. ^^; I said Spike because of the way he looks and his rolling spikey attack.

Hmm... well, it's whichever one you throw into a hole. And no, I'm not throwing it into a cracked panel. Why? Does Waterline and Fountain work similarly or differently?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, Punk. No it doesn't work on Punk because he's guarded while he's rolling. For Punk you want to use hole-making chips and object chips, they'll prevent him from coming anywhere near you.

If you're using Geyser, and using exactly as in the screenshot comic, and it's STILL not working, then the only explanation is that you're game is glitched or something.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you ever used a GameShark or other game-altering device on your game? It's possible that you've caused some kind of glitch in the cart.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, no GameSharky. Though I've thought about it...heh. Mainly to get the stuff you can't get unless you live in Japan and went to the varios conventions and stuff....plus extra zenny would be nice. ^_^ Don't own one though.

Maybe it IS Waterline or Fountain I'm thinking of.... I haven't had a chance to look again to see. I wish there was an all comprehensive site complete with battle chip pictures, what they do, how to use them, what's best to use them on, screen shots of how they look when used properly, and so on... All or none of course. :D
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, Sprites INC has pictures of all the chips from each game as well as their names of course. You could see if that helps.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slahser is so godly wonderful. If I knew how it worked, I would not have wasted like half a year trying to beat these boss like beastman, and others. :grr:

Oh just a question, how did the slasher attack got raise so high from 180 to 240?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...I have a theory. Perhaps when Slasher appeared in BN2, people didn't know how to use it, even though when properly used it is a fabulous chip. Maybe the upping to 240 would attract a few more naive players to use slasher, and perhaps experiment with it until they figured it out.

Also, a lot of the chips were seriously downtuned in BN2, as their damage dropped fairly significantly from BN1. This was corrected in BN3, to an extent. However, IIRC, BN4 dropped the damage of the Slasher yet again...forgot to where...

Your thoughts?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's most likely that they changed the damage because Iai Form can only be used on enemies that have the ability to step on your panels anyways and not every enemy can do that.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Midnight Critic wrote:
Also, a lot of the chips were seriously downtuned in BN2, as their damage dropped fairly significantly from BN1. This was corrected in BN3, to an extent. However, IIRC, BN4 dropped the damage of the Slasher yet again...forgot to where...

Your thoughts?


*Looks at game* Nope, still 240.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eep...you're probably right. I haven't had time to check my BN4 game for a while.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



There's your proof.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough.

Still, it "feels" downtuned, in the loosest sense. Probably because many of the virus' HP has risen quite dramatically in the transition between the games. In the previous two games, a Slasher could wax just about any virus that came your way. Now, with 200+ HP viruses not uncommon, the Slasher can simply kill fewer enemies than it could before.

It still puts a pretty big dent in them anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Proportional nerf, eh? You have a point there.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Say does it exist the the 5th game as well?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and it still does 240 damage. It was 180 in BN2 and NT, and then 240 onwards, so if anything the chip has been powered up, but I guess the viruses have been powered up more.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never used it normally because you had to wait until the enemy charged at you to use it. And if it did charge at you with more than 240 hp, you'd get hit. And that's no fun.

Maybe I'll give it another try when I get BN5
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