Golden Sun Help (possible Golden Sun spoilers )

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I was just playing Golden Sun the Lost Age , and I am at the very last point in the game : Doom Dragon . The problem is , I cant beat him . I have got him down to two heads , but then I died . Can anybody give any tips for beating him ?
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**Sol** · Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject:

Well, the first one is obvious: Go and level up more.

Also, check if you have all the Djinni. Make sure you set them up to your needs, and not to mix and match too much. The character's stats all depend on the Djinni Set-up.

Do you have good equipment, especially the Sol Blade? If not, go and get some more materials to give to the Blacksmith in that one town.

Those are the ones off the top of my head. Doom Dragon may be tough, but healing every turn and using Djinni sparingly helps tremendously.
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rock.exe · Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 38

I recommend you to go find all the Summons (except for Iris, if you can´t beat Doom Dragon, you´ll never defeat Iris´s guardian), Catastrophe will help you a lot. If you want to train, go to the Islet cave and find 2 wonder birds, kill one, then let the remaining bird revive the dead bird, repeat that a lot of times, each bird gives you like 8000 or more experience.
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Nazne · Shukei - Hakuteiken Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1133

Do you have Eclipse? Cheap and does a hellva lot of damage to all of the Dragon's heads. <<

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rock.exe · Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 38

Actually, you can only damage one head at a time.
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**Sol** · Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject:

Eh...I find that the summons don't really help all that much. In the battle against the Doom Dragon, lowering your stats is the last thing you want to do.

...of course, if he does something like Djinnstorm, then it's bad. I guess it's all dependant on luck and what kind of power you're packing. *shrug*
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Ganondorf8 · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:42 am Post subject:

With the Doom Dragon, the good thing is that each head has less hitpoints than the one before it. The bad thing is that each head becomes stronger and that you have to defeat each of them one at a time. You will need to have your characters over the Level 40 and make sure that you have collected all 72 Djinn as that will allow your characters to last as long as possible. Summons are your best bet, but be careful if you decide to use the strongest ones as those require many Djinn to be set.

The Iris summon can deal a lot of damage at a hefty cost of Djinn, but what I did was make it available to the characters in the back so that when the first four die and they come in, they can use Iris to inlfict damage and revive the first four and allow them one more chance. Of course, if you have not defeated the guardian of Iris, then that option won't be available.

Xel · Dr. Wily's Peon Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Posts: 60

Okay, for one you need all the Djinn collected. I say this because I can't remember the names but I think like 2 or 4 of the Djinn cancels out the damage a monster does. I think one was "Flash?" Anywho, give those Djinn to one person each of your fighting party. Pick your best people to give them to. Then have one person use their djinn and the others attack and heal. Then next turn, have the Djinn person from last turn recover his Djinn for next round and use another person's sheild Djinn. Repeat untill 3rd head as it has an attack that disable all the attacking party's Djinn. You might want to put a sheild Djinn in the secondary party if possible.

And do NOT use summons. They will get you killed off quickly. One good super attack from the second or third head (I think it was Doom Rain or something like that) will end you if you do so.

HeatShadow · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject:

The Doom Dragon can attack multiple times, and if it so chooses to use any of those turns to use Doom Rain multiple times, you're screwed no matter what you do, so you just have to assume he's NOT going to do that. The same goes for Djinn Storm, you just have to fight normally and assume it won't use Storm on you.

I can beat Doom Dragon fairly easily by swapping party members in and out and using the most powerful of the summons; Iris and Charon. Check GameFAQs for info on getting them.

Start the battle with Garret, Jenna, Mia, and either Ivan or Sheeba. Iris uses 9 Mars Djinn and 4 Mercury Djinn, so build up to that while using spells to keep your Defense and Resistence as high as possible. Always have Mia in the battle and have her heal whenever you take more than alittle damage. Using Iris heals your party completely, including members on the sidelines. Once it's been used, switch Garret and Jenna for Issac and Felix. Charon uses 8 Venus Djinn and 2 Jupiter Djinn, so build those up and fire away. Lather, rinse, and repeat, switching continuously between Iris and Charon. Equip Mia with Eddy to speed up the process. Remember to keep your defensive stats up and keep your party healed. If anyone ends up with a free turn where they can't work more towards a summon, use the most powerful damage spell they have.
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**Sol** · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject:

Alright...if he's having trouble with the Doom Dragon, then I don't see how he'll have Iris. Dullahan is far more difficult than the Doom Dragon; possibly twice or three times as hard.

Anyways, whether you summon or not is up to you. Do you want to make a really powerful attack, but lower your stats severely by doing so? A good set up can give you great psynergy spells, such as Pure Wish. The Sol Blade is crucial for the battle as well; Megiddo can do damage in the eight hundreds, possibly more if you use Impact enough times.

As stated before, have all 72 Djinn before going after the Doom Dragon. Flash and Shade are wonders against it, seeing as they cut damage down by 7/8ths* and 3/4ths respectively.

*I probably got that one wrong. It's been a while since I've played this game. ^^;
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rock.exe · Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 38

I only recomend to use summons with the first head only, because you´ll need all your djinns when he starts using Cruel Ruin every turn. I know that they already told you this, but use the Sol blade, it really helps. I also recommend you to have Mia or Jenna with enough Djinns to use their best recovery psynergies, one in the front row and one in the backrow, so when Doom Dragon uses Djinn Storm you just change to the other healer.
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Kupo.EXE · Darkloid Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 537

first match to his weeknesses, wind. So blast him with eclipse rush and have mia and shiba in party one with alot of djinn so that you can summon rush, thor works too but I reccomend Eclipse for a good couple thousand and then heel while using others summons but use wind pysnergy.

HeatShadow · Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:46 pm Post subject:

Ganondorf8 · Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:32 am Post subject:

**Sol** · Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:35 pm Post subject:

GospelDS · Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject:

Would this party work ?

Felix - Switching
Mia - Paragon
Piers - Switching
Isaac - Samurai

What I was thinking here was this is that Isaac wields the Sol Blade , so he can stay alive and use Meggido for longer . Mia could heal everybody a lot . Piers can be an attacker with summons and Djinni , rotating between them .( Why I said switching) Same for Felix .

I know I will have to edit my subbed party too , but do you think it might work ? Confused

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Ganondorf8 · Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:53 pm Post subject:

With Formina Sage Sol, it acts like a triple damaged attack and it does have the potential to take down a character in one hit. For some strange reaso, Issac and Felix can stand up to it at least once if their hitpoints are high enough for them to hold on. He attacks three times per turn, heals 200 hitpoints and 30 psynergy points per turn and he also uses Djinni Storm. Then there are the rest of his attacks which include True Collide, Element Swap, Condemn, Haunt, Curse, a regular attack and I think Break is in there but I'm not so sure.

I've often had trouble dealing with the final head of Doom Dragon due to Djinni Storm. Cruel Ruin can do less damage if Flash, Shade, or Granite was used prior to the dragon attacking that turn. From what I have seen of your lineup Gospel, giving the Sol Blade to Issac was a good idea (I personally have him as a Slayer) and while Mia can heal, she tends to be a bit slow for my liking so I use Jenna instead. Piers will do well as an attacker but make sure that he has Shade to reduce damage at certain times. As for Felix, I suppose that he could work to. The other four in the back will need to be as good as the front group as you will have to rely on all eight characters.

Nenji · Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject:

I always use the Invinvibilty Djinni (I forget the names, there's one for the original GS and one for TLA, but that one is less powerful) alternating, to help avoid damage. Pure Wish is useful, but the second level will do if you're careful. So, unless Jenna has the third level healing spell, you'll need Mia for sure (Assuming you're using Native Classes)

The key to doing well in GS is knowing how to manage your Djinni, and it's crucial if you plan on beating any of the secret bosses in Hard Mode...and some of those are insane in Hard Mode.
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Kali The Wolf · Net Battler Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 88 Location: Oregon

Actually, Dullahan was quite easy! I beat him at level 36! All I needed to do was summon Charon 3 times, each hit did 3500 damage! Go after Iris, it'll help you beat Doom Dragon! If you didn't know, Doom Dragon is [spoil:023896db3c]Isaac's dad and Felix's parents, not to mention Alex is trying to take over the world![/spoil:023896db3c]

PumpkinMaster · Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Ask MR. PROG

Just a tip, if you have the summon eclipse, it works just as well as charon against dullihan. use it instead, also training near the sentinal where the fire birds are is good for xp. try and find 2 of them then kill one, and hope the other revives it. I was level 56 when I beat him. good luck.