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Dark Liger Net Official
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Cokeman.EXE wrote: | I think they're good predictions. However, I have a hard time seeing Barrel with Goku's voice... ^_^ |
Try it. Do you have Goku's current voice down? You do? Good. Now, imagine him saying maybe "HiCannon! Battlechip in, download!"
How does that sound? |
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blazequest Net Police
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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...I imagine Barryl's voice deeper. _________________ Original name: blazequest |
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Kirbopher15 User is Disabled
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:44 am Post subject: |
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It doesn't look like Tomahawkman is going to get a name chance PERIOD. His name was kept in the games, and his name has been kept in the comics so far. I'd call that a good sign.
Also, Sean Schemmel doesn't NATURALLY sound like Goku, it's called a "character voice" people. |
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Gankutsuou Net Agent
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:23 am Post subject: |
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I can only think of the name changes they'll make to the next batch of characters. Not sure if I'll watch it though since I didn't really enjoy Stream until Dark RockMan came in. I might, but I was so happy Stream ended in Japan so I don't have to put up with freaking VideoMan anymore!! I hate that navi. I also didn't really like Neo-WWW.
Name predictions:
TomahawkMan becomes IndianMan... oh wait, that is still too questionable sounding. BraveMan
GyroMan becomes CopterMan
Medi will become Nurse
I can't even think of who else was introduced right now. _________________ Once I was Dr Kain, but I died and have been reborn as Gankutsuou. |
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Dark Liger Net Official
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Gankutsuou wrote: | I can only think of the name changes they'll make to the next batch of characters. Not sure if I'll watch it though since I didn't really enjoy Stream until Dark RockMan came in. I might, but I was so happy Stream ended in Japan so I don't have to put up with freaking VideoMan anymore!! I hate that navi. I also didn't really like Neo-WWW.
Name predictions:
TomahawkMan becomes IndianMan... oh wait, that is still too questionable sounding. BraveMan
GyroMan becomes CopterMan
Medi will become Nurse
I can't even think of who else was introduced right now. |
I don't think there would be any reason to change GyroMan's name; but if they changed Medi's name to anything other than Meddy, ohhh, the dub people are asking for a beatdown. :grr: |
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blazequest Net Police
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:49 am Post subject: |
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I agree. They should keep their names.
Kirbopher15 wrote: | It doesn't look like Tomahawkman is going to get a name chance PERIOD. His name was kept in the games, and his name has been kept in the comics so far. I'd call that a good sign. |
That doesn't necessarily prove anything. Viz has been pretty unpredictable in their name changes. There are so many examples. Fireman, Napalmman, Plantman, Beastman, Metalman, Windman... all changed, and for very little reason. In fact some of the dub names were just plain stupid.
I'd be just as happy as the rest of you to be proven wrong (well, no not exactly, that would mean admitting that I was wrong, but I think you know what I mean), but no, I think the dubbers are going to pull another one out of left field if they ever do get to Stream. _________________ Original name: blazequest |
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Kirbopher15 User is Disabled
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Well in the case of the comics, with the exception of Plantman and Beastman, who for some reason actually kept their names in the english manga, Viz usually uses names such as "Spoutman" and "Torchman" simply for continuity with the tv show. If Tomahawkman kept his name in the comics' official translation before he even made his appearance, then that's a good enough sign for me that he'll retain his name. Not to mention, all of the MAIN characters' NAVIs have kept their original names for the english dub, and since Tomahawkman and Dingo obviously are, that's even more reason. This is all speculation, and I'm not saying it's impossible for them to change his name for another completely weird reason, maybe you'll be right, but you gotta admit it DOES make a bit of sense.
Quote: | TomahawkMan becomes IndianMan... oh wait, that is still too questionable sounding. BraveMan
GyroMan becomes CopterMan
Medi will become Nurse |
Uh...yeah...I'm not even TOUCHING this one. |
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blazequest Net Police
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Just because they change the names to a name with a lesser cool factor does not mean they will be absolutely stale or non-sensical. Braveman, Copterman and Nurse, sadly, fall into the latter category.
...Can anyone say SPINNINGGYROMAN?!?!? _________________ Original name: blazequest |
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Mist Net Agent
Age: 33 Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 241 Location: Nowheresville
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Ah yes, the inevitable name changes. Even if Yamatoman does get changed to Japanman, at least they're keeping true to the name(Yamato being a traditional name for Japan) As for the others, as long as the name changes aren't too bad, and the voice actors suit the role I'll be happy.
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Crimson Seiko [Dream] Chaser
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 1528 Location: WV
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Sketch wrote: | There's no date though...that doesn't really say anything...doesn't PAC run that guide anyway? .-. |
Not anymore. I stopped updating so I lost my editorial rank. Not that it matters to me... I have Plug-In now. I was sick of TV.com anyway... shoddy site...
So, honestly, as for name changes... did you guys not notice the trend in Axess? Yes, Axess got some bizarre name changes, but were any of those characters actually really relevent to the plot? Plantman, Junkman, Coldman, Starman, all of them... they didn't do much. I think the writers were simply having some fun with the really minor characters. Sure, there's the exceptions of, say, SpoutMan and SavageMan, but these are most likely for copyright concerns. Vital story characters like ShadeMan, SearchMan, and LaserMan, for example, were unscathed.
My point is... unless there's any real concern for a name change, such as for copyright concerns, I figure the important characters of Stream will remain in-tact. This, of course, disregarding Nenji/Fyrefox. I imagine he'll get a new name entirely.
The only thing about Stream that interests me is whether or not they'll try to make Narcy a girl... That and R Needleman's boobs. Does ShoPro really intend on painting over them in every single one of her appearances? _________________
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Kirbopher15 User is Disabled
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly, just like I said about the main characters before.
Also like I mentioned on the previous page, considering Bon Clay, the One Piece character who DEFINES "pink and gay" flamboyant anime characters, was left COMPLETELY intact...on a show that was dubbed by 4Kids of all people, I'd say Narcy should be the least of our worries.
As for Nenji, I still think he'll just be called Fyrefox. If there was gonna be any sort of problem with his name at all, then Capcom of America wouldn't've used the blatant Web-Browser joke to begin with. With Needlewoman, who knows. Maybe when they realize she has a few more appearances in the series from there on, maybe they'll be totally inconsistent again and leave her boobs uncolored in Stream. |
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Dark Liger Net Official
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 343 Location: Neo Arcadia
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Kirbopher15 wrote: | Exactly, just like I said about the main characters before.
Also like I mentioned on the previous page, considering Bon Clay, the One Piece character who DEFINES "pink and gay" flamboyant anime characters, was left COMPLETELY intact...on a show that was dubbed by 4Kids of all people, I'd say Narcy should be the least of our worries.
As for Nenji, I still think he'll just be called Fyrefox. If there was gonna be any sort of problem with his name at all, then Capcom of America wouldn't've used the blatant Web-Browser joke to begin with. With Needlewoman, who knows. Maybe when they realize she has a few more appearances in the series from there on, maybe they'll be totally inconsistent again and leave her boobs uncolored in Stream. |
Yeah, but who knows? Maybe 4Kids and KidsWB will pull a 'Sailor Moon' and actually change Narcy's gender to female (like Zoicite - if that's how you spell HIS name)... they again how are they going to pull it off? I mean - No boobs! I haven't seen a woman with no breasts yet; unless she was in the IBTC. But with computers nowadays, a skilled animator could simply draw boobs on Narcy. So... |
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Kirbopher15 User is Disabled
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | But with computers nowadays, a skilled animator could simply draw boobs on Narcy. So... |
...um, wouldn't that be ADDING to the 'controversy' that they're trying to cover up? XD |
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Dark Liger Net Official
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I guess that would. |
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Nenji Nenjiro ja ne!
Age: 37 Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1535 Location: South...of the North Pole!
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:38 am Post subject: |
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There's no reason why they would have to explain Narcy's flat chested-ness if they were to do that. They'd just redo lines and hire a female voice actor. _________________
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Crimson Seiko [Dream] Chaser
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:45 am Post subject: |
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After seeing how ShoPro handelled Yuriko's handgun and her boobs in her last Axess appearance, I have little confidence in their editting skills. I really doubt they could give Narcy a chest that looks convincing.
Now, characters like Sailormoon's Zoicite and later Fish Eye were changed to women in the dubs because they actually had on-screen relations with other men. Zoicite even disguised himself as Sailormoon once. Since they already looked and acted just like women, it was probably easier to dub them as women, not to mention it knocks out any controversy that may occur. But I don't see Narcy trying to get in Inukai's pants, so I doubt they need to cover up his gender.
Though, we have seen ShoPro make some pretty unusual cover-ups with the EXE dub in the past, so you never know. If the series moves to something like Cartoon Network (not impossible since Kids' WB loses it's weekday line-up this January), I'm sure we'll see a lot of gratuitous editting lifted from the series. But, anyway... Narcy never struck me as controversial to begin with... rather, he gives me the same impression as Pokémon's James, just... pinker. Though probably impossible, it'd be nifty if they had the same voice actor. That'd tickle my fancy.
But, again, only time will tell...
(On another note, this reminds me of when I first saw Laika. I thought he was a girl... though I somehow knew Narcy wasn't from the start.) _________________
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Dark Liger Net Official
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:03 am Post subject: |
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You got a point there Crimson. Although, I only thought of James as being just plain weird, not potentailly queer like Narcy... AND WHO THE HECK WOULD WANT TO GET IN INUKAI'S PANTS, ANYWAY!! *shudders*
Narcy with James' VA, huh? Works for me. |
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Ryouko Kitties Love Bunnies
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I dunno, James' voice would seem a little too deep for me. But I definately relate Narcy's character to him, only a little more flambouyant. I don't think they'll need to make Narcy a woman if they dub it, which Chase pointed out that he may be girly, but he doesn't hit on any guys in the show. _________________ "Cats are interesting. They're kind of like girls. When they come talk to you, it's great. When you go talk to them, it doesn't go so well." - Miyamoto
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Crimson Seiko [Dream] Chaser
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:41 am Post subject: |
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You could argue that Lan and MegaMan's voices are too deep too. ^_^ But, yeah, James may be a little off on second thought. Say... how much you wanna bet they make Narcy French? Haha.
And you all see the way Narcy and Inukai argue. You know that when night falls, they want each other. (Actually, I only said Inukai because the writers always pair those two up. Saiko may be more Narcy's type. I better stop.)
(On the subject of James's voice actor, I read an interview with him once where he said he TRIED to make James sound a little queerish. Interesting...) _________________
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Well, with that, he mae James into one of the only reasons of why I'm STILL watching Pokemon despite the recent seasons being crappy...he's hysterical. Yay :D Then again, Eric Stuart's not in Canada and also isn't part of Ocean Group's Union, so that's also probably NEVER gonna happen, even if it would be extremely amusing.
That, and there's really nothing very 'innapropriate' about Narcy really. As you guys said, he's not actually GAY, he's just kinda girly and really really likes pink XD I'd say the makeup is pushing it a little bit, but even 4Kids, even more ridiculous with their edits and cuts, tend to keep cross-dressing/makeup wearing characters like James and Bon Clay prettymuch completely intact. It seems like one of the ONLY things from old fashioned Looney Toons-style comedy that seem to be kept in shows of today without the censors being so tight-assed about it, and that's why I'm confident about Narcy being kept as a guy. |
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