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Crimson Seiko [Dream] Chaser
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 1528 Location: WV
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Higure could have had plot significance if the writers wanted him to. You have to admit that barely any of the Cross Fusion Members had any relevence passed "being destined to stop Duo." Most them were just there for weird filler plotlines, to get crested, to take up screen time with henshin sequences, and then to vanish from existence afterwards (*cough* Jasmine, Nenji, Tesla, Charlie, Pride, Miyabi *cough*). Higure would have at least been entertaining (since he's so cowardice... you know he'd be the goofy, clumsy, odd-ball CF member). I like that Meiru got to be included, but why couldn't they just throw in one more? 13's an unlucky number anyway. (I still can't quite see Kero fitting in at all, though. Her suddenly being an ultra-strong net battler in the games was strange enough...) _________________
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Guernsey Net Agent
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 200 Location: Inside my head
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Kero powerful?! That's kind of strange considering that Toad Man doesn't appear to be a powerful navi but I lost to him 5 times in the games so I guess looks are pretty deceiving! _________________ Guernsey Adams Pierre
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QuickMan Dark Blues Stealer
Joined: 27 Nov 2005 Posts: 380 Location: BC Canada and the Darkest Pit of the Undernet!
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Guernsey wrote: | They skipped a lot of EXE5 souls, the colonel soul being one of them! |
They skipped all of them except GyroSoul.... which is a major shame. they overdid Cross Fusion a bit. |
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Razor Net Battler
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 77
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:38 am Post subject: |
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QuickMan wrote: | Guernsey wrote: | They skipped a lot of EXE5 souls, the colonel soul being one of them! |
They skipped all of them except GyroSoul.... which is a major shame. they overdid Cross Fusion a bit. |
Understatement of the year.
If you ask me, Double Soul has much more potential for brining variety to battles than Cross Fusion does. |
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Dingo Have axe, will travel
Age: 39 Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 312 Location: Follow the bouncing tomahawk...
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:56 am Post subject: |
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If you think about it, both Navi alterations are useful in their own ways:
Soul Unison - Although Rock exclusive, it does provide a variety of "un-chipped" attacks and attributes at his disposal, leaving the enemy guessing as to what he'll do next.
Cross Fusion - IMHO, a really good plot device. I know it was over-glorified in Stream, but if you think about it, the idea was kind of required. The games could never introduce something like this, and the anime had to keep attracting viewers. At least this allowed the other characters to jump in on the action rather than having Netto and Enzan steal the show.
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Guernsey Net Agent
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 200 Location: Inside my head
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:15 am Post subject: |
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Aether wrote: | If you think about it, both Navi alterations are useful in their own ways:
Soul Unison - Although Rock exclusive, it does provide a variety of "un-chipped" attacks and attributes at his disposal, leaving the enemy guessing as to what he'll do next.
Cross Fusion - IMHO, a really good plot device. I know it was over-glorified in Stream, but if you think about it, the idea was kind of required. The games could never introduce something like this, and the anime had to keep attracting viewers. At least this allowed the other characters to jump in on the action rather than having Netto and Enzan steal the show.
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Hmmmmmm, I think I agree with that the other characters should be joining in on the action though. _________________ Guernsey Adams Pierre
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Dark Liger Net Official
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 343 Location: Neo Arcadia
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:04 am Post subject: |
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For this reason, I think Beast is on the right track. While keeping Cross Fusion in the mix, it's not overusing it. I think in order for Beast to keep up its good streak, it should have a good number of NetBattles, bring in all the Cross Transformations, and keep Cross Fusion to a minimum (mainly Netto, Enzan, Raika, Meiru, and Dingo since they're there) |
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Tachyon360 Le Croissant
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 740
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Crimson Seiko wrote: | 13's an unlucky number anyway. | Consider that Duo's crest has 5 points, and that the crest invariably appears on the operator's right hand.
This leads me to a crackpot conspiracy theory. They excluded Soul Unisons simply because they're called "Souls" and thus go against their Satanic agenda. _________________ *placeholder* |
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ComicX6 We're working on it!
Age: 34 Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1071 Location: Listening to 'Secret Agent Man'
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Aquasoul was used briefly... *runs away* _________________ ' I don't care if the buzz isn't real- I can roleplay being drunk!'
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Dragonman .EXE. AMZ's Assistant
Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 274 Location: Maryland
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Guernsey Net Agent
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 200 Location: Inside my head
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Junk Soul is OK but Colonel Soul should be used in the new series also. _________________ Guernsey Adams Pierre
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Amaster42
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 15 Location: Behind you.
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Aqua soul has it's uses, so they should have used it more. Junk soul however... I think they just threw in so they could use all souls from BN4.
It is pretty cool, tho. And if you remember in an episode right near the beginning of Gospel*coughsatanicreferencecough*, Kero takes down Higure pretty fast.(True, Number man aint the best NetBattler, but...) All in all, I think if they used junk soul the way they did, just to have it from BN4, they could have at least put in Numberman, and Toadman in stream.(tsk tsk tsk, inconsistensy, shame :grr: ) Interesting thing to see in Beast will be if theres more than two beast outs.(While Falzar and Greiga are pretty cool, they kinda limit Rockmans options.)Thats all I wanted to say(Yes, I like using Parenthesies)(spelled right?)
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Crimson Seiko [Dream] Chaser
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 1528 Location: WV
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Speaking of Toadman, the only thing that REALLY bugged me about Stream was that Toadman didn't make a single appearance. Now, I don't have some affinity with the little guy or anything, but he was the Babamania ending... yet never appeared in the series. I don't quite enjoy that kind of inconsistency... it's like false advertising. _________________
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Unknown Neo Cross Fusion!
Age: 40 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 2933 Location: Unknown
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah that is odd, I wonder why he didn't? |
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Guernsey Net Agent
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 200 Location: Inside my head
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe they thought Toad Man wouldn't be a good character for Stream but then again I'm only guessing. _________________ Guernsey Adams Pierre
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Crimson Seiko [Dream] Chaser
Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 1528 Location: WV
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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There's a lot of evidence that indicates that all 51 episodes of Stream may not have been written when it started, such as why we got Gyro Soul but no other EXE5 souls. I imagine they originally intended on Higure and Kero having some relevence in the series, but changed their minds at some point... _________________
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Unknown Neo Cross Fusion!
Age: 40 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 2933 Location: Unknown
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Atleast maylu got some importance then just lan's best (girl) friend.
Yuriko was just an interesting addition. |
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Mugen.exe The Original Amish Technogeek!
Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 911 Location: Behind you, readying a Poison Jab.
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah. And Toadman should make more appearances. I really do think Stream wasn't complete when they started it. That would explain them stalling for so long with CF spam. They had no plot line plan for the future. Stream really seemed like two seasons in one in that aspect. 1st part, find a plot, second part, stop the bad guy who gave us cool stuff!! _________________
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