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X-shunin Net Savior
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: Beast+26 Talkback (Tax.. eh spoiler included) |
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Wowza O_o How can they put in so much story into just 9:39 minutes?!
And the animation was so smooth... well since this is my first talkback it´s only that short....
And it was nice to see [spoil:fab1d713da]Trill[/spoil:fab1d713da] in Beast+ drawing style~. So cute~ _________________
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XHunter17 DS Rockman.Exe
Age: 36 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 1650 Location: The Internet @.@
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I have to say [spoil:7b3b58c188]If thire was one bad guy who did the best job at talking over the world and quote "pwning" everyone.. I would have to say that it was cache[/spoil:7b3b58c188]
that has to be one of the best EXE endings I've seen so far. ^.^ _________________
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Viewtiful Starman Puzzle Game Addict
Age: 37 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 708
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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I dunno... [spoil:94ad69f78e]I think Duo did a bit of a better job. He had the world destroyed for a good chunk of the episode, and ended up leaving on his own terms pretty much instead of getting killed.[/spoil:94ad69f78e] <-- Stream Ending Spoiler
So... I kinda liked the episode, but this is another spot where it really could have used a longer time slot. If the last three or four episodes ran for normal length, things could probably have made a lot more sense and have a bit more of a conclusion. |
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Rock Miyabi Knifey/Spooney!
Age: 43 Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 870 Location: The Land of 10,000 Lakes
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Well, first off apologies from me for screwing up in Mageman's thread about the end, saying the screencaps I had were from 25, when they really were from 26. Swear I had them on a Wednesday, which would have been before 26 aired...
Partially because of that, I was disappointed with the finale. Not because of the art, that was pretty fantastic yet again by (I believe Seiko said Shingo Adachi). Not because of Cache powering up like the Lil' Frieza he is and changing the Earth to data yet again, that was pretty cool. The action was great and I really want to understand more precisely what Cache's deal was. Did Majin Cache eat the Rockman character Golden Graham's and absorb their powers to increase his own? Why did it take Netto that long to turn into golden data? And how exactly did Trill just show up and break free? Maybe because the cameos felt forced/too short, the ending felt crammed in, I dunno, it just didn't feel like a true finale. Nothing wrong with still leaving it open for more episodes, like that'll happen. I guess I was expecting more of a tribute to the series as a whole at the end, instead of a generic we've seen this at the end of the past 3 seasons kind of end. Like X-shunin said, guess there's not much else you could cram into 9:39. But not being full length, at least not having the farewell credits, made it disappointing.
Farwell, EXE the series. We hardly knew ye. But a fun ride it was. T_T _________________ Avatar art thanks to toberboobap, animated gif thanks to Dr. Wily II
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bunnyfoofoo Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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I can't explain how disappointed I am with how it ended. Ten minutes really is not enough time to cram in all that plot. The artwork was pretty and all, yes, but I would have much rather preferred a good, solid ending. It was way too rushed, too abrupt. This is the finale of the EXE series, after all- it should have been much better. |
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X-shunin Net Savior
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 154 Location: Somewhere lost in the depths of the Cyberworld...
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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I hope they will make it better in Ryusei >_>
They should´ve done a full length... I wonder who watches Ape Escape...xD _________________
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XHunter17 DS Rockman.Exe
Age: 36 Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 1650 Location: The Internet @.@
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X-shunin Net Savior
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Well I kinda was "forced" to watch 2 episodes because there were included in a few the Beast + raws from Saito Raws. Well the Cellshading style is kinda cute but I don´t get the story....xD _________________
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Mageman
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 36
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Whelp, I'm disappointed. Mainly because it didn't really feel like the final episode of the entire series. I mean, they used the generic "everything's fine at the end of the episode" music. Also, with a title like "Netto Plus Rockman", I was really expecting Saito, or at least for Rockman to stay in the real world permanently. I'm also pretty bummed that Trill returned, but there wasn't a peep from Forte. Oh well...
On the other hand, Cache was pretty close to Duo on the power scale. He suddenly shows up one day and destroys the world with barely anyone noticing. I guess Duo could have done that if he wanted to, though. |
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Zourii
Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 33
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Man Cashu was a wuss..... Not really a developed villain either... He can somehow turn everyone to data, but gets owned in less then five minutes? Maybe, turning everyone to data made him weak. No epilogue? I was really hoping for one. This was not really much of anything really, and not the best way to end a series. |
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Shakai Shounen yo shinwa ni nare
Age: 34 Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 1309 Location: Scramble Crossing, Shibuya
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:27 am Post subject: |
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....Phantom Enzan with a Blues Saber=Win. XD
It's official. Jammingman is Cache's Beeyatch. I personally liked this finale...but it felt needing.
For example, [Exe6 spoilers][spoil:dcce1f1a5c]No mention of "Rockman.EXE End[/spoil:dcce1f1a5c]
Also, no explanation of how Trill even got there. Maybe he was Cache Data. Maybe he was the actual Beyondard version who slipped through a convenient Plot device-y Fossa Ambience. I dunno.
But I did like the little insertion of Barrel/Colonel's theme. And a reuse of a sound from the movie! (Cookie points if you guess which sound it is)
But I digress. Not even a cameo of Forte. We weep.
But jeezis. The Phantom...ummm people...Gawd. They looked so freaky. I'm gonna have nightmares about phantom people attacking me now T_T _________________ The time is come. Bid farewell to your bloodstained past.
Forsake the darkness you once embraced, or the light will find no hold.
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Dougurasu Net Agent
Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 242
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Right also gonna ramble about this episode (It's THE final one ever... give me a break I just have to)
Cache is growing and Netto dematerialised (wtf?) and Jammingman is deleted for the second time. Now the whole world seems to be dematerialising, which is cool cause we get to see a lot of characters we haven't in some time. Especially doctor Wily was amusing to see XD
Netto in the undernet... weeeiiird... and everyone being Han Solo'd (I mean... cast in gold) was kinda... well... shocking XD a bit of course. And then Blues, Searchman and Rockman too! The lonely PET scene was really cool XD It added to the hopelessness of the whole situation. I think this has to be the dire-est of positions Netto and Rockman have EVER been in, don't you agree? Nobody to help them, no where they can go, nothing they can do. Usually there's always some small hope. Just one hint of what can happen. Usually it's just Rockman being absent from the battle field and suddenly returning or something like that. So no one who can help them.
Except for Trill! ^_^ NO idea where he came from, but I liked to see him and somehow it even seemed a bit logical Oo He's all powerful... tho they probably should've included to say that for example Beyondard was also dematerialising somehow (they could've included Barrel and all the other guys O__o;; what a missed opportunity). Oh well Trill to save the day!
And then Colonel's theme started, YAY! Haven't heard that one in a long time XD Too bad the climax of the theme was a bit late... would've been cooler if that part started when we saw Netto. And Dream Sword! My favourite Program Advanced XD Too bad they didn't include the sequence of Slot-Ins, but whatever. And indeed Blues with a sword is BRILLIANT!!! Loved that part XD
Also... I was expecting... you know... a background music theme which would be extremely happy... based on the opening and just plain cool. But instead we got no music at all... Oh well, can't have it all, maybe it's better this way. And either Dream Sword or Charged Shot should've been the final blow :p So they did that right in my book.
Rockman and Netto hugging was a nice touch :p Wonder how Rockman could stay substantiated... no actually... I don't. Nice ending... but the sudden annoying tune of Ape Attack or whatever it's called was NOT nice >__> they could've at least said... "and the story continues..." or... "the end" or... "fin" or "c'est la vie" or "snakes on a plane"... oh well.
THE GOOD:
A lot actually, I didn't mind AT ALL that Trill suddenly appeared. Actually just the whole story, and the stuff I already said I liked.
THE BAD:
The ending was just too damn fast and indeed it would've been nice to have at least one more episode to show everyone celebrating or something. And no end credits... but then again... I really don't like Beast's ending song, so maybe it was a good thing :p
WHAT I MISSED:
Dingo!!! Where the hell was he?!!! He was no where to be found! And they missed a lot of other characters! Where was Pride? And it was too bad we couldn't see all their Navis. And Forte of course, but I have no idea how they would EVER get him in here without letting it feel out of place Oo
But all in all... I think this was a worthy end to Beast+. Although on the whole run of EXE... they shouldn't have ended with a season of virtually only fillers... Well... too bad I guess... at least they gave us a brilliant story as an ending. _________________
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Dougurasu Net Agent
Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 242
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Yes, double post I know, but I just realised that since we also have Ape Escape we have the preview for next episode!! And that's for Ryuusei no Rockman! :p And guess what! [spoil:7b967a8a88]Mettool virusses!!! At least... that's what it looked like. And I know Mettool's are probably in all carnations of Rockman/Megaman... but still!! It looked like a virus! (which it probably still is... oh blast just look at the damned preview XD)[/spoil:7b967a8a88] _________________
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X-shunin Net Savior
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Aww I don´t have the preview xD Since I dodn´t get the raw from Saito raws =( _________________
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Dougurasu Net Agent
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Oh, don't worry! Someone posted it as a standalone moviefile in the Raws forum post! :p You can direct download it there ^_^ _________________
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Anime Master ZERO Have you hugged your Shun today?
Age: 39 Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 1614 Location: A Place
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Quite frankly, I found this finale to be rather disappointing. Not quite as disappointing as Stream, but still disappointing.
At least this episode explains Jammingman's revival. While Dr. Regal had his army of silver liquid warriors, Cache has an army of eternally respawning Jammingmen.
And although it was good to see him again, where the hell did Trill come from? Unless Cache took over Beyondard as well, I don't see how he could have suddenly appeared. I can understand bringing him in as a cameo from Beast, but they could have brought him in in a better way.
And while there was a final battle against Cache, I didn't feel the excitement. Where was the epic battle? I demand an epic battle! _________________
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Shakai Shounen yo shinwa ni nare
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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AMZ, you've gotten me thinking. What if Trill really wasn't there? What if he was a flashback, causing Netto and Rockman to realize their true potential and break out of the golden grahams of doom? _________________ The time is come. Bid farewell to your bloodstained past.
Forsake the darkness you once embraced, or the light will find no hold.
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Anime Master ZERO Have you hugged your Shun today?
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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After making his entrance as a shiny golden slab of carbonite? _________________
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rockzero.exe Net Savior
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 109 Location: Endiness
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Hmm. I wonder where Dingo and Tomahawkman are in all this? Of all the characters this last episode has shown, why did it exclude them?
Anyway, the finale should have been better than this. Cache barely put up a fight or did much of anything. What a sad way to end the Rockman.EXE series. I'm disappointed it ended now because a few navis from the newest Rockman.EXE game won't appear at all. |
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Ryouko Kitties Love Bunnies
Age: 42 Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 2085 Location: Sharo
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: |
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All Netto said was "Cache's data of Trill...", so who knows what to make of that. But Trill mentioned the Zoanoroids, and obviously knew Netto and Rockman, so perhaps Cache was powerful enough to pull data from both Netto's world as well as Beyondard. _________________ "Cats are interesting. They're kind of like girls. When they come talk to you, it's great. When you go talk to them, it doesn't go so well." - Miyamoto
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