Navi Customizer or PowerUPs?

Hubstyle Master · Net Savior Age: 32 Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 175

I pesonally think that PowerUPS are better because it's easier to increase the attacks, charge, and speed of your buster, and the Navi Customizer only had a couple worthwhile abilities, like Undersht (It's better than waiting for the battlechip to come up.)

And the HP=100-500's were good on the Navi Customizer were okay (especially with the modtools, but they had to get rid of that!)

What do you think is better?

**PlaguedOne** · Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject:

The Navi Customizer is significantly flexible. The power up system, well.... isn't. At all. Each of the stats maxes out at 5, so once you collect them all, every player is the same. The customizer lets people do more than just boost their buster stats.
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Hubstyle Master · Net Savior Age: 32 Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 175

Yeah, but it's easier to increase your attack power with the PowerUPS. I like the Navi Customizer, but some of the abilities you can do without. I agree with you that when you max out all of the PowerUPS, every player is the same and every player is the same, but you can be a whole lot more powerful with the PowerUP system.

And also, Don't you just hate it when you have to go back and adjust your Navi Customizer every single time you want to pass on a small platform (like with Press) or when you find a program that gives you a bunch of bugs no matter what you do? The Navi Cust. has limited abilities, and you can be stronger with the PowerUPS.

Shakai · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:01 am Post subject:

Untrue. Bugstop fixes most of your angsts.
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Midnight · Last edited by Midnight on Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:30 am; edited 2 times in total

Sai-kun · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:23 am Post subject:

I'm pretty sure most victories rely upon the pwnage of the enemy via chip folder. Thus, think of a situation like this:

You, with PowerUPs, max'D out on everything.

Me, with that Part that gives you 10 chips in the custom window.

Say we both have 500 health.

Now obviously, this part depends on who's folder is better, but assume mine is. :)

You are promptly dead, trying to shoot me with your pea shooter :( And I don't like peas!

...I just realized that's a really bad example...but...I think you get the point.

SUmmary: Since when does a pea shooter take down enemies like Forte and Nebula Grey?

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NetOperator Wibby · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject:

Seruko · Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 34 Location: France

NaviCust at 100%

PowerUps are simple, but lets only 3 possibilities, it's quite boring, just upgrades the buster, with the NaviCust, it's near unlimited, multiple combos, restrictions, a great number of parts, it upgrades buster, movement, terrain, folder characteristics etc ... It's really strategic and can help building a strategy parallel to the Folder (Even with the multiples broken combos)

HeatShadow · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject:

I honestly wish we could use both. The NaviCust was fun for tinkering around with your various abilities, but there were many times when I wished I didn't have to leave my Speed at one from beginning to end, or having to completely neglect my buster in favor of more technical abilities. Maybe limiting PowerUps to level 3, or making the NaviCust a bit bigger to accomidate a few extra small stat boosts, but...eh, I don't know.

Another thing that always got me steaming was the fact that you had to use so many NaviCust parts to upgrade your Style's charged shot in BN3. Getting more NaviCust parts was no real incentive to upgrade your Style, especially since your charged shot stayed exactly the same.

The NaviCust, however, is entirely appropriate for player vs player Netbattles. If Capcom ever makes a BN MMORPG (big if, I know) what abilities and enhancements players decide to put in their NaviCust would be a way for them to distinguish themselves from other battlers.
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Hubstyle Master · Net Savior Age: 32 Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 175

Midnight · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject:

SuperArmor. Without it you flinch, and that can be deadly at the wrong time. It could very well cancel an entire strategy (one that depends on a sole chip or PA to win. Even if it doesn't get that bad, it can and will likely counter chips, and that is a nuisance at best, and a disaster at worst. If playing against a human, SuperArmor is something I'd put at priority.

And the buster is well-nigh useless in many games. Maybe not in EXE3, as HeatGround could seriously mess up an opponent's strategy, but for the other games, it's hardly game-shifting. Other excpetions include RollSoul in EXE4 and ToadSoul in EXE5, but the rest are not very nice. I wouldn't want a single 50 damage shot anyway. Who has the time to charge in an actual PvP matchup--the action moves along far too quickly.
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Shakai · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject:

@ the whole buster thing.

Elec Guts in BN3 is godly if you have the maxed out buster and SaitoBatch.

You can deal a total of 120 damage in one maneuver! (Stun with Elec Ring for 20 dmg, machine gun for 100 dmg)

But that's not quite possible with Power ups only.

Well wait...yes it is...but it's easier in BN3. Just as well, the Saito Batch thing allows you to float and stuff. You can't do that in Guts Style in BN2.
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Hubstyle Master · Net Savior Age: 32 Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 175

You've got a point Midnight. The SuperArmor is an okay program, but in BN3, if you have the wrong style, you can't use it unless you find the correct Modcode for it. And they could have just kept the GutsStyle Ability from BN2 where they don't ever flinch, and since I usually play with Hubstyle on BN2, it didn't really matter. But rthe styles you get are completely random, so the programs you can use depend on what style you have. BN4-6 has different rules, but some of the programs like BugStop are hard to find (I just Gamesharked my game, so thats how I got that program). And I like a different variety of programs, but I can't fit them all in there.

Fragman.EXE · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject:

Navicust. Bugstop fixes everything, you can abuse certain bugs, along with a lot of abilities, like SuperArmour, Custom+, HP+, etc. Not only that, you can use it to set certain conditions for Netbattles.

**PlaguedOne** · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:20 am Post subject:

Nenji · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:27 am Post subject:

Customiser is definately far superior. It allows players who like to focus around the Buster to do so, while allowing those who want to focus around chips and support to also do that as well. It also gives you many more useful abilities than just Armour and PowerUPs did.

There's a reason why PowerUPs were discontinued in favour of the Customiser.
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Phantomman.EXE · Net Savior Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 106

Quite. I was a tad sore about the loss of PowerUps, but I too, prefer the Navicust. Remember all those one-shot chips with fun little effects? With the Navicust, some of those chips have come back to us... in re-usable form! :D :cough:Kawarimimagic:cough: AND at (basically) any time we want! And on another note, with enough copies of a program, the Navicust can allow you to make an aspect of your buster more powerful than you could have with PowerUps alone. Then again, I really just used my buster when I ran out of chips and/or was waiting for the custom screen to come up, or just to polish an enemy/player off because they had a ridiculously low amount of HP left

NetOperator Wibby · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject:

**PlaguedOne** · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject:

The Navi Customizer already lets you increase your buster's stats... so uh... yeah.
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Midnight · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:45 am Post subject:

I think they were referring to the wish that they want both the buster ups and the added benefits of the NC, but seriously, the NC alone and the elimination of the PowerUP system forces players into far deeper strategic decisions that make each player truly unique.
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