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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Cross...but not Fusion Reply with quote

Does it bug anyone the way they do Cross Fusion? Their not really Fusing so much as gaining the power of a net Navi...the net navi does enter their body but has little to no control over it.

I guess you could say its like cosplay with a little extra kick. Not that I dont like this way of CF at all.

This is opposed to DNA Digivolution incase you were wondering.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

umm combining with somthing is called fusing anyways.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's called cross fusion because it sounds cool, and if it sells, do it, it's the philosophy of crappy anime shows.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, who knew the Japanese could misuse an English word. That's certainly never happened before.

No use arguing over semantics at this point. Cross Fusion may be neither Cross nor Fusion, but that's what it's called.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it gives the net ops more purpose. Before all they did was send chips, but now they have a larger purpose. You may hate me for that comment. But perhaps it would have been better if they had done something like spirit unity from shaman king where they talk and fight as though they are one being, with the small exception of it being mega's body rather than Lan's or a fused one.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really think the name is misleading at all, I mean, Rockman and Netto fuse into one, and we end up with a cross between both of them... Cross Fusion.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kupo.EXE wrote:
I think it gives the net ops more purpose. Before all they did was send chips, but now they have a larger purpose. You may hate me for that comment. But perhaps it would have been better if they had done something like spirit unity from shaman king where they talk and fight as though they are one being, with the small exception of it being mega's body rather than Lan's or a fused one.


I see what your saying. I do like how they give the op more purpose.


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Wow, who knew the Japanese could misuse an English word. That's certainly never happened before.

No use arguing over semantics at this point. Cross Fusion may be neither Cross nor Fusion, but that's what it's called.


Use of the word is not the issue. I only named the topic like that to be creative-its not directly what Im whining about. Im just saying maybe it would be cooler if they fused more thouraly (man i cant spell) as in conciousness becoming one, with a change in physical appearance and voice aswell..
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, you should have actually gone with semantics then, because people have been complaining about how CF just turns a navi into a fancy costume for ages. It's a really old topic.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's wanting something more like the fusions from Digimon Tamer...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Im thinking more like DNA digivolving. Combined conciousness's.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... I thought that's what I meant. Then what is fusion in Tamers?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rock and Netto can talk to each other while in Cross Fusion you know. They can all talk to their navis while in Cross Fusion, is that what you mean?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he means more along the lines of how the manga treats FullSynchro... for that moment, Netto and Rockman become the same person. Netto's consciousness merges with Rockman's in the cyber world and the two become the same person... literally. If Rockman gets hurt, Netto does too. With Cross Fusion, it's more along the lines of Netto turns into Rockman, but they don't become the same person... Rockman still chills in the PET and stuff. Netto is simply given Rockman's powers.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is Rockman exactly during Cross Fusion? I thought he was just, with Netto physically and mentally, but not being one with him, more like, helping him. I know he isn't inside the PET when Cross Fusion happens, because there is no PET, and in episode 3 of Axess, he's transmitted somewhere right before it starts. I just assumed that he is somehow within Netto during it, not exactly being the same person, but helping him by giving Netto his strength, and his knowledge about how to use battle chips and whatnot, while Netto himself controls the way they fight, like where to move to, and what chips to use.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Rockman is still in the PET, and the PET does still exist during Cross Fusion. The PET becomes the crest on Netto's chest, and if the crest is broken, the PET is damaged.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crimson Seiko wrote:
... I thought that's what I meant. Then what is fusion in Tamers?


I thought you meant Frontier, my bad.

They didn't seem quite to merged in Tamers to me...but I only saw it one time for like 15 seconds.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Tamers, their bodies merged, but their consciousnesses were separated, though they acted as one most of the time. There are instances where only the kid or only the digimon would speak.

In Frontier, the kids became the digimon. No other consciousnesses but their own, except maybe they get the instincts of the digimon (which is why it was hard to control the beast spirits).

I believe Crossfusion is something like in Tamers, though Rock has no control of the body. He provides knowledge instead, as someone said. He and Netto have separate consciousnesses.

That's only my opinion, though.
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