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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:20 am    Post subject: Does Navi gets old? o _ o"" Reply with quote

okay....I know it's a very very stupid question. Does anyone ever thought if Netto would still be carrying old kiddo rock in his pet as seen as today after 10 years? Will iceman + aquaman remain as kiddo forever?
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Basically, does a navi(human genetic ones) grow with the operator...showing changes in appearance. Will they get too old to function properly one day? [spoil:b374328d9d]Exe 4 Topman scenario[/spoil:b374328d9d]
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not quite sure what the answer to that is, because, for example Blues and Colonel don't age, but Meddy does. [spoil:b968c73884](Unless Colonel time-travels)[/spoil:b968c73884]
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, since in RockmanExe Stream, we learn that Colonel hasnt aged in 20-30 years, so navi's dont age.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Navis probably do not age since they are programming. However, I guess the operator can reformat them to look older.

Honestly I see no use for a retirement home for elderly navis who cannot do much but talk about the old days of net battling....
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe yes, because Topman probably has aged. If he didn't, then it'd be weird for a 12 year-old to have an "elderly" navi.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TopMan was made into an Elder Navi so that he could interact better with Tensuke.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meddy could have been customized by Jasmine.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Metal Shark Player wrote:
Navis probably do not age since they are programming. However, I guess the operator can reformat them to look older.

Honestly I see no use for a retirement home for elderly navis who cannot do much but talk about the old days of net battling....

No but that is an...interestingly amusing idea/mental image, though, if you ask me Laughing

In any case, I agree with the reformating comment, especially since some navis appear "older" than others, besides the ones already mentioned.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think topman is one of those examples of getting rusty. His operator wouldn't program him that old otherwise why did he complain about Topman being "broken"?

We didn't get to see chibi Blues with chibi Enzan in Axess like chibi Medi with chibi Jasmine in stream. There are a lot of awful mistakes in that episode anyway such as the advance Pet -_-;
Navis like Blues and Glyde has to be other than their operators anyway because they're programmed to train their operator. (NetBattle + IPC for enzan, Manners for Yaito) What can the operators do when they're older tan their navi...?)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaito always bosses glyde around, it's more like a buttler...


Back to the topic anyway, since Navis are programs the can break down (what are bugs after all? didn't you runned a scandisk ever?) so they data decay, but the good drefrag, debug and such are the fountain of jouth for them. Visually speaking, they could be reprogrammed or even reprogram themselves a little.

Again, don't mind my programmer gimmics...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Navis obviously don't have to age since they're not biological, the simplest explanation for te appearance of age in navis is simply customization.

In the Game forum right now is a thread discussing how the DNA research of Yuichiro Hikari has applied to the navi's programming. This doesn't apply to the anime, but basically it's possible the structure of a navi's programming is based on DNA, and thus navis could have many physical processes similar to humans, even aging. Of course it would still be unneccessary and probably not present in many navis. Scientists would probably only give certain advanced navis these biological processes to make them more life-like.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technically, the only way Navis could become 'older' is through obselesence to newer models.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hydro.exe wrote:
I think topman is one of those examples of getting rusty. His operator wouldn't program him that old otherwise why did he complain about Topman being "broken"?

We didn't get to see chibi Blues with chibi Enzan in Axess like chibi Medi with chibi Jasmine in stream. There are a lot of awful mistakes in that episode anyway such as the advance Pet -_-;
Navis like Blues and Glyde has to be other than their operators anyway because they're programmed to train their operator. (NetBattle + IPC for enzan, Manners for Yaito) What can the operators do when they're older tan their navi...?)


Which episode was that?I think they cant age and only change appearences to what their netop desires,plus in the game Tesuke says he knows very little about navis and Topman looks like that cuz hhis netop probably had trouble costumizing him. :grr:
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meddi didn't age, she simply had a different early appearance. -mostly in questions of her hair- which does make her look younger but doesn't mean she actually 'aged'.

I presume they can turn 'wiser' though existing and interacting with other navis and their operators for so long, but appearance that shows aging it's different. They can grow in personality from a childlike train of thought to a much more mature personality but as for changing appearance is just a question of customization.

Now why would Topman look so old? It's been discussed before that net navis are personalized to appeal their operators and match their personalities. Why would Yaito want to have a net navi that looks at least 10 years older then her friends' navis and that is a male instead of a girl? Perhaps because she wanted a net navi that would display the traits of a 'gentleman' while at the same time being completely submissive to her as any of her buttlers and maids.

Why would Topman be of older appearance? Tensuke created Topman from scratch on his own, reason why he was always broken was Tensuke's knowledge of net navis was limited and like when you make a program from scratch with the minimum knowledge chances are it's gonna be bugged in its early incarnations. Tensuke probably made Topman look so old because he wanted his navi to show 'old people' could be good at net battling in these modern ages too. He wanted to prove to his grandson that he could be a good battler and that Tops -the toys he hand made- were still fun.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i decide of all what you're saying, navis won't age alone, but they can be programmed for it.

anyway, i thought about something else. [spoil:4bb6edde7a]Rockman is Netto-kun's brother[/spoil:4bb6edde7a], since it's his data, may it still be biological, and Rockman may grow together with Netto.. we have to see the past eps [if there's any, i didn't seen all of the eps..] and guess just by that. if there's no past eps, i guess my theory can be right. also, i don't say it's true. i may be wrong.

Edit: Spoiler has added. sorry if someone has seen it already.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RikkusRukkus wrote:
I'm not quite sure what the answer to that is, because, for example Blues and Colonel don't age, but Meddy does. [spoil:e33c542312](Unless Colonel time-travels)[/spoil:e33c542312]

When did medi age (ie when did she look younger) I don't remember that Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Episode 13 Jasmine remembers when she first received Medi:



As you can see Meddi didn't age she just had her hair 'combed up' in a more formal, Nurse like style and her uniform was changed. Pretty much just an act of customization.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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anyway, i thought about something else. [spoil:3252037868]Rockman is Netto-kun's [/spoil:3252037868]brother, since it's his data, may it still be biological, and Rockman may grow together with Netto.. we have to see the past eps [if there's any, i didn't seen all of the eps..] and guess just by that. if there's no past eps, i guess my theory can be right. also, i don't say it's true. i may be wrong.

Maybe in the games but not in the Anime, mainly because there is no Hub In .EXE
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Navis dont have age, they r programs. Im wonder where r they go when they'r Netops are gone.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About the whole ordeal with netops passing away, there's Colonel who is an example of that. Barrel's recent passing has made him an independent navi, what is his new mission? Who knows.
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