Don't you get dissapointed on how all the villians...

maniac_lonestar · Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 26

Don't you get dissapointed on how all the villians talk, look, and act in this game?

I mean think about it, I remember playing BN3 when Chaud's father was kidnapped. So then either Protoman/Chaud and Megaman/Lan (Sorry for english names) had to beat the (Desertman?) navi. Then the criminal simply let the hostage go?

(Correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't played BN3 in a long time)

Anyways why do we have to netbattle in order for that guy not kill his hostage?

I mean the story is kinda good and yet silly and cheesy at the same time...this applies to Yugioh and Pokemon as well...

Slifer. EXE · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:12 am Post subject:

He probably wanted to fight so he could capture Rockman, maybe.
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Haly K · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:32 am Post subject:

For all we know, the head of the evil group ( WWW, Team Rocket, etc.) could have tricked its members into joining and continued tricking them to their advantage, or taken one of its member's family members/friend hostage and threaten to kill them if that certain member does not do what the boss wants. :/

The first one sounds more reasonable though. Wait, why do I even bother? ._. The game makers make the villians and other charaters act the way the makers want, not in a way that is reasonably. >_<

Wait, even I didn't get that last part... -_-;
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Crimson Seiko · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:59 am Post subject:

I haven't played BN3 in a while either... but villains have figured out that MegaMan and Lan are the reason their plans never work out, so their priorities are becoming to get rid of the two. The hostage situation could have simply been a trap to try and delete MegaMan. Though... just killing Lan would make more sense, but that doesn't guarantee someone else won't operate MegaMan later. Getting rid of MegaMan renders Lan powerless.
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Azureman.EXE · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:03 am Post subject:

Usually, villains join an organization like Team Rocket or the Rubberobo Gang in order to get quick cash and/or power.

In the case of the original W3, the members were so loyally dedicated to Wily, that he was almost a god to them(Hence Hinoken returning to Neo W3 after finding out that Wily was still alive.). In the case of the Neo W3, Wily tricked all the new members into joining by promising that their hearts' desires would be granted with the downfall of the Network Society. Very similar to the way that Gospel Shuryou manipulated Arashi in EXE 2...
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**Sketch** · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:04 am Post subject:

The second WWW was called New WWW, not Neo WWW. Neo WWW is Tesla's, let her have it. XD Josu told me it was New WWW when I was writing something for him a long time ago.
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Haly K · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:06 am Post subject:

Azureman.EXE: You meant the new WWW in BN 3 instead of the Neo-WWW, right? Or are there more differences between the two BN 5 versions than I thought? Confused

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Kaito The Ramen Bandit · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:25 pm Post subject:

Enzan Chaud · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:34 pm Post subject:

WWW:Wily's first Syndacite under his direct control(anime and game)
New WWW: Wily's second Syndacite under his direct control(BN3)
Neo WWW: Tesla's Syndacite (Rockman.EXE Stream Anime only)

There ya go, short and sweet >_>
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Nazne · Shukei - Hakuteiken Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1133

Kaito: Netto threw the PET to knock Sunayama out so Enzan could grab his useless old man and get the hell out of there. :P Why he had to Netbattle Desertman is beyond me, though. They were stuck in a little editing room-Sunayama was as good as behind bars already.

Actually, why Enzan had to give up Blues for his old man is beyond me as well. If that boy had been as good a martial artist as they make him out to be, he could have just kicked Sunayama's ass. Plus, Sunayama was stuck in aforementioned little room, without a gun in sight. Enzan could have just had Blues call the cops right then and there, and cowboy dude wouldn't have been able to do a thing. That was always one of the oddest scenarios, for me. :P

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Midnight · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:02 pm Post subject:

It certainly was clever, albeit kinda hard to swallow. Perhaps it was an excuse to use a little comic relief?

I'm surprised how gullible people can get, so that they are easily duped by people like Wily. I cannot bring myself to imagine that Wily is as charismatic as say, Hitler, who got his following through his oratories. It just goes to show you, I suppose, that people are desperate and will NEVER think things through.
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Pitchums · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:47 pm Post subject:

Maybe beating Desertman cut off Sunayama's contact with Dr.Wily so he could arrange for back up or anything, being stuck in that little room?

o_O

I never thought about it. I just kill what I have to kill and read everything in between....
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Flame Buster · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject:

Maybe it was to make the game interesting? I mean what's the fun if you don't get to beat someone up?
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Ultimately.. because it's a game, and you're supposed to win. I mean sure, you'd think all the enemy operators would carry a gun or something. It works a lot better than inviting the protagonist a chance to foil him. But alas, it's the same reason the evil mastermind leaves the scene while the secret agent is slowly being lowered into the shark tank. The good guy is supposed to win.

Kaito The Ramen Bandit · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:49 am Post subject:

I don't remember squat about Netto trying to knock out Sunayama.
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HeatShadow · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject:

It's while Chaud is doing the exchange with Sunayama; Lan runs in and beans the guy in the head with his PET. So either Sunayama has a really thin skull for that to be enough to stun him, or those PETs are alot heavier than they look.
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Midnight · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject:

You have to take into account two factors.

1. Lan had the element of surprise on his side.

2. Sunayama basically had his plan in the bag. He was just about to succeed. You also have to remember that he was very full of himself, so his impending victory basically blinded him from the outside world as he was in his own delusional realm.

You decide.
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Nazne · Shukei - Hakuteiken Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1133

Yes, I understand about Sunayama, but Enzan? The guy had his father tied to a chair, with no gun, no threat, and no escape route, and Enzan just walks up and hands over the PET? Either Sunayama had some sort of bazooka back there, or Enzan's not as intelligent as I thought. :P

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Crimson Seiko · Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:57 am Post subject:

Or maybe Enzan's father beats him at home and he wanted to get rid of him? =P
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